Egypt reaches the boiling point (Take 2) Graphics heavy

[Catherina]

I had to self-delete my http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x278308">original thread for inadvertently (notepad word-wrapping) posting more than 4 paragraphs. I apologize for my stupid mistake to the DU members who rec'd and who posted replies before my thread got locked.

Reposted with Admin permission with apologies that I had to bother them for such a stupid thing.

I recommend reading the whole article.

Egypt reaches the boiling point
January 26, 2011



Crowds of demonstrators jammed the streets of Cairo (Al Jazeera)Crowds of demonstrators jammed the streets of Cairo (Al Jazeera)

...

In fact, if you take into account the number of workers who have been involved in strikes and labor demonstrations in recent years, it is around 1 million. The workers movement has been building up for a number of years, gaining steam and winning concessions from the government. The government didn't always come through. But workers won their strikes, at least on paper, and have felt more confident.

...

The other remarkable thing is that the Egyptian national trade union federation--led by people appointed by the government--has partially broken with the government in the two weeks following the Tunisian uprising. They want price controls, an increase in wages and a system of subsidized outlets for basic food. People can't find staples like tea and oil. For the union officials to demand this is unheard of, because these people supported neoliberalism. That is the impact of Tunisia.

Meanwhile, the conditions facing workers are growing worse. The official unemployment figure is 12 percent, but the real figure is 24 or 25 percent. Food prices are out of control. One kilo of tomatoes--a staple good--is $2; it used to be 35 cents not long ago. That's prohibitively expensive in a country where government workers make only about $26 a month. The question of hunger is real. And now the IMF is pressuring the government to remove the subsidies on gasoline prices.

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All this means that there is an opening for the left--especially the socialists--to grow. There is new blood in the movement, and the Muslim Brotherhood isn't fighting. It's the left that is taking up this fight, along with new radicals.

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http://socialistworker.org/2011/01/26/egypt-reaches-a-boiling-point



One man, ONE young man started this all: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Catherina/125


Rest in peace Mohamed Bouazizi

Pictures from today










The man in the white shirt being dragged by 5 plain clothes thugs is Sharif Kouddous' (Amy Goodman's producer) uncle. Hat Tip to EFerrari.

UPDATE: EgyKiwi RT @sharifkouddous: My uncle is being freed from custody but is refusing to go until students arrested with him are also released #Jan25 #Egypt half a minute ago via TweetDeck














http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JBpDTzxDREY/TUBfmVIhH0I/AAAAAAAADiA/PyF31zg87XA/s1600/mubarak+%2526+shoe.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8txhtB2e5M

[xchrom]

1. recommend

[BOG PERSON]

2. more pictures if you want to look at them

here.

[Catherina]

8. Thank you Bog Person. Some of those are beautiful classics.

I especially liked these






A boy runs from a column of riot policeman during anti-government protests in downtown Cairo January 25, 2011. Egyptian police fired tear gas at protesters gathered in the city center, and earlier used a water cannon in the same location. (REUTERS/Amr Abdallah Dalsh) #








A resident of Kasserine, Tunisia cries as he holds a portrait of his brother Mohamed Mbarki, who was killed during clashes with Tunisian security forces in December, as he demonstrates in front of the government palace in Tunis January 25, 2011. (FETHI BELAID/AFP/Getty Images) #

[Bragi]

13. So is this a good revolution, or not?

Will this result in more freedom or less? More democracy or more tyranny? A tolerant or intolerant government?

Those a real questions in my mind. I really don't yet have a feeling for what is happening there.

[Catherina]

15. I think only history can answer that question.

But I'm always on the side of the people. When you're starving, homeless, jobless, you might as well die trying.

I hope it results in more freedom. It's hard to imagine Egyptians having less freedom than they do now.

[Bragi]

16. I too hope for the best

Would not an Iran-type Islamic state not be worse in the long run for most people? Is that one of the main possible outcomes?

[Catherina]

21. From what I've read

the Egyptian Brotherhood isn't officially involved and doesn't want to be. The young people leading this thing want a secular government where Arabs, Muslims, Jews and Christians are all respected. I wish them all the luck.

[reggie the dog]

24. I doubt it in Egypt

only a tiny minority there wants an Islamic type state. The people are already chasing armed soldiers down with sticks so I hardly think they would stand for a religious theocracy using force to get into power. From what the press here in France and bbc have been saying most egyptians are very happy having state seperated from religious extremists.

[Bragi]

56. That's good to hear

It would be quite exhilarating to see a new, democratic, secular state emerge. But I've learned not to hope for too much too fast.

[Recursion]

61. Eh? MB is basically the only opposition

I think you're being too optimistic, personally

[reggie the dog]

97. french news has been reporting

that most people dont want islamist rule, that historically Mubarak has been against islamists but that the protests against him are not in favor of the "muslim brotherhood" extremists but instead protests calling for another non religious leader. They people are simply sick of 30 years of rule by the same man and recent food price hikes have been the catalyst for protest. BBC radio was saying somthing similar too but perhaps we are all being optimistic.

[reggie the dog]

23. the peoples goals are

1. a larger piece of the economic pie (socialism) to the detriment of the rich

2. more government accountability (from a corrupt government working for the benefit of the rich oligarchy instead of the people

(egypt already has a free press and more freedom than tunisia and remember the scores of muslims who went to christian churches when their was the threat of violence from a few extremists last month)

[Atypical Liberal]

109. And will they have the means to pull it off?

When I see these scenes of revolution from around the world I'm struck by the terrible disparity of force, and how impotent the protesters are. They have no weapons with which to resist against their oppressors. They are left with signs, rocks, and Molotov cocktails.

[Voice for Peace]

111. they also have passion and that counts for a LOT

[Atypical Liberal]

112. It does indeed.

Apathy will overcome even the best prepared. Motivation can overcome even unpreparedness. To a point.

You can jump off a cliff with as much passion as you want, but if you don't have a parachute or wings you aren't going to fly.

[Odin2005]

39. I like this 2nd pic!

[blondeatlast]

51. Me too--that's one for the ages. nt

[fishwax]

72. wow.

:wow:

Thanks for the link.

[leftstreet]

3. K&R

Thanks for reposting

[LiberalLoner]

4. It's okay - understandable mistake - this is a passionate topic, and

I always remember Ann Landers saying that the letters she received that were real were always full of misspellings and mistakes because they were from people who had intense feelings as they wrote.

Completely human and understandable mistake.

[Catherina]

11. But really embarrassing. Thanks LiberalLoner n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. The times they are a'changin' - K&R

[formercia]

6. Best wishes to the people of Egypt n/t

[LiberalLoner]

7. +1,000 I love the Egyptian people. Spent a year in the Sinai, grew to love them. n/t k&R

[Catherina]

12. I'm jealous. Any personal thoughts about this uprising? n/t

[LiberalLoner]

57. Oh, nothing that everyone doesn't already know here....but I'll talk anyhow

just to hear myself talk :)

Basically, the government has been subsidizing the price of various necessities for the people for awhile - fuel, cooking oil, bread...and that was really needed because the average income of the average Egyptian is about one dollar per day.

Now, I read that the average family in Egypt at this time is living on 26 dollars a month...unemployment rate is horrible. I met young men in Egypt who spoke English fluently, had advanced degrees in things like engineering, and could not find a job.

And the food there is now as expensive, just about, as it is here. Tomatoes, one of the foods often eaten by Egyptians (tomato and mint salad, etc.) are now 2 dollars a kilo. How can a family buy tomatoes to eat, when they only have 26 dollars a month to live on, including to pay rent with etc.?

So there is literally an issue with starvation in Egypt. The subsidies are going away - IMF has insisted on it. The oligarchs of the world have decided most of us peons (including those of us in the US) need to die right now.

So the choice of the Egyptians at this point...fight back or die. That's about the size of it.

I am on the side of the Egyptian people. I don't give a crap about the U.S. agenda in the middle east or our interests, etc. I care about the Egyptian people and want better for them.

[Catherina]

60. $2 a kilo? It's over for Mubarak then. He could hand out free food for a month

and it won't stop these guys.

I agree with your statement that they're at "fight back or die" now. Egyptian celebrities have joined the protests. Mubarak's ouster is a done deal now imo.

They're making things worse by clamping down on Suez so hard

Ambitionissta #Suez said to be #Egypt's #BouAzizi as police work on isolating it, reports of electricity & mobile lines going down. #Jan25

What does Mubarak think a bunch people, especially young people, with no electricity, no phones, no computer connections, are going to do now other than get out in the streets?

$2 a kilo out of $26 in monthly income. I'm reeling over here. Thanks

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

9. That toon is by Carlos Latuff, a Brazilian of Arabic descent.

A very, very radical fellow. As in, even I think he's TOO radical. But he rocks nonetheless.

[Catherina]

14. I didn't know he was of Arabic descent.

I just heard about him today. Apparently his artwork is quite an inspiration in Egypt, like Tunisia. Where is he originally from?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

20. I don't know exactly. In all likelihood, Lebanese.

That's where most Arabic immigrants here come from. I could be wrong, of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Latuff

[Octafish]

10. La Vache Qui Rit got the shoe.

The Saudis must be sweating bullets about now.

[Name removed]

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[Catherina]

19. That shoe thing is classic. The man who threw his shoe at Bush is still a hero to me

It looks like the shoe throwing has caught on in earnest.



Can you explain your reference to La Vache Qui Rit better please? I'm kind of dense but I agree that the Saudis are sweating bullets now. They might as well start packing.

[reggie the dog]

27. la vache qui rit

is a brand of very bland cheese sold here in france in supermarkets and it is sold as laughing cow cheese in the usa. i dont know the connection in the other post but i do know why the cow is laughing, it is happy because it is a cow used to make cheese, not hamburgers...... ;)

[Catherina]

31. Ok, I'm laughing. Maybe the cow is laighing because Mubarak is about to become

HAMBURGER! Un Big Mac!

[Octafish]

32. It's a nickname a few Egyptians have for this guy...

It's his signature smile.

[Catherina]

34. Ok! That makes perfect sense. Fitting nickname. Thanks Octafish n/t

[reggie the dog]

18. Beautiful!

There have been full on riots in Greece, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, the UK and Spain, and general strikes in Spain, Portugal, Italy, and France in the past 6 months.... people have fucking had it with inflation, trickle down and all the rest. I hope to see full on riots soon here again in France, it has been a good 3 years since we have had any proper rioting. us teachers will be on strike starting the 10th of february.... i am bringing my 3 year old down to Marseille to do the demonstration in the hope that the longshoremens strike that started today will either have been won or still be ongoing because those union guys dont fuck around and they bring it right to the cops which will make the protest in marseille a thing of beauty

[Catherina]

30. And guess what music is at the forefront? French resistance rap Kenny Arkana

Merci a vous tous Regie. Chapeau bas.

Solidarite.

If you want some DU solidarity in France, I'll fly over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVR6xL7fkaY

[blindpig]

22. k&r

[druidity33]

25. I see only one woman...

in all of those photographs, even the dense crowd scenes. Are women not to be a part of this revolution?

:shrug:

[reggie the dog]

28. perhaps it is cultural

as in the guys are still a bit macho (think like the usa in 1965) and they all suggested to their sisters, wifes, daughters that it would be best to let the men get into brawls with the police. these people are going out knowing that they are going to get into fights, perhaps it is chauvanism? it would be cool to see women in the photos too, plus you think that it would make the soldiers less likely to shoot knowing that there were women in the crowd in a macho country.

[Recursion]

29. I see six in the crowd and the one closeup

They're not all in hijab, which is what you might have been looking for.

[druidity33]

46. in the crowd shot

there are at least a couple hundred people. I was looking for hijabs first, but then looked closer when i didn't see any. I see 4 or 5 in the shot you're referring to now... but that's still less than 3% of the group total. I hope to see more women out there soon, otherwise i find myself wondering whether they support the protests... still not sure what to think about how this will all turn out.

:(

[Catherina]

33. I read earlier that the women outnumbered men in the streets

Here's a video of a girl inspiring many in Egypt now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdny0FTBohg You can see many women there.

About 2 hours ago, I posted a tweet that the police was clubbing women and the men were defending them, pushing back even harder. I'll keep an eye out for you.

[reggie the dog]

98. perhaps we are seeing photos of the men who got angry

and started pushing back against the cops when they say women being bloodied by them?

[blondeatlast]

53. Look closely and beyond the hijab; many aren't wearing one (not required in SA). nt

[druidity33]

103. I have looked closely...

there are VERY FEW women in the photographs. I went to the site and loaded 37 pics, really VERY FEW women in ANY of the photographs. I remember seeing a much better balance of men to women in the Tunisia revolt photos.

I'm not trying to say anything about it in particular, i'm just wondering if there's a reason for it. As a Photographer we were taught "head-counting" and "crowd estimation" techniques (Photojournalism class), and in my estimate... these crowd shots show <3% women. That's really one sided.

:shrug:

[Recursion]

26. Translation of the sign the guy's holding? (NM... found it)

I can read "hariya" + justice = safety and security but I have no idea what "hariya" is.

Edit: "Dignity". It seems misspellings aren't limited to American protesters. Or they might just spell it that way in Egypt.

[Catherina]

36. Thank you. Good to know. I like these factoids. n/t

[Recursion]

63. It's weird to me that misspellings in English are so easy to read...

...while misspellings in other languages, even ones I'm good at, are not at all easy to read.

[Catherina]

70. Long live the edit button! n/t

[reggie the dog]

99. i would bank on it being spelled different in egyptian

there are huge differences between the arabic written in egypt and that of morocco or tunisia.

[Starry Messenger]

35. k&r

[PassingFair]

37. Jeez. The entire population of Cairo looks MALE.

I see, two, maybe three women in all of the
pictures I've seen.

HUGE difference from protests here:

[Catherina]

38. They're out there. "Police continued to arrest women in big numbers."

Just spotted this on my twitter page as you asked.

LobeLog "Police continued to arrest women in big numbers." -Emad Mekay in #Cairo http://bit.ly/hLy24b #Jan25 Gov't crossing red lines? half a minute ago via web

2 – Police continued to arrest women in big numbers. This is noteworthy because young Egyptian women, many wearing the veils and many others without it, are taking part in the demonstrations despite the violent crackdown by the police. I expect this to be a major contentious point that could push more ordinary to protest against the government that is arresting “their daughters.” In this generally conservative society, women are often treated with more respect and are often shiled from dealing with the brutal and abuse police members. It shows how nervous the government is. They are starting to cross some extra red lines.

http://www.lobelog.com/egypt-government-shows-nervousness/

[PassingFair]

40. Thanks Catherina!

Good to hear it!

[Catherina]

42. AP's Maggie Michael beaten today. Suez is in bad shape.

# Avatar_pic_normal jmayton RT @lindsaywise: RT @hadeelalsh AP's Maggie Michael beaten today and AP's Nasser Nasser was beaten by police and will need surgery #egypt #Jan25 half a minute ago via web


RT @habibh: Seems like Cairo Police is close to giving up... Protesters quickly gaining more ground #Jan25 #Egypt 2 minutes ago via Tweetie for Mac



Cardboard effigy of Mubarak hanging on a traffic light in Tahrir



Meet Kamel, the day's youngest demonstrator





# Image_normal livinginCairo 2 muertos en El Cairo. La situación en Suez es terrible #jan25 #Egypt less than 20 seconds ago via Mobile Web

sedaye_iran RT @Port_Sa3eedy: UPDATE: Two more unarmed protesters have been murdered in #Cairo, bringing the death toll in the uprising to at least 7. #Egypt #Jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via web



asteris RT @AlMasryAlYoum_E Ahram Reporter Lina Wardani arrested in Boulak, Al-Masry Al-Youm photographer injured in Suez clashes #jan25 #Egypt less than 20 seconds ago via Seesmic twhirl


sara055 RT @estr4ng3d: News reporters are being denied entry to Suez now! The Mubarak regime wants to cover its genocide. #JAN25 #Egypt via @gamaleid less than 20 seconds ago via web


ABrandNewWorld RT @imjustBliss: RT @Port_Sa3eedy: UNCONFIRMED: Airport security saying unannounced presidential emergency jets are leaving Cairo #jan25 #egypt #Revolution half a minute ago via Echofon


SalmaBanna RT @estr4ng3d: Aljazeera: Arrested protesters are being detained in secret camps and denied access to lawyers #Jan25 #Egypt less than 20 seconds ago via web



# Default_profile_1_normal omar_yousry RT @Ahmedfouad: Special request to all international & local reporters & journalists. Please go to Suez if possible-GOV KILLING ZONE- #Jan25 #Egypt #25jan less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck


# Default_profile_2_normal sarahraslan RT @Warchadi: #Jan25 #Egypt - Government is trying to cover up what happened in city of Suez. Media banned from entry. less than 20 seconds ago via web

[Catherina]

75. Here's another but this is disturbing (youtube video)

The twitter read

Gilean_normal snefru RT @salmaeldaly: 1 min video arresting & beating women #Jan25 #Egypt #Democracy, using a very bad language I cant translate http://t.co/d7gKYYW via @youtube
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmirhIfPBEo)

[reggie the dog]

100. like i thought before

chivalry, the men see cops beating the women and then take it upon themselves to charge at the police, so you see photos of the angry men avenging the violence committed against women.

[Catherina]

41. 'Egypt protesters torch govt. building' Suez. Protesting in Metro

'Egypt protesters torch govt. building'


Anti-government protesters clash with riot police near burning tyres placed as a barricade during clashes in Cairo January 26, 2011.


Protesters in Egypt have torched a government building in the port city of Suez, witnesses say, as protests continue against the government of President Hosni Mubarak.


Protesters threw Molotov cocktails at the building on Wednesday, setting parts of it on fire and also lobbed firebombs at the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party, AFP reported.

Clashes have been reported in Alexandria and the city of Suez, with security forces using water cannons, batons, rubber bullets and tear gas to break up the crowds.

At least 70 people -- 55 protesters and 15 police -- have been injured in the clashes in Suez, medics said.

...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/162154.html

coldnight74 RT @simonjhanna: tear gas, crowds, chanting, and a hanging #mubarak- my vid from Jan 25 http://tinyurl.com/4rl7uad #Jan 25 #Egypt


schleprock Police at Suez Morgue Clash with Protesters Footage Egypt 26 Jan 2011 http://t.co/C76sHpN #jan25 #suez less than 20 seconds ago via Tweet Button


tvigy RT @MoustafaAyad: Egyptians stop metro train Downtown, 'Thuggery' attempts to mow down protestors stopped by the public: http://bit.ly/fnNBoR #Jan25 #Egypt half a minute ago via web


69fd9264-a7db-49c3-ab45-33b01fdd1cbd_normal DuhaAwayes RT @CaireneGirl: Video: Egyptians protest inside metro - http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=24763 #jan25 #tahrir #freedom #egypt #cairo

[Catherina]

43. UNCONFIRMED: Airport security saying unannounced presidential emergency jets are leaving Cairo

# Miniroscharch_normal robpurpura RT @Port_Sa3eedy: UNCONFIRMED: Airport security saying unannounced presidential emergency jets are leaving Cairo #jan25 #egypt #Revolution half a minute ago via web

[Catherina]

44. Crowley at US State Dept making a total ass out of himself.

# Dscf1869_normal vihargg @PJCrowley on CNN re:Egypt: "you've got to work with indigenous forces". #Egypt #Jan25 half a minute ago via HootSuite



# Img_3465_normal tololy Ruling party member on AlJazeera Arabic: " #Tunisia and #Palestine will NOT repeat themselves in #Egypt " Hah! #Jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via web

[Catherina]

45. Snipers and thugs are being spotted. Suez is a killing zone

# Big_rooster_in_de_winter_egypt_2_normal bigrooster RT @AmoonaE: Snipers and thugs are being spotted on 6th October bridge whose exits and entrances being closed #Jan25 #egypt (via @Zeinobia) less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck



2011khankar RT @Khaffousa: Rumors : Arab leaders are praying for a statement from Bin Laden congratulating people of #Tunisia & #Egypt #SidiBouzid #jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via web



# Aly_20abou_20hashish_normal alyfahmy RT @Ahmedfouad: SUEZ IS A KILLING ZONE AND completely LOCKED DOWN SAVE US (RT) #Jan25 #Egypt #25jan less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck


FaidyOn RT @drjosephedward: HELP, AT SUEZ THEY TOOK DOWN CELL PHONE OPERATORS, WE HAVE NO CELL PHONE COVERAGE.I BELIEVE THEY WILL PUNISH US #Suez #jan25 #25jan #egypt half a minute ago via web


Ahmedfouad ALL THE NEWS AGENCIES ARE blocked FROM ENTERING SUEZ #Egypt #jan25 #25jan WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck

hemara RT @justicentric: SPREAD SPREAD SPREAD: After Friday prayers we r marching from mosques to all public squares to bring down the regime #EGYPT #JAN25 half a minute ago via HootSuite


# Waterfall_normal hothotsa RT @MoustafaAyad: Egyptians stop metro train Downtown, 'Thuggery' attempts to mow down protestors stopped by the public: http://bit.ly/fnNBoR #Jan25 #Egypt half a minute ago via web



EGYkinglover RT @Ahmedfouad: SUEZ IS A KILLING ZONE AND completely LOCKED DOWN SAVE US (RT) #Jan25 #Egypt #25jan less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck

[Catherina]

47. targeting reporters. live ammunition now. AP news crew arrested.

# Steve2_220220_normal stevegoodman RT @_busbar: RT @Nails_McFugger: Seems RIGHT NOW army have locked down #suez and are firing live rounds - internet cut off- people dying #egypt #jan25 half a minute ago via TweetDeck



fo0_ RT @sultanalqassemi: Washington Post: Press freedom group says Egypt targeting reporters http://wapo.st/hhv0Rn #Jan25 half a minute ago via web


JShahryar #Egypt LiveBlog: Report from Suez suggests that police are using live ammunition now: http://tinyurl.com/5um5lm7 #SidiBouzid #Jan25


# Cc68667b-5699-4e00-a0ab-bf64110fca70_normal Cleo2atra RT @hadeelalsh: I'm in a house of screaming women #egypt #jan25 suez tear gas molotov cocktails bullets being fired less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®



Gretalacoqueta RT @PoliticallyBrit: #Journalists #ARRESTED. @BBC RT @ASLANmedia: #EGYPT: Members of the #AP's news crew have been arrested. http://ow.ly/3KLh3 #jan25 #cairo less than 20 seconds ago via Snaptu


SmithSofia RT @danmike1: RT @Zeinobia: All the mobile phone networks in Suez are reportedly not working #suez #egypt #jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck


EGYkinglover RT @Cyberela: RT @Zeinobia A complete internet blockage in Suez #Jan25 #Egypt less than 20 seconds ago via Tweetie for Mac



ummhajarforpal RT @eacusa: #Jan25 #Egypt #Suez is THE Egyptian #SidiBouzid! The people are being massacred by police RIGHT NOW, we need coverage! half a minute ago via Facebook


7fd567ea-b5c7-4537-a83f-5ab5fe8bf4af_normal SocialistViews Activists in the U.S. must demand that the U.S. end its support for the Egyptian dictatorship http://socwrk.org/12090 #jan25 #p2 #egypt


# 161672_1527406924_80932_q_normal Mezgouria This was the chant in Egypt today: يا مبارك, يا مبارك. الطيّارة في إنتظارك O Mubarak, O Mubarak The plane is waiting for you. #egypt #jan25 half a minute ago via Tweetings


rolltidebmz RT @maxstrasser: Remember: The tear gas used on #Egypt protestors is made in the USA http://bit.ly/hqZAwo #Jan25 (via @AngryArabNews)

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[Catherina]

49. Nutshell explanation please?

No time to click on all those links now so an explanation and relevance would helpful. Thanks

[Iterate]

50. Video from Suez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OsqN8kTPqE&feature=BF&list=UL5IfTZwfu3Fk&index=24

Posted about an hour ago, current tweets indicate the situation has gotten worse since this was taken.

[Catherina]

54. Thank you Iterate! This is really amazing stuff

Your video led to this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbP6jCdNn3E (Cairo and some Suez)


geokem7 RT @LadyB84: RT @Shadzzi: AlJazeera Arabic now: even landlines are not operating in #Suez #Egypt #Jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck


Never in my wildest dreams, did I expect to see this day. Did you?

[Catherina]

58. 2 more videos - Suez

Suez Clashes with Police, Egypt Protests 2011 Video السويس الساعة 9 مساء

In the streets of Suez at about 9 pm, January 26, 2011.
http://www.mayomo.com/95043-suez-clashes-with-police-egypt-protests-2011-video-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A9-9-%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A1




Footage at the Suez morgue where protesters tried to retrieve fellow bodies... the city is on fire

http://www.mayomo.com/95044

[somone]

52. Looks like the reckoning is near

[Catherina]

55. Mubarak better start packing. The Egyptians are determined.

Me thinks Hillary mispoke when she called Egypt *stable* yesterday. Saudi Arabia should just set up a hotel for deposed dictators.

essamlane RT @alshaheeed: Our people can protest in shifts, take breaks, sleep & come back. Police cant. If only we can hold up for few days Plz RT #Jan25 #Egypt half a minute ago via web


They're on fire now.


bandidoofoz RT @AtaQadi: Just watch (expletive removed)! "I don't think it is possible for there to be a revolution in Egypt" ~ Ben-Eliezer http://bit.ly/f9nEvR #Egypt #Jan25

[dipsydoodle]

59. Its not the same level as Tunisia

In Cairo there were 2000 protesting out of a local population of 15 million. They've long ways to got yet.

[Catherina]

62. Whose figures are those? I saw much higher figures

but don't have them on hand.

I think they know they have a ways to go. Tunisian activists are all over the net giving them advice and reminding them that Tunisia took a few days.

I think is one is at the same level as Tunisia when you factor in the extra violence. I don't recall Tunisians burning buildings but maybe I'm wrong.

Woff70 RT @marmite_news: New VIDEO from #Suez. The burning building is the Al Arbeen police Head Quarters. http://j.mp/hzo1KQ #Egypt #Jan25 via @pcmsma half a minute ago via bitly

[dipsydoodle]

64. Our bang up to date TV news here in the UK

Total pop. of Tunisia is 10m : Cairo has got 15m all to itself.

They did have fires in Tunisia aimed mainly, I think , at properties owned by the family of the deposed President.

Sadly in the case of Egypt their security forces are better organised and also loyal to whatsisname.

:hi:

[Catherina]

66. The loyalty is worrisome. I hope it's exaggerated and that they're underpaid

Friday is now supposed to be the big day, right after prayers.

What chances do you give Mubarak. I give him 10-15%, no more. :hi:

[dipsydoodle]

68. The probelm with the plain clothes security forces

armed with their clubs is that they appear to be enjoying it. They are substantial in number too. :(

[Catherina]

73. I hope their conscience gets the better of them before Friday.

Not sure how accurate this is because I couldn't find the original statement. Egyptians are reporting that this is by Stephen Cook, Chairman of the American Council on Foreign Relations.

America Has Taken Off the Hijab and has Thus Become "Saaferah" #Jan25 #Egypt #Mubarak

...

"The United States was betting on Mr. Mubarak because of past performance. We witnessed his past actions and recognized his ability to control the Egyptian people."

"Mr. Mubarak was able to provide the United States concrete evidence of his ability to use our AID to Egypt in programs that have served US interests while maintaining a very stable regime for the State of Israel."

"Mr. Mubarak's regime has been of tremendous value to our vital interests in the area. We supported him despite the excesses precisely because of the return value of this support."

"Without Mr. Mubarak, Israel would have had to remain in full military mobilization for the past 30 years, and none of the achievements we have made in the area would have been possible."

...

More: http://twitpic.com/3tpa78

[dipsydoodle]

110. Never mind the tear gas and the water cannon,

by far the most frightening thing I’ve seen in Cairo this week was a gang of about 100 young men wearing casual clothes and an air of utter malevolence.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Egypt-US-Calls-For-Reform-As-Protests-Claim-More-Lives---Two-People-Killed-In-Cairo-Demonstration/Article/201101415912384?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15912384_Egypt%3A_US_Calls_For_Reform_As_Protests_Claim_More_Lives_-_Two_People_Killed_In_Cairo_Demonstration

[bongbong]

65. Now I understand

Now I understand the speed with which the PTB are chaining down America, increasing the pro-business propaganda, and stealing all the money including Social Security.

They are getting scared of the "rabble". They probably got secret fact sheets from the CIA months ago predicting the populist upheavals all over the world.

[Catherina]

67. My thoughts throughout this, and Tunisia, is Lieberman's internet kill switch

Thoughts like yours.

Hungry rabble. You'd think they'd learn, after so many centuries, not to let the rabble get hungry. What greedy fools.

[Catherina]

69. Suez out of control, street wars, lots of casualties in the street

fishsnorkel RT @marmite_news: AlJazeera reports: Suez is out of control, street wars, lots of casualties in the streets. #Egypt #Jan25 via @tololy half a minute ago via HootSuite



RamyYaacoub RT @AnonymousIRC: More contestants for the Balls of Steel award: http://t.co/9kdMvSH #Jan25 #Egypt #OpEgypt half a minute ago via Tweet Button



# Fqmd0ed2_normal MKMaksoud RT @amgadmakarem: Here s a copy of president Mubarak's Bank Statement from Barclays Bank in England! http://twitpic.com/3toqwt #jan25 #egypt #whereisourmoney half a minute ago via web


# Untitled-1_normal elaimy RT @AmmarMa: الأمم المتحدة تدعو مصر للإستجابة لمطالب المتظاهرين #Jan25 UN urges Egypt to respond to the protesters' demands. half a minute ago via web

[Catherina]

71. Friday prayers are banned, mosques closed in central #Cairo, real bullets, video

# Work_normal cliosguy RT @JPBarlow: RT @tololy: Friday prayers are banned, big mosques closed in central #Cairo to prevent gathering. #Jan25 #Egypt less than a minute ago via Twittelator


# 60212 blooperrboom RT @Sarahngb: (translated) RT @ mtwfeeq: Demonstrators now succeeded in removing gate of Ministry of Foreign Affair building!! # Egypt # jan25 half a minute ago via YoruFukurou


# N597240423_4603282_2151_normal maykosba real bullets and blood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8GnQ0tGsBI #Jan25 #Protests #Egypt #share less than 20 seconds ago via web (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8GnQ0tGsBI)


_a_cosgrove RT @gr33ndata: On CNN, they were discussing worst case scenario. Their two main problems're any possible Suez Canal blockage & Islamic govt in Egypt #Jan25 half a minute ago via HootSuite


hilalchouman RT @RawyaRageh: Suez is now the real flashpoint in #Egypt after the #Jan25 protests began half a minute ago via web


# Phone_normal MariusSmith RT @abeersaady: @jmcesteves #Egypt journos sit-in at police station succeeds in securing release of a 200 detained protesters. #Jan25 half a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®


# Joe_normal josephwillits Suez police station burning down http://bit.ly/fu2mCr #Egypt #jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via web


# Default_profile_4_normal alielant RT @ArabRevolution: RT @MoroccanTales #Mubarak you have 48 hours to pack your bags OR we will pack them for you on Friday #1millionegyptians #jan25 #Egypt half a minute ago via twidroyd

[Iterate]

74. A livestream from Cairo -wrong/nevermind

Edit: It wasn't up and running after all.

It's 3am+ there now and they still seem to be keeping the police busy. I have the feeling that Suez is the real story for the moment, and we may not know for some time what has happened there.

Thanks for all of your hard work!! especially in the past few months.

[Catherina]

76. The protestors intent is to keep the police up all night

then all day tomorrow again so that the police is tired out by Friday when they have the big protest after prayers.

Mubarak is closing the mosques in Central Cairo on Friday and banning public prayer. As IF that's going to stop people.

What's the link for your livestream? It'll be handy tomorrow and Friday, if it doesn't get yanked.

From what I read, Suez is in bad shape right now. Over 55 demonstrators wounded. Police station burned down. Gotta protect that canal at all costs. Without it, the war effort will be hampered.

[Iterate]

80. This one.

It's pretty late here and I had myself convinced for a dozy moment that this site -

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cairodowntown

was back up. They had streamed the day before.

I remember a C3 conference from 2009 where one of the presenters commented that when a government tries to block internet, twitter, and texting, it's the best indication of all that they've lost control of the situation. And if they can be kept off balance, the game is over. The tweets and video from Suez seemed to show that the government has both lost control and at least temporarily withdrawn from some parts of the city.

I guess we'll see just how brutal Mubarak thinks he can afford to be and still maintain a modern state. He's probably already been at that limit for some time and was too blind to see it.

Meanwhile, Clinton says it's time for Mubarak to reform.

Really, those people should just buy a fucking clue.

[Catherina]

81. Thank you. Bookmarked.

Don't mention Hillary tonight. She's not faring well. Last year's quote about Mubarak being family to her isn't playing out too well in the Middle East. Fucking clues, 2 for $5.

[blondeatlast]

77. Thanks for the reports! Amazing pictures, too--sad that it must come to this,

but the people will be heard (as they should).

[Catherina]

78. See what happens. You disappear for a few days and all hell breaks loose!

Welcome back :hi:

[EFerrari]

79. Outstanding. Thank you, Catherina!

[Catherina]

82. You're welcome, I'm fascinated. The latest tweets. Palace dogs.

3beee RT @ArabRevolution: Egypt's police. Egypt's police? You are merely dogs of the palace! #Jan25 #EgyChants via \@3beee less than 20 seconds ago via web



StraightDeuces RT @tololy: Electricity ,transportation, communications cut off in central #Cairo. Another attempt to isolate protesters #Jan25 #Egypt via @rassdwehda

# The_castle__at_geihinkan_normal litdreamer RT @jan25live: #jan25 #egypt The government cut electricyt, communications and transportation from the center of Cairo completely. less than a minute ago via jan25live



# 16234_200710928403_606993403_3020941_5561572_n_normal fairuz_online RT @jan25live: R.N.N riots police officer joins the protesters http://goo.gl/gfqo4 #jan25 #egypt less than a minute ago via jan25live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUc1MXmvrRw)



I didn't know this but, that picture we all love so much?


# 38727_1450384453490_1049581633_31417036_5265337_n_normal emadlotfy RT @AlyaaGad: In front of the presidential palace. The sign says: Go, Leave, depart #Egypt #Jan25 less than 20 seconds ago via web

:hi:

[northamericancitizen]

84. Thank you so much for all the links & pics.

Can I follow you on twitter ?

[Catherina]

85. That's very flattering but one small problem

I'm not on twitter. But if you want to follow what I've been following, here's the link

http://fr.twitter.com/search?q=suez%20egypt%20Jan25#search?q=egypt%20Jan25 for keywords Egypt Jan25 Refresh often. It will tell you at the top.

You can also use the google aggregator (thanks Turborama) http://www.google.com/search?tbs=mbl:1&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=705&q=egypt&btnG=Search#q=egypt&hl=en&biw=990&bih=726&prmdo=1&prmd=ivnsum&source=lnms&tbs=mbl:1&ei=mQpBTd_DIcnPgAeEyNzwAg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=6&ved=0CB4Q_AUoBQ&fp=a187a43dd5564fd1

The tweets aren't coming in very quickly right now. I think they'll pick up in 2-3 hours.


You can change the keywords.

I almost wish I were on twitter! Thank you

[TomClash]

83. kick and rec

Great pics - saw them on der spiegel earlier today.

[Catherina]

88. Makes me wish Life Magazine were still around. n/t

[TomClash]

107. True

The Boston Globe isn't half bad.

[EFerrari]

86. Anon took out some government websites.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1614778.php/Egyptian-government-websites-down-after-hacker-threat-Extra

[Catherina]

87. Great! They need to take this one down. Talk about propaganda

http://www.sis.gov.eg/En/Default.aspx

FM spokesman: Demonstrations not New Phenomenon

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hossam Zaki said Tuesday 25/1/2011 that protests were not a new phenomenon. Hossam Zaki told CNN that all demonstrators were protected by the police. But he regretted the death of an Egyptian soldier after being beaten by protestors.

...

Zaki said that the margin of freedom in Egypt is unprecedented in the region and in all Arab countries.

The spokesman stressed that the protestors were not harassed or killed in the streets, in contrary to the situation in other countries. "Therefore, the situation in Egypt is totally different," he added.

...

The spokesman refused to compare Egypt with other countries."The circumstances and conditions are different at the economic and political levels as well as the scale of freedom," Zaki said.

...

http://www.sis.gov.eg/En/Story.aspx?sid=53466

Interior Ministry Urges Protestors not to be Deceived by False Slogans


Interior Ministry Habib el-Adli appealed to protestors not to be deceived by false slogans. A security source said that the ministry has allowed protesters to express political or social demands in line with the principles of democracy and freedom of expression.

Despite the inflammatory approach taken by the instigators for the January 25 rally, topped by the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, Kifaya and 6 April movements and the National Association for Change, the ministry has allowed the protests, which took place in Cairo, Giza, Alexandria and Gharbiya, said the source.

The source said police forces secured the protests and did not clash with the protesters, despite attempts by some persons in downtown Cairo to stage marches, which completely disrupted the traffic flow.

...

http://www.sis.gov.eg/En/Story.aspx?sid=53457

:wow:

[EFerrari]

89. Sounds like Baghdad Bob.

:)

The sites that are down seem to be Communications and IT.

[Catherina]

90. Much worthier targets!

I highly doubt anyone's paying attention to the State Information Service.

Don't you ever sleep?

[EFerrari]

93. President's site is down.

:)

[EFerrari]

94. Link to protests inside US in support:

EgyptEagle Saladin
by 48thave
Complete list with demonstrations around #USA supporting #Egypt http://on.fb.me/hZhbB1

[Catherina]

95. I SO wanted to post that

but then I looked at the google cache and realized that wasn't much of a feat.


Edit. Forget it, I can't embed the link! Laughing over here.

[Name removed]

102. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Catherina]

91. US State twittering #Jan25 US, UK, UN Protest information Army in Suez?

TigerLily_Egypt RT @shadihamid: Interesting. US @StateDept is using #Jan25 hashtag #Egypt

(Here's an example #SecClinton: We support the universal rights of the Egyptian people, including freedom of expression. http://go.usa.gov/YZ9 #Egypt #Jan25 about 9 hours ago via web )


BleuZ00m RT @draddee: "Mubarak now realise that retirement at last beckons" - Guardian editorial http://bit.ly/fxtyhU #Egypt #Jan25 A must read 1 minute ago via TweetDeck


7azemkovh U.S. shifts tone, bluntly urges Mubarak to reform now 'abi3 ya basha abi3' #Egypt #Jan25 #Cairo http://reut.rs/gS0BHW half a minute ago via Snaptu


AminaIsmail RT @deena_adel: RT @litfreak: Locations of protests in support of #Jan25 and #Egypt in the US can be found here: http://t.co/COu6uOM 1 minute ago via Twitter for Android (Facebook)

hubrisking RT @alshaheeed: Protest infront of UN http://on.fb.me/g6to6Y and in London infront of embasy on Saturday supporting #Egypt #uprising #Jan25 half a minute ago via web


# Img02251-20101206-1632_normal Develink RT @arabist: TBC RT @moselim: Unconfirmed reports that the Egyptian Army has descended on #Suez streets. #Egypt #Mubarak 4 minutes ago via Echofon

[Tripod]

92. Thanks for the post-pictures. n/t

[Catherina]

96. You're welcome. Twitter link is here if you want to follow

http://fr.twitter.com/search?q=suez#search?q=egypt%20Jan25

I'm going to bed now. I hope Egyptian authorities exercise total restraint and that the US holds them to that because our image, as rotten as it is right now, is wobbling on a thin line.

[reggie the dog]

101. BBC radio reporting that suez protests went throught the night

and that people are still protesting this morning DESPITE increased police violence. BBC also said that large protests were expected across egypt today and friday

[florida08]

104. excellent thread..great links

have been following the reports on twitter. Just read report about Baradie

Egypt's Nobel price laureate Mohamed El Baradie will arrive in Egypt on Thursday to join demonstrations that are scheduled to take place after Friday prayers.

El Baradie's arrival might fuel more people to join the protests.

Thousands of Egyptian protesters took to streets on Tuesday in an unprecedented demonstration against the government.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-01/27/c_13710133.htm

Great work Catherina and everyone.

[eShirl]

105. msnbc.com's also reporting El Baradie is calling for Mubarak to resign, arriving Thursday

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41288680/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

CAIRO — Nobel Peace Prize winner Mohamed El-Baradei called Thursday for Egypt's president to "retire," as he prepared to return to his homeland where protests against Hosni Mubarak's 30-year rule were continuing despite mass arrests.

El-Baradei, who lives in Vienna, was due to arrive in Egypt Thursday and said he expected to join, but not lead, a major demonstration Friday.

"He (Mubarak) has served the country for 30 years and it is about time for him to retire," El-Baradei, former head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog, told Reuters shortly before he was due to leave Vienna for Cairo.

"Tomorrow is going to be, I think, a major demonstration all over Egypt and I will be there with them," he added, calling for peaceful protests.


-snip-

[florida08]

106. thanks

the Muslim brotherhood say they're joining Friday's protests as well..posted link under Turborama's thread

[era veteran]

108. And so it starts, has been coming for a while

Great Pics

[Hubert Flottz]

113. I believe that the people around the world will throw off the yoke...

of globalization.

Edit...I hope so.

[BOG PERSON]

114. "Egypt's new suez crisis"

The violent epicenter of protests in Egypt is an industrial city few outsiders know much about: the seaport town of Suez, which sits astride the Suez Canal as it opens southward into the Red Sea.

Suez has seen its share of blood over the years. In 1967, the coastal town was nearly wiped out during the Six-Day War with Israel, and thereafter was the scence of sporadic guerilla fighting between the two sides. The canal remained closed for nearly eight years, reopening only in 1975.

In recent years, Suez has seen growing prosperity, sending billions in tax revunue from its factories and workers to the government in Cairo. But as in the rest of Egypt, that prosperity hasn't been widely shared, leading to the same sort of dashed hopes that proved so explosive in Tunisia.

This week, Suez erupted in anger as protesters took to the streets to complain about economic conditions and their lack of freedom under Hosni Mubarak's government. It got ugly fast, with several deaths and reports of demonstrators hurling Molotov cocktails in response to a harsh police crackdown. (To get a feel for the chaos, check out journalist Ian Lee's gripping tweets from earlier today.)

Photographs of the mayhem are now coming out. Here are a few of the latest:

[mdmc]

115. ..