BanzaiBonnie
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Sat Jan-29-11 11:42 AM
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How do we let the Egyptian people know |
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There are so many of us who would stand with them. Our hearts are with you.
We are watching their amazing action to stand up for justice. Our leaders are being "political" rather than REAL. Any of our leaders who claim to love democracy and denounce this action by the people are false. Bolton is one.
The world is watching.
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Sat Jan-29-11 11:44 AM
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1. This facebook site is helpful for that I think...K&R...... |
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Sat Jan-29-11 11:44 AM
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2. Post on Al Jazzeera message boards |
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Let them know, we stand with them...
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Sat Jan-29-11 12:00 PM
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3. Can you point me to such a place? |
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I've been watching Al Jazzeera live for days now. I looked, but did not find message boards.
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Sat Jan-29-11 12:19 PM
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Sat Jan-29-11 12:11 PM
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4. You'll "stand with them"? |
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This kind of post makes my head ache.
What on god's green earth makes you think politics isn't REAL? Only mob violence is real? Only looting is real? People are dead, more will die. That's fucking real.
Who is it you think is going to run Egypt next year? WHO? Let me know when you sit down to write a treaty with a mob.
Mubarak is out. We found that out today when he appointed a Veep. He hasn't had one for thirty years because it's the succession post. It used to be his job. Now it belongs to his former head of intelligence. No way in hell he could make that appointment without the military. So THEY have decided.
But the mob doesn't like it. So this may get very bloody. OTOH, the people rather like their military, so it may be smoother than we think.
Revolution is serious. "Standing with them" means being willing to die with them. Americans have done it. The Abraham Lincoln Brigade fought in the Spanish Civil War. They fought and died with the people of Spain. Is that really what you meant? Because, if so, you need to start looking into travel arrangements.
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BanzaiBonnie
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Sat Jan-29-11 01:37 PM
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6. And you think that I would not if I was there? |
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I would be on the streets with them if I was in Egypt. I have other means of being with them and standing with them. Beyond the figurative. And I'm not speaking of anything physical or likely what you would call real. There is a lot more.
It's okay, I forgive you. I forgive myself.
This is not theater. And beyond what we see and discern as far as motivations and behind the scene action, my concern is always, who's pulling the strings.
I say no to totalitarian regimes and I pray that our government isn't in this up to their eyeballs.
And if you cannot see individual people in that mob I feel sorry for you. There is pain and death and yes it's real. But thirty years of pain and death waiting, is real too. And when the ruling class cannot see their way to make change, it will come rolling through the streets in the form of a mob.
My bet is that looting gets started when agent provocateurs get their hands in the mix. When people are angry it's like setting the match to the tinder.
And I think you've misunderstood what I meant about politics. I'm having difficulty typing through this. Of course politics is real.
I'm seeking a better way. One in which people's needs are met through nonviolence. And truth. And there is politics in the best sense and there is politics in the worst sense. Too often, politics is about playing one hand against the other.
I remember when I first began studying the history of the Great Britain. I was aghast at the machinations of political intrigue. It's ugly beyond belief. I was naive then and am probably naive now, but I truly believe that the ends don't justify the means.
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Sat Jan-29-11 02:23 PM
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10. tsk tsk, let the grown-ups handle it. |
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They know best and they will navigate us through the center of storm and deliver us into a system of fairness and equality.
Wait, what?
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Sat Jan-29-11 02:02 PM
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Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 02:05 PM by johnroshan
Is that how you see this movement in Egypt? I see this as oppressed people standing up for their rights against a dictator. Yes, there will be violence and blood. The people did not choose to do it, the government chose it when they decided to oppress the common man.
“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” ~~ Frederick Douglass
Standing with them doesn't only mean going there and joining them on the streets. When we speak in support of the people, in the media, to our representatives in our government, all this creates a wave of moral courage and support to those poor people. At the same time it also shows the dictator that the world is watching and that we care not about him or his government, but about the people.
You would've made a wonderful voice for reconciliation with England during American Independence. You seem to like order and discipline over justice and freedom.
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Sat Jan-29-11 02:24 PM
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within the system and screwing the masses = Good Screwed people demanding it stop = Bad
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Sat Jan-29-11 02:06 PM
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8. How do we let the Egyptian people know we stand with them? By |
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applying immense pressure on our government to stand with them and not with Mubarak.
Without public pressure, you know darn well our government would continue to prop up Mubarak.
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Sat Jan-29-11 02:20 PM
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area commonly referred to as Wall St. Five days of people preventing Lloyd Blankfein from doing God's work and I suspect someone will try to draw our blood.
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Sat Jan-29-11 03:26 PM
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12. Good question. Thanks for asking... |
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