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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:45 PM
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Talking with a co-worker who grew up in Egypt...
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 12:47 PM by snooper2
He was telling me how he remembers Mubarak coming to power when he was a kid. Hopefully Saudia is next...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:47 PM
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1. I did not grow in the region but yes... it will spread from Yemen north
(that is saudi Arabia)

Wait for Syria to have some fun too.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:48 PM
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2. Have you seen any good pieces on what this means for us and the world?
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 12:51 PM by dkf
Edit: I just saw your post on Egypt. Will read.

Thanks.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 01:24 PM
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5. Syria has already tightened restrictions and there is one report it is shut down...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 02:13 PM
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6. As expected let the people get any ideas
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 02:26 PM
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8. As someone who has family in Syria
I hope Assad remains there forever. Sorry, but we'll take a benevolent dictator over the chaos that is Iraq or Iranian style Islamic theocracy any day. I know I've argued in other posts re: Egypt that this is not always the case, but Egypt and Syria are two different situations. The collapse of the Syrian government would look more like Iraq today. I don't see that happening in Egypt. There is already a transitional figure-head prepared to take over -- Baradei enjoys wide-spread support in Egypt and would provide leadership, sealing off any power vacum. The same is not true for Syria; it would be a blood-bath.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 02:41 PM
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10. At this time, Iraq is not a thoecracy...and was not during Sadam's rule.
Nor is there evidence that the current winds of revoultion will bring in a wave of Islamic theocracys. The dictatorial regeims across the middle east tolerate and encouraged by the U.S. or other Western powers have brought us to this point. Seeing them continue into the indefinite futre will not make things better.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 03:04 PM
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12. I'd expect a few to become theocracies
as a way to cleanse the country of all vestiges of colonialism. Another way to do that is to go Communist. Neither system is stable long term.

Saudi is a separate case. It's a theocratic monarchy, so it will be fascinating what happens when they finally topple the Wahab royals.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:53 PM
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3. I was thinking about this last night
and wondering if Obama's speech to the Muslim world was the seed.

When a country or a group of people are against someone or wary of them (US), then they tend to unite.

If the common danger is gone, then they are probably more open to looking inward to their own issues. Also, if they see someone not exactly of their kind, but more similar, reaching out to them than say Bushes, etc, then they may feel less fearful. Don't know - possibly amateur psychology on my part.

But the bankers certainly helped with the economic mess (thank GWB) and probably WikiLeaks helped, as well.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 02:13 PM
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7. Nah this is far more local than a speech
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 02:28 PM
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9. It has been local for more than 30 years.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 02:46 PM
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11. What we are seeing is widespread discontent with autocratic regeims...
where people glimpsed the rest of the world as through a window. It may be the INTERNET that did more to start the pot boiling. We also can not forget that the economy that has caused problems here hurt many of these countries even more. You have a large, young, unemployed population who glimpsed something better.

In fact, these revolutions resemble what happened on the streets of Tehran last year. It failed in Tehran. We will see if that same result happenes elsewhere.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 04:07 PM
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13. Agreed.
The South African riots were spear-headed by the youth as well.

Hopefully, it does not end like Iran.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 12:53 PM
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4. Yes, I remember when Sadat was assassinated about this time in 1981.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 12:53 PM by SharonAnn
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