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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:08 PM
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Please Remember Mr. President -- We Are a Nation, Not a Corporation
From President Obama’s State of the Union Speech:

We know what it takes to compete for the jobs and industries of our time. We need to out-innovate, out-educate and out-build the rest of the world. We have to make America the best place on Earth to do business…


I would submit that it’s more important to make America the best place on Earth to live.

Which is not always compatible with America being the best place on Earth to do business. In fact, judging from the behavior of many businesses, the “best places” to do business are countries that don’t bother with unions, minimum wage, worker safety regulations, environmental laws, or restrictions against child labor.

There are good things in this speech. Obama’s succinct call for religious tolerance, his observation that “American Muslims are a part of our American family,” was badly needed in our current climate. Yes, we need technological innovation, yes, we need to improve our educational system. (We can start by improving the working conditions for public school teachers and reducing our stultifying reliance on standardized tests.)

But its general tenor made me uneasy. As Rachel Maddow observed, it came across as a “prayer to the free market system.” The United States seems determined to follow the same path as the late, unlamented Soviet Union. We are staking everything, with starry-eyed religious fervor, on a single, narrowly defined economic system, even though it’s not working for large segments of the American people.

For the Soviets it was Communism. For us, it’s an unfettered capitalist system where human beings without money or the ability to make money are treated as meaningless. Note the increasing drumbeat from the right in which the poor and unemployed are reviled as lazy and immoral. Dehumanizing language describing those who don’t fit into the right-wing libertarian utopia has become increasingly common. They aren’t citizens, but “tax eaters,” and “unproductive consumers” (The more concise and punchy phrase, “useless eaters,” was taken about seven decades ago.)

We are not a business, the president is not the equivalent of a CEO, and citizens are not the equivalent of employees or customers. When Americans become too sick or elderly to work, they are not “laid off” or “retired” from being Americans. When Americans are too poor to pay taxes, they are not cut off from government services, as are consumers who cannot pay a business for its product. When Americans can no longer make enough money to satisfy the bottom line, their welfare is not suddenly beside the point, as the welfare of a fired or laid off employee is beside the point to a business. The plight of the poor remains the nation’s problem – and not merely because the poor are aesthetically unpleasing to the “customers” who have to edge around them on their way to buying something big and shiny.

Blogger Bob Cesca seems to believe that the speech was a calculated, “perfectly orchestrated” trap for the Republicans, a game of chicken in which the Republicans must “vote for the spending freeze they've been demanding, or vote against the spending freeze in order to preserve their earmarks and, thus, saving their asses from being voted out of office.” I hope that’s so, but even if it is, it makes me uneasy.

Given the madness that has seized the Republicans since Obama’s election, betting on their logic, their humanity or even their sense of self-preservation may be a losing proposition.

Crossposted from http://torchwood-us.com/">Thoughtcrimes


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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:11 PM
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1. More of all that bipartisanwoohaa bs...
it's getting as ripe as a pig poo lagoon.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:21 PM
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18. +1000
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:13 PM
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2. It's a value-added best-in-class market-facing synergistic mission-critical win-win paradigm shift
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:26 PM
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4. Honestly curious here: How do you propose that we deal with those who do not and will never be one
of us?

Even if, at some propitious point in the not too distant future, we turn out to, in fact, be the Real Majority, say, just hypothetically, representing 60% of Americans (would you prefer 70, 80%?) WHAT, exactly, do we do with that 40-20% who are fundamentally different? Even at, say, 10%, aren't they a significant minority? Say, we get our way, what, exactly and precisely do we do about them, not only to prevent violence with them, but also to protect our own fundamental changes in who/what we are?

Is it possible to put them, that 10-40% of fundamentalist-capitalism Americans, in a position that THEY have chosen, as the rest of us go forward and do our OWN thing?

Just askin' . . .

????
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:06 PM
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8. "one of us?"
Define "one of us," please. Who are these "fundamentally different" people you have in mind?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:21 PM
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9. I am not the one who is assuming that they are not "one of us". Whatever it is that calls
itself "the Left" around here seems to assume that, also that the President is at fault for seeking common ground and that there is NO possibility that anything good can come from processes that do not exclude those who are "the problem"/corporations.

Yes, I know that "the Left" would claim that I am wrong and that the truth is that THEY are the ones who are being excluded and said exclusion justifies their exclusion of what they call "the Right", but the fact is that it doesn't. Injustices against "the Left" CANNOT be corrected by perpetuating those very same injustices against different others.

No matter what our differences are, there are no ethical, no logical, grounds for demanding the oppression of others, even for those at a genuine disadvantage in a system, any call for the negation of others, negates our own justified demands for Economic Justice. This is the point of view supported by MLK and other authentic human/civil rights activists.
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:29 PM
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11. How about dealing with what I say here
and not with what you feel other people have said here?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:55 PM
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15. Uh, this is a community and that sort of stuff is said in this community - OFTEN.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 06:42 AM
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28. wow, defending potential injustices against the corporations!
obamaphilia taken to its logical extreme. the poor, poor, potentially oppressed corporations.

you're proving the point of the left, not to mention intellectually embarrassing yourself.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:25 PM
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10. My point is that there are fundamental differences and those differences are not grounds for exclusi
on, not from the Right, not from the Left. No matter how wronged anyone is, repeating that wrong on others negates your own claim to Justice.
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:29 PM
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12. Where, in the OP,
am I advocating "exclusion?"
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:50 PM
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14. My comment was in response to #2 above. If I mis-read sarcasm there, my apologies to that DU-er. A
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 02:53 PM by patrice
little clarification never hurt anyone.

Why so touchy? If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't, don't. Can't readers figure that our for themselves?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:42 PM
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19. My post would probably have been better directed in response to #1
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:00 AM
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26. Don't forget Vertical Intregration!
Kick ass post! :applause:
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:21 PM
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3. I don't think he knows the difference
Government is just a tool for allocating tax money to big business.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:49 PM
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6. +1
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:32 PM
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22. We used to call it "looting."
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:49 PM
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5. I'd rather not live in the New China
how about we end the wars and spend that money on making America a great place to live and work, not just a paradise for investors and corporate CEOs?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:59 PM
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7. I bet there's a super-majority of Americans who agree c/you. The problem is HOW to get them to agree
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 01:59 PM by patrice
on how that translation occurs.

The FACT is that certain non-elected persons, not all of whom are Americans, have their hands around our throats and starting out to create a movement by destroying MORE jobs just isn't going to bring about the kinds of change we say we want.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:31 PM
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13. We are a nation in which too many people don't have decent JOBS
:nuke:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:01 PM
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16. Kicked and recommended.


I would submit that it’s more important to make America the best place on Earth to live.

Which is not always compatible with America being the best place on Earth to do business.
In fact, judging from the behavior of many businesses, the “best places” to do business are countries that don’t bother with unions, minimum wage, worker safety regulations, environmental laws, or restrictions against child labor.




Thanks for the thread, Pamela Troy.:thumbsup:
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:16 PM
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17. I second that.
Great comment!
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:27 PM
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20. Outwit, Outplay, Outlast.
"We need to out-innovate, out-educate and out-build the rest of the world."

Sounds like the reality show Survivor. What happened to playing well with others - with friendly, fair, good-humoured competition being only a part of that?

(involves competing against oneself; sportsmanship)
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 08:16 PM
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24. It sounds more like he's blaming the American worker for not
having jobs. He's claiming that they have to work harder, pull up those bootstraps and get and out and compete!!

This is to deny that the jobs are being outsourced by his Corporate friends and the only way Americans could compete would be to work for $1.00 an hour.

It's total BS in what is becoming classic passive aggressive Obama, subtly attacking, planting the idea that the loss of jobs in the U.S. has nothing at all to do with the selling out of the country by Corporate America, whose corruption and betrayal of this country he just rewarded with two more years of insane tax cuts for which nothing is required of him.

It's all the worker's fault, he says. They're just not willing to go out and compete!!

Classic Republican BS blaming the victims for the crimes and corruption of Corporate America.

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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:09 AM
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27. Wait! I think he said that you first have to go to a good school -
maybe go into debt for multiple thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars - then you can compete for one of those $1.00 an hour jobs. Maybe even owe your soul to the company store, 'cause you know the company store needs all the money for themselves.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:29 PM
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21. It used to be a JOKE.... "What's good for General Motors is good for America."
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 04:30 PM by WinkyDink
He doesn't see himself as President; he sees himself as the Capo di CEO's.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:37 PM
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23. +1000!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 11:53 PM
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25. excellent point. Constitution is for "we the people" not corporations, not "citizens" either
just people.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 07:44 AM
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29. Excellent essay Pamela.
:applause:
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:07 AM
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30. recommend.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:19 AM
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31. Highly recommended
An absolutely fundamental point that has been lost if not willfully obscured by those who place a premium on profits instead of people.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 01:04 PM
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32. Yes. The fall of the USSR was their economic system and... Afghanistan. No parallels here.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:36 PM
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33. You know, I've always liked the phrase "useless eaters"
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 08:37 PM by saras
But I always thought it best described the management/owner class.

Come to think of it, maybe because that's because I worked someplace once that successfully implemented team management with developmentally disabled workers.

Just sayin'
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:48 AM
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34. You need to read about the pedigree of the term.
Not a good one.
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