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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:06 PM Original message |
PETA Vice President responds to Michael Vick's "I would love to get another dog" remarks |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. PETA usually over-the-top, but I agree with them here. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. seems an organization so "dedicated" to changing minds and behavior |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Umm, he had kids around him when he was fighting dogs. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. well, if he was so evil and such a bad guy why didn't they get taken away? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. No, because as PETA, and most psychologists know, |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. was there a diagnosis? I'm really not familiar with all the details |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Let's see here, |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I don't want to be in the position of defending the guy |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. No, the proof lies in the fact that Vick beat, electrocuted, tortured and killed his animals |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Maybe they should have been? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. because we treat children as the property of the parents |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. "A fucking pet dog" - |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. "A fucking pet dog" |
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Dennis Donovan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
55. My dogs are not considered "pets" to me... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Same here. Ms. "fucking pet" is never going to understand that. nt |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I understand it just fine. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. The "authorities" did not remove his children because the man is a celebrity and multimillionaire - |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Gandhi also said something else: |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's just dumb |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. part of his sentence... |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. "I just think he likes dog fighting." |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I've never followed the case closely |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. The activities I've listed aren't "official" elements of dog fighting. |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Are there any 'official' aspects? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. 100% in agreement with PETA. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Huh? I think the US court system sees dogs as chattel |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. yes |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. No one truly believes that animals should have "equal legal standing." |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. um, |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Instead of asking me questions to which you already know the answer |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I'm looking at post 16 in this thread for an example of the type of thinking |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. How does that equate into giving animals "equal legal standing?" |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. OK, thanks for the conversation. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. People didn't usually kill and eat their slaves. |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Well that depends |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Expecting some people to understand the very notion |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. "I also find the idea of "owning" a sentient non-human creature as backwards-thinking" |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Animal Rescue... eom |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. clever |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Same thing. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. It does. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Ah, you've tapped into the difference between what's legally right and what's ethically right. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Do you agree with everything the US court system sees? eom |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. +1 n/t |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. Michael Vick says he has a hard time explaining to his little girls why they can't have a dog...... |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Always passing the buck. |
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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Yeah, that section kind of jumped out at me too |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I DO agree with this |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. Terms of his punishment: No dogs |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm glad Vick wants a dog. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. It should be easy to explain. "We can't have a dog because I tortured and murdered too many." |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Bingo. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. I agree completely. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
23. PETA might not want to open this can of worms. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
24. "to show people" |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. He and his handlers are upset that he's not raking in the |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. big k&r. nt |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. If he hadn't been caught they'd probably be attending dog fights with their loving daddy. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. +1 |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. have his little girls call me, i'll tell them why daddy can never have a dog |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. i can't/don't disagree, this time, with PETA ... i quite often agree with their |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
46. Wait.. he needs another victim.. I mean dog, bc "it's hard to explain to his girls |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. Didn't PETA try to hire him? |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. and of course, you aren't operating on knowledge |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
57. K & R |
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