One idea for a Revolution for Justice

[EnlightenedOne]

I suspect this thread will sink like a stone, but I was thinking of the issues on which the Progressives & Conservatives could agree on - and have a forum maybe (? (website) - I doubt that would work on DU, but maybe, just one forum where conservatives can post) to work on the issues that we can all agree on.

For Instance: Social Security/Medicare

I say WE THE PEOPLE demand that our Representatives in Congress & the Senate be forced to take a SUBSTANTIAL pay cut before they touch one dime of Social Security or Medicare. This is one sure-fire way to get them to back down. THEY take the first cut. Service to your country is supposed to be an honor, and if that is the case, and their purpose is to serve we the people, that prove it. Let it start with them.

Another Issue: Demand Trials for the Bankers/Wall Street Gang

Who purposefully, systimatcially destroyed the financial market.

I'm sure there are more - but we need a way to unite for now ONLY on the issues we can agree to take action on - and leave the things we disagree on alone, for now.

This is something even the laziest of us can do.

I also liked Bobbolink's idea of taking out newspaper ads - just like the rabbi's did against Glenn Beck. We should have a link where DU'ers can contribute to that cause and agree on the cause.

We can fight back - and I believe the Internet is our tool. Start petitions, etc., but I don't think it will have the intended outcome (justice) unless we can all come together.

So - is anyone interested? Can someone more industrious and with more time and talent start something like this?

[MineralMan]

1. No. Sorry. There is not common ground.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

2. Conservatives hate Wall Street bailouts and insurance mandates as much as progressives

So why not?

[EnlightenedOne]

3. Great.

1st comment is negative.

You're wrong. Do you really think the republicans are going to stand for cuts to their Social Security and Medicare?

I don't.

[OneGrassRoot]

4. There are reasonable conservatives...

Heck, they may call themselves conservatives but, when you really get into discussions, they realize many of their viewpoints are progressive.

We need to get beyond the labels in order to HAVE discussions.

I agree that most avid Tea Party members are not likely candidates for such discussions. Their worldview is different enough that they will refuse to find common ground -- even if it is there -- simply because.

When the site is back up (it's being upgraded now and is offline), a group can be created with this type of discussion being the focus at Wishadoo, if anyone is interested.

Basically, any type of group can be created there, so long as people are gathering with the ultimate goal of creating compassionate, cooperative communities. The wording of Wishadoo being about compassion, cooperation and community is enough to turn away the Tea Party types, most likely. Reasonable conservatives, however, are not likely to be turned away by those words.

People can gather in groups to discuss (and implement!!!) grassroots legislative ways to do this such as Bobbolink's idea, non-legislative grassroots efforts, etc.

:hi:

Edit to add I did Rec/but there are unrecs, too

[EnlightenedOne]

5. Your website would be excellent if this is something DU

didn't want or couldn't do. It would be great advertisement, especially if we are going to draw up petitions and we take out one page ads in the paper - signed by the people at ______________.

Thank you OGR!

People are out in the streets in these other countries and we Americans are just sitting here allowing ourselves to continue to get screwed.

[EnlightenedOne]

6. Come on People

WHAT is wrong with us?

THIS is proof that we don't or won't walk our talk. Look at the posts the threads on Tracy Morgan re Sarah Palin get, and some of the other BS - but when it comes to actually TAKING ACTION and MAKING A DIFFERENCE - eh, nobody really cares.

We have a tool at our disposal and OGR has offered her website. So who's in - or would you just rather sit and bitch while the rest of the world goes out risking life & limb for their rights? Its happening everywhere - Egypt, Ireland, Yemen, etc., and we spoiled rotten Americans just sit here.

We can utlize the Internet to start our own revolution, I mean, if we really want to and if we really care. Or not.

Are we all just really going to sit "it" out and let Obama do all the work alone - and then bitch when we don't get our way? The Leaders will follow when the people lead, but not until then. Its up to us - we're either going to get that, or die as victims in front of our TV & couches.

Its your choice.

So, who is interested? Anyone??

[chowder66]

7. How about corruption?

[EnlightenedOne]

8. Well, sure, that's an idea

but we'll need to be very specific in our goals - one at a time that we put all of our energy and resources in.

Seems like SS/Medicare are the current hot-button issue.

Jobs of ocurse - but I'm not sure how a group of people on a website can affect that change.

I'd like a concerted effort to align with Al Sharpton and get Rush Limbaugh off the federal airwaves.

I'd like to go after Faux Noise (in unison with the rabbi's).

If we were united and grew - we could certainly eventually demand justice for the financial scam peptrated on this country too.

Its going to take alot of us, and apparently, there is little to zero interest here in actually DOING anything.

[MrMickeysMom]

9. I think we maybe need to keep asking ourselves this question...

Sooner or later, it's gonna matter to someone who calls themselves "conservatives". You have valid points.

Asking posters on this forum if they think there is common ground on certain issues is going to get poor return. Many people don't want to weigh in and others really DON'T KNOW. For goodness sakes, the generation above me who liked Ike were WAY more to meet that common ground.

So why the hell would some conservatives do that now? It's because it's all crazy in the Republican Party... split down the middle with tea baggers spinning around on the floor flailing their arms spitting up. It's that crazy.

If you know people in your community, and I do, who have the "R" after their party choice, and they have common feelings on this... you'd be in good position to do something, wouldn't you?

But, it's easier to rant and bitch and far more difficult to do...

I like what you have to say, but I can honestly say you won't get enough cats herded here to do what you want to do. Perhaps this is something we can all do locally, since there are more chances to gather that cause under those circumstances.

[leftstreet]

10. There's very little representation of actual 'conservatives' on the interwebz

The freeper type sites are essentially troll holes...so over the top in spouting their rightwing talking points, they're downright funny. So when you ask members here about inviting 'conservatives' the first reaction might be OMG!

I think you've got a great idea, by the way. Sadly, the Political Class have a strong interest in keeping us believing in a mythical left v right so the task before you is huge