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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:24 PM
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Gawker: Dennis Kucinich Sues Congressional Cafeteria Over Olive Pit
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"Congressman Dennis Kucinich bought a sandwich from the Longworth House Office Building cafeteria in April 2008, and bit into it only to find an unpitted olive that cracked a tooth. This month, he sued the cafeteria for selling "dangerous" sandwiches.

The complaint is pretty bare-boned: It claims that in April 2008, Kucinich purchased a "sandwich wrap" from the Longworth Cafeteria with an errant olive pit lurking within, and tragedy ensued.

Kucinich didn't detail the costs of the dental work, or precisely what "enjoyment" he lost. Or why he's filing a complaint three years after the olive incident. But he's suing Restaurant Associates and three other companies involved in running and supplying the cafeteria for $150,000, claiming negligence and breach of implied warranty. What an odd man."

http://gawker.com/5743909/dennis-kucinich-sues-congressional-cafeteria-over-olive-pit
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:27 PM
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1. Maybe he's raising money for his Democratic Primary fund...nt
Sid
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:28 PM
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Dennis, knock it off! Have them pay for your dental work and be done with it. It was a mistake. n
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:37 AM
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87. Yeah! Like who the hell cares! People have a right to make money! So WHAT if customers get injured!

Let's not have any frivolous lawsuits! Trial lawyers stink!

Suppose you're dumping toxic waste in the woods and people get sick. Is that YOUR fault? All you're trying to do is make money at other people's expense! Screw 'em! Corporate greed comes first!

You know what we need? Welfare for the rich! Did you ever consider THEIR feelings? Did you ever consider what the RICH were going through? It's not EASY screwing people so you can trickle on them! But somebody has to do it because greed is essential to prosperity! The Republicans said so!



Take landlords for instance. Say you're a landlord. So you go around to your tenants to see if they're eating chicken or potatoes.
"Fenwick? Is that chicken I smell coming from your apartment? That's MY money you're spending! If you can afford chicken you're due for a rent hike! Stick to potatoes or I'll raise your rent!"

And take doctors. The Mayo clinic just came out with a study saying that 1 in 16 surgeons in America in the last year alone contemplated suicide due to burnout and errors they had made.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70H7N520110119

If the doctors themselves think they are making mistakes in our assembly line medical industry, why shouldn't the people they victimized ALSO have a case? I'll tell you why! Because greed is good! How are you going to make any money unless you take it away from somebody!? Do you know why rich people who rip everybody off are not the same as bank robbers? Because they wear expensive suits! Screwing people is a cost of doing business! So tell Kucinich to mind his beeswax and become a good Republican!

Kucinich?

Phooey.





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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 04:26 PM
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117. For the love of God, this is an olive pit, not toxic waste, not an "act" that was
blatantly ignoring safety protocol. It was a fucking accident. It could happen in your own home! Like getting shells in your scrambled eggs. What if the poor shmo who was in charge of making the sandwiches gets fired? One olive pit out of how many?

Maybe I'm not understanding the intent of your post, but I stand by my opinion that this is overblown and really, pretty unfair if they paid for his dental care.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:28 PM
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2. At the risk of breaking my own tooth...
:popcorn: & I'll have a Diet Coke, thanks.

Come sit by me on the sofa--you can even wear your jammies and bunny slippers!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:01 PM
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7. Save some for me!!
:popcorn:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:31 PM
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3. Looks like private interests run the Congressional cafeteria ... then I'm with Kucinich!!
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:31 PM
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4. Olive Pit being the official mid-fare Italian restaurant chain of choice for Congress.
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 02:33 PM by Tommy_Carcetti
Sorry, couldn't resist!
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Tripod Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:14 AM
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83. Now that's funny :)
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:48 PM
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5. What the hell?
If true, Kucinich is kind of an idiot.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:51 PM
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6. Scurrilous!
But funny.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:22 PM
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79. ...
:D
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:02 PM
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8. This is the hero of DU, kids.
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 03:02 PM by Codeine
Ai yai yai.

(Assuming, of course, that this isn't complete bunkum.)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:16 PM
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14. LA Times (not a blog, either) has it now:
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
21. the thing about nuts, whether on the right -- or the left -- is that sooner or later
they do reveal the full extent of their nuttiness. I am sure DK will still have fans at DU however. He, Chavez, and Cynthia McKinney can do no wrong, as far as some here are concerned.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Hell, there was a Mugabe fanclub here for a while.
They've grown quiet and don't like to be reminded of their past support for him, of course.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. That's a good one too.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. There was even a hint of sympathy for 'Baby Doc' Duvalier for a moment last week.
Surprisingly, it sidn't surprise me a bit.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:48 PM
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30. personal foibles are not the same as public policies
However much I disagree with this lawsuit, it does not change the fact the Kucinich talks in favor of progressive policies. Nor does it change the fact that he lead the Congressional Democrats into voting against the Iraq war. This lawsuit does not discredit the other things he says, nor the stands he takes or the battles he wages.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. He does not do "policies" -- he just makes pronouncements.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:03 PM
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9. I consider myself a supporter of Dennis Kucinich, but this was THREE YEARS AGO!
Let it go, Dennis...
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:08 PM
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10. $150k could be a drop in the bucket when you consider court costs, lawyers, etc for suing 3 companie

Not to mention the costs of his dental care. Does congress have a dental plan?

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Of course Federal employees have a dental plan.
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 03:14 PM by blondeatlast
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. 'Lisa Needs Braces!'
:P
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:16 PM
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13. Of course it has a top notch dental plan.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:31 PM
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19. He cracked a tooth.
Even under my crappy plan that's all of $350 for a crowning procedure. Fifteen minutes to shave down the tooth, another fifteen to fit the temporary. Two weeks later it's about ten minutes to shove the permanent on and fit it.

He's a nut.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:49 PM
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32. Damn, what a bunch of hypocrites here..
Always bitching about Dems asking for what they want, then settling for way less. Now here we have a Dem asking for for wayyyy more, probably just hoping to get what he wants, and people are up in arms! :-)

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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #32
60. DK is a fighter!! Let this set an example for how to deal with the GOOP.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 01:00 AM
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81. See, that's how to frame it..
He's giving what they have been asking for, now they are clutching their pearls and looking for a fainting couch..

Kinda reminds me of this:



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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #32
111. No shit. The only rational thought here.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #111
116. Some days it's like herding bipolar cats around here, ain't it?
:hi:

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #116
121. LOL!
:hi:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #9
59. Ummm...if the dental surgeries are not over.........
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:17 PM
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15. gee, dennis, thanks for becoming the repukes' poster boy for tort reform. n/t
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lise Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #15
47. LOL!!
ain't that the truth!

they'd be stupid to not pick this up and run with it.

It's getting easier and easier to become disillusiones with these reps. Pretty un-Statesman-like behavior there, Dennis.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:23 PM
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16. Maybe the UFOs beamed the olive pit into the sandwich

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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:25 PM
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17. THE TOOTH IS OUT THERE!!!!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:31 PM
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18. ...
:spray:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. For the win, ladies and gentlemen. nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. That's just the best.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #17
43. You win.
:toast:

:rofl:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #17
48. /thread...nt
Sid
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #17
56. Speechless -- too brilliant for words. :-) nt
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:31 AM
Response to Reply #17
85. Your Kung Fu is strong!
:rofl:
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Definitely a conspiracy, a terrorist act against the national treasure that he is!
But who is behind it? FBI? CIA? GOP? Obama? All of the above? I suggest the pit be examined for fingerprints! Hope his lawyer saved it!!!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:45 PM
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26. The 9/11 Toother Movement will get to the bottom of this one!
I bet Mossad did it with olives from the trees they stole from Palestine!
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. You are so right! Shame on me that I was too slow to make the connection!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:46 PM
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27. Sounds like he's fighting with his dental insurance company. n/t
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. and therefore suing the cafeteria?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. Yeah, it sounds like they've tried to off the cost on the cafeteria.
That's what insurance companies do. Although, it is more fun to bash Dennis. :)
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Of course! They are just using his name, and he is unaware of it!
And I also have a used dental bridge I can sell you...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. No, sweetie. You ask the insurance company to cover you
and they say, it's the cafeteria's liability. You go around with them for two or three years and get nowhere and wind up suing the cafeteria.

Don't you have insurance? I don't but remember this dance from when I did.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. I find it difficult to believe, "sweetie."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. It's much easier to believe that Dennis just sued them
after three years for no reason?

Okay.

:)
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. There are reasons. He is about to be redistricted out of existence. He needs money.
But, that aside, are you really saying that Dennis, who believes in UFOs, is such a level-headed person that we should always approach him as the most logical creature?
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:10 PM
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49. He said he saw one
As in "unidentified flying object", something I & thousands of Arizonans saw, referring to the "Phoenix lights". I never did find out what those were but I never cared to find out.

Either way this is so much worse than appealing the right of detainees to challenge their detention, block torture photos, and continue tribunals.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. You clearly know exactly what is going on.
:)
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:13 PM
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52. So who is his insurer?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. What does that have to do with anything?
Have you never dealt with an insurance company? Ever? They all do this.

Are you still on your parents' policy or what?
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #54
61. I would think it has everything to do with it
You have this reflex assumption but you don't know the most basic facts.

I would think he might have the same plan presented to every other member of congress (FEHB) and that a member of congress would have a bit more clout, especially since health care reform occupied 18 of the months since the incident occurred.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #61
66. Knowing how a system works is not a reflex.
But since you "would think" that, I won't interfere with your "reasoning".

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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #66
71. Describing personal experiences is an anecdote, not insight on how a system works
In short, you're presumed knowledge is not even statistically significant.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #71
77. If you have The Google, why don't you go read Wendell Potter
former vice prez of the communications unit at Cigna and try hard to read a little bit of what he says about the lengths insurance companies will go to to refuse benefits.

And that's the very last second I'm willing to give you of my beautiful mind or my time. Ciao. :)

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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #77
78. LOL
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #54
80. If the insurance company thought the cafeteria was liable, they
would be the ones going after the cafeteria for dental costs,which I doubt would add up to $150,000.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #45
57. Countless military personnel have also witnessed UFO sightings.
(Note, I said "UFO," not "aliens.")

Shall we also consider their judgment suspect in every other regard?

Or is this simply another episode of the new hit show at DU, Punch the Hippie?
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #41
58. When I got hurt at work, and the insurance company was dicking me around, Tenn-Care
paid my medical bills and for 2 neck surgeries. When workers comp was found to be liable, the State wanted, and got, their money back from the insurance company.

I have a 17 year old son. As boys are prone to do, he has gotten hurt a few times playing football out in the yard, or horse-playing around (twisted ankles or knees). After taking him to the ER, I always get a letter from the insurance company wanting to know if these injuries were caused by an accident that someone else could be held liable for.

In short, YES, the cafeteria caused the injury. Dennis may have used his dental insurance and they want their money back. Maybe he had to pay out of pocket if his insurance refused to pay because someone else was liable. Maybe Dennis has tried to handle it diplomatically for a couple of years, getting nowhere, go he had to break down and file suit.

Hope that helped you understand it a little better...

Peace,

Ghost

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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. *giggle*
"dental bridge I can sell you"
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. What?
Are you saying the insurance company played this off on the cafeteria and Kiucinich is taking the bait but you still praise him for taking on the insurance company that got him to take the bait that doesn't lead to the insurance company?

That's some tri-demential chess right there.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Boy, that's a really, really bad paraphrase.
Before you call anyone demented, remember charity begins at home.

No. I pointed out that it looks like he's going around with the insurance company. That would or could lead to a suit like this.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. Who is his insurer?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #44
53. Why don't you ask him? Beside the point.
This is what insurance companies do and why we're still screwed, depending on them.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #53
68. Is that why we were mandated to buy from them?
I feel better already.

Remember when the president was saying we should all have the same insurance congress has?

Good times. Good times.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. Yes, this is why we are mandated to buy from them. n/t
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:41 AM
Response to Reply #68
88. I actually believed we had a good chance to be able to join the federal plan, and expected nothing f
What a big joke on ME! Fed employees have wonderful health, dental and vision coverage CHOICES.

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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #88
114. Yes, but does it cover olive pits?
Apparently this was overlooked during the debate process.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
46. "tri-dementional"
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 04:04 PM by Codeine
:rofl: I think I love you! :D
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:12 PM
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51. Aw, that's so sweet I won't let my husband see it
:pals:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #46
55. We need a new category of freeperisms generated by -- us.
LOL
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:25 PM
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64. Why would we add "LOL"? It was worn out years ago
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:27 PM
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67. LOL
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #67
73. You spelled it backwards.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. The important thing is that the dental insurance company be afraid it COULD have been them
As soon as the cafeteria is found to be liable the insurance company will quiver so mightily they will pay up.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:24 PM
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62. I hope he wins his lawsuit.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. So do I. (I'm consistent that way.)
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:01 AM
Response to Reply #65
82. Do you think he deserves $150,000?
I can see reimbursing him for his out of pocket dental costs, but how the hell does he get to $150,000?

Shame on Dennis.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #82
98. It never is just the cost of the loss. 5000 isn't going to get any
company to get off their asses and mask sure it doesn't happen again. Shame on you for siding with companies that don't give a rats ass about you or anyone else.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #62
90. On condition that he agrees to a jello, pudding, cream soup, white bread diet.
Seeds and such are too hard for Dennis to handle at this period in his life. ;)

Rep. Kucinich should refrain from eating brownies (nut shells) or oysters, or any 'grownup' foods. Chicken with bones is a no no.

Jello, puddings, macaroni and cheeese, creamed soup. No chicken or pulled pork BBQ (might have bones or gristle: he could choke) or sausages(!) Sausages sometimes have bone nubs in them. *lol*

We've got to make prepared foods safe for all our vulnerable Congressmen.

BTW, our Congresscritters have a good dental plan. Unlike the serfs.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:25 PM
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63. May all the nay-sayers chomp down on an olive pit tomorrow.
Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 04:27 PM by WinkyDink
This is really not a joke.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:33 PM
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72. Who hasn't bitten down on an olive pit?
Anyone who eats olives a lot has chomped a pit. I've done it a few times on kalamatas.

Not all the pits come out in processing. It says so right on the jar. Occasionally you'll encounter one -- life goes on.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:54 AM
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91. Grownups learn not to ferociously CHOMP DOWN on sandwiches or other items;)
Does anybody remember the story about the guy who got an awful case of lockjaw because he opened his mouth to bite into an overstuffed sandwich?

Man Gets Lockjaw Attempting To Eat Giant Sandwich
By Meg Marco on April 9, 2010 4:22 PM 0 views

We expected this to be a lawsuit story, but its more like a marketing story. The Dallas, TX based sandwich chain "Which Wich" is naming a sandwich after Mr. Chad Ettmueller, a customer who experienced lockjaw after trying to take a bite of a really big sandwich called a "Wicked."

Our favorite part of the story is that his jaw locked on the first bite, so he went to the hospital and while they were taking care of him, his best friend went into his wife's van, found the sandwich and ate it. That guy is awesome.

YouTube with reenactment at link:

http://consumerist.com/2010/04/man-gets-lockjaw-attempting-to-eat-giant-sandwich.html

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:29 AM
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106. Of course, you know how DK ate/eats. Your anecdote is irrelevant.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #72
107. But he wasn't eating olives out of a can, a jar, or a dish. Indeed, HE WASN'T EATING OLIVES. He was
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 10:37 AM by WinkyDink
eating a sandwich CONTAINING PITTED OLIVES.

WTH would "reasonably expect" that the SANDWICH MAKER would NOT have been the one to detect the pit?
I expect the food-preparer to take the precautions. We all do, so let's not be disingenuous here just for a giggle at Dennis.

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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #63
75. This is the new and improved DU
It's a good chance to bash Kucinich. If this would have a been a little kitty that broke its tooth on a bone left in a can of 9lives there would be calling for heads to roll.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:37 AM
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100. That ain't no shit!
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 04:14 AM
Response to Reply #63
93. And if we do, we get $150,000, as DK thinks we should?
I suspect some DUers might take that deal. How much does it cost to fix a tooth? Or even to get a tooth with a titanium implant?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #63
96. Should I then be able to win a $150K lawsuit against you?
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 08:59 AM by Statistical
For your reckless and negligent suggestion.

Ouch I hurt my toot and OBVIOUSLY you are the responsible party.
Don't worry I am willing to accept out of court settlement of only $15K. Just think you could save 90% + legal fees.

Have your people call my people and we will get this negligent outburst of yours behind us.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #96
103. WTF makes no sense what so ever. None
I'm going to sue you for the hell of it . You worried now.?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:32 PM
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70. In DK's defense--and this does pain me--remember Stella Liebeck:
As a paralegal, I have to see this from both sides--Ms. Liebeck's complaint was thought to be frivolous and it was anything but.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

Now, go ahead and have your fun, DU; I certainly am in this thread.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 04:15 AM
Response to Reply #70
94. Do you think he deserves $150,000? (nt)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #94
97. Not for me to decide and I'm not defending Kucinich--but Ms. Liebeck became
a national joke--except the jury that found McDonald's liable didn't find her third and fourth degree serious burns funny.

I think the suit MAY be silly--but I don't know all the facts. I'd like to read the complaint (I do that for a living--I'm a paralegal).
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #94
104. I see it more of a matter of is the company liable for $150,000?
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 10:26 AM by LAGC
You put too much focus on the individual, when its the corporation that's at issue here.

Simply suing them for dental costs isn't going to entice them to change their ways.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #104
108. You understand how torts work. Sadly, even many on the Left don't get that simple fact. nt
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:38 PM
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74. Is Kucinich serious or is he trying to give the right-wing "tort reform" advocates some ammunition?

It took him three years to sue?

Well, perhaps he wants the courts to throw out his lawsuit as frivolous and a bit tardy, as it is, to make a point.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 04:41 PM
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76. this man is a joke
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:25 AM
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84. I cracked a molar eating ballpark nachos a few years ago.
If there was any justice, I would own a piece of Alfonso Soriano now.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #84
95. Let me guess. Your dental bills were less than $150,000 (nt)
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #95
113. Yes, just as most assuredly Rep. Kucinich's were.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:35 AM
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86. Pitting machines may break or miss a pit from olives or cherries every couple of thousand...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 02:37 AM by Mimosa
And many is the time I've made brownies or pecan pie and caught a chunk of shell in the cup of bagged nuts I was using. Commercial kitchens try diligently to sort by hand (usually gloved) through foods which may have bits of shell (like clams or oysters, nuts, olives, et cetera, but commercial restaurant kitchens are dealing in great volumes of ingredients.

Who hasn't bitten into an olive or cherry pit? Or people who eat oysters have to be careful of bits of shell. It's to be expected in natural foods. But to want $150,000 is greedy. Why not just ask for the cost of the dental repair? There is no way Kucinich's dental repair cost anywhere near that. A dear friend in New Orleans once bit too enthusiastically into a fried oyster po-boy sandwich. There was a hard bit of shell in it and one of her teeth split. It cost $995 to file it down and cap it. For a while my GF was shy of Po-boys, but in about a year she resumed eating 'em and NEVER again had a problem because she was careful not to eat too fast or bite too hard.


A muffaletta is an extremely popular sandwich in New Orleans. It is made with Italian cold cuts, cheese and dressed with a dense chopped olive relish. I think people used to eating olives in any foodstuffs make a hapit of not chomping down too hard. BTW, I've a close friend who cracked a tooth while eating a fried oyster po-boy sandwich. There's a 'natural substances' law in Louisiana to protect restaurant owners from being sued when people come across oyster shells, olive pits and other parts which might show up in foods. Even with due diligence, it's not possible to make sure every food item every time won't have pits, seeds, whatever.

I guess because of Kucinich that food supplier will no longer serve olives in any sandwiches or salads. That's a pity. We who love mediterranean foods know how to eat olives!

A muffaletta (olive salad is integral):





And here's another factor: some people's natural teeth become softer with age. My partner's dad (then in his early 60s) back tooth fissured when he bit an uncooked grain or two of rice while we were dining at a Greek restaurant. One expects rice to be soft, but apparently some grains did not get integrated into the pot. And since the fellow was on vacation, the split tooth was even more of an inconvenience. There had been six of us at the table. He didn't tell us what happened until after we'd left the restaurant. It was a crummy experience, but he never thought to sue the restaurant.

We live in a litigious society. Once I slipped and sprained my ankle on an uneven tree root broken sidewalk in front of the New Orleans Museum of Art. I had to go to the doctor because it was a bad sprain. But I never thought to sue the museum. Life is full of the unexpected, isn't it?
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #86
102. Damn that's the same tree some elderly woman tripped on
and broke her hip and died a week later. Good for you not suing!
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #102
126. Never happened.
But you have quite an imagination.

Actually, the broken parts of sidewalk slabs in City park should be outlined in fluorescent orange and there should have been warning signs. IN NOLA, because of the tree roots of ancient live oak trees, it is impossible to have relatively flat sidewalks, anywhere. :)

But warning signs would be helpful. Only stuff like that was so expensive in a cash strapped city.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #126
128. Your conscience wants you to think so. That is all. A good start for you
today would be for you to realize that there are many things you do not know and there are things you think you know but do not.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #86
118. Can I sue you????
That sam'ich scared me... bad.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:43 AM
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89. I broke my tooth eating a candy.
Should I have sued the candy company for damages?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 03:31 AM
Response to Reply #89
92. Go for it.
Willie Wonka is rolling in it.

Profits are way up due to cheap, immigrant labor, (Oompa Loompas)

and don't get me started about lax regulations! (a river of molten chocolate in the facility with no guardrails?)
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #89
99. Did they insert a ball bearing in the candy? Was the candy as
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 09:31 AM by RegieRocker
expected?
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 09:50 AM
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101. The reactions to this post are very troublesome indeed.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 09:52 AM by RegieRocker
When a person sues, the amount for damages is not only for repairs, replacement etc. It is also for pain and suffering and your time. The amount is always many times what is expected since rarely is it the full amount paid. In most cases a settlement is made for much less. Out of the proceeds the lawyer is paid and the plaintiff gets the rest. So kiddies no Dennis won't get 150k.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #101
105. Disturbing also in making LIGHT of injuries requiring SURGERIES, FGS.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 10:28 AM by WinkyDink
Never expected purported Democrats to criticize, let alone mock and revile, a citizen's right to legal redress.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #105
115. oh please. He has the best medical AND dental insurance that money can buy
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #115
125. Exactly. Kucinich is a member of the privileged class.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 10:42 PM by Mimosa
Unlike the rest of us who somehow manage to get through our lives without suing restaurants and grocery stores.


I just don't buy that his bite into a sandwich with a pit of an olive is worth $150,000. I've known 10 people whove bitten into sandwiches, cooked up frozen dinners and didn't try for big bucks. Once I found the tip of a knife (!) in a Trader Joe's frozen salmon dinner. Fortunately I didn't swallow the little 1/8th inch tip of knife (probably carbon not stainless steel). I felt it on my tongue. I suppose it had gotten into the fish when it was being filleted. Even still, deboning fish from the skeleton is a process requiring a human with a knife, afaik. Accidents happen.

But some of us who eat like adults really learned to chew. So our jaws and tongues are sensitive to the unusual.

I don't know what would have happened to me if I'd swallowed the teeny knife tip. I did take it into Trader Joe's and told them about it. The manager seemed to not believe me or wanted to ignore that it happened. So, thereafter I stopped buying their frozen dinners. :7

I still shop there. I just won't buy what I can't readily SEE!
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #115
129. Bill Gates has one of the best. Who has the best? It's for certain
you don't know.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #105
120. Never mind. Someone else's injuries are always silly - but I'd
love to hear the replies if something similar happened to them. Just depends on whose ox is being gored.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #120
127. I'm one.
And in life one can't always be protected and perfectly insulated from accidents.

A diligent hardworking cafe employee making sandwiches may miss some tiny pit natural to chopped or sliced olives. My guess is the whole company will never again serve any recipe containing olives because one person chose to make a huge deal out of his BIG CHOMP.

There are waysof eating and chewing. If one is careful, one seldom will choke on a ham sandwich and die, like Mama Cass. :7
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #127
130. That makes a whole lot of sense! Free for all: bones in fish, pieces of nut
shells no holds barred. Hell yea it's on your own no recourse we are company loving brown nosing get down on our knees and thank those wonderful companies for charging us too much for their products and paying us too little to make it. If you do happen to get injured from our product like using it as intended then you're a leech to ask for a recourse. Brown nosers make me puke.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #101
123. He may be asking for punitive damages.
Punitive and exemplary damages are sought on top of actual damages. Punitive damages are meant to punish the defendant; exemplary damages are meant to make an example of the defendant.

Punitive damages are awarded to get the company's attention, basically, so they won't commit the tortious act again.

I am glad Dennis is suing if he was injured. Tooth problems are not funny. Tooth problems (like abscesses and gum infections) can KILL you or give you heart disease and weaken you all over.

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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:37 AM
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109. Gee if he wins the suit
I am going to order everything with olives in my sandwiches hoping I can cash in and put the business and owners out of business in the process. What the heck. 150K for a bit of dental work? I had re-constructive dental work and spent about 7000 total. Insurance picked up a good portion of that. I figure I can profit 143000 minimum for my time and a little bit of pain. Go Dennis Go! HAHA

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:38 AM
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110. Go for it. I hope you duplicate his feat.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 10:40 AM
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112. Waiting to see if he wins
and then on a mission with precedent. lol
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:26 PM
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122. Damn, Dennis....how about spending that $ on my dental needs instead?
:patriot:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 08:35 PM
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124. too late to unrec - unfortunately, given the source. nt
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