ExxonMobil Says WIND IS CHEAPEST!

[kpete]

ExxonMobil Says WIND IS CHEAPEST!

A view to 2030

http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/energy_outlook_view.aspx
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/28/939483/-ExxonMobil-says-wind-is-cheapest-form-of-electricity-generation

[dkf]

1. If the low frequency disturbances didn't occur with wind tech I'd be happier about it.

[Statistical]

2. Better title would be Exxon says wind is the cheapest in 2025 and with CO2 costs included.

As long as CO2 is free coal & gas are far "cheaper". Nobody is going to switch wholesale until CO2 costs are included to reflect the true costs of coal & gas.

[Dogmudgeon]

3. Uh-oh ... there's an asterisk ...

"* Wind and solar exclude costs for backup capacity and additional transmission"

--d!

[SoCalDem]

4. Duh...

But then who will pay the coal mine owners for all their dirty coal? and who will fund mega-billion dollar power plant folks like Duke, Reliant,Enron-esque others?

How will rail companies haul "wind" all over the country?

The big-bucks guys in suits have no real interest in us ever getting off coal, gas & oil until the last chunk of coal has been dug from the earth, & the last whiff of gas has been released & the last drop of oil has been sucked up

[hunter]

5. Of course they do. They'll be selling the dirty backup energy.

And having parties in the boardroom whenever the wind's not blowing.

[Zoeisright]

6. Why don't we put the REAL costs in that chart?

Like cleanup costs, pollution costs, deaths and illness costs. It would look very, very different. Solar and wind would be the least expensive.

[WinkyDink]

7. Migrating birds reply: "In what respect, Charlie?"

[Uncle Joe]

8. I wonder how many birds were killed by the Gulf Oil Gusher, not to

mention fish, dolphins, turtles, shrimp, crabs, oysters, and pretty much any other living thing in the contact area?

I wonder if the cost of that kind of destruction, not to mention economic damage was figured in their cost analysis?

[DCKit]

9. That CENTS per KWhr, folks.

And it looks like they're using "installed costs", not amortized.

Payback on a solar electric system is 7-14 years. Grid-tie is even less. From then on, the electricity is "free".

Regardless, even at $.15/KWhr + transmission costs, solar is competitive in several U.S. markets, and only hydro is less expensive, over time - and notice that hydro isn't even on the graph at $.05/KWhr.

[shireen]

10. oh great, now they'll be buying the air and charging us for it .... nt