A little over a month ago, I posted about a neighbor shooting & killing the dog next door. well

[moobu2]

His wife came out a little while ago, while I was digging in my garden 15 feet from their property line, and told screamed at me that she had spoken to a lawyer and she wanted this "shit" moved 2 feet over from the property line. I have some plants *hedges etc0 a little close, I guess that is what she was talking about. Don't know really. I didn't respond because she caught me off guard and she was upset etc... But any time I ever did anything near their property, I always brought it up to them and asked if they minded....they always said they didn't until now.

Anyway, I've lived here for 10 years and never had a cross word with any of them, so I guess this is retaliation for me calling the police of her husband and his father for torturing and killing this poor dog next door last month.

I tried to explain the scene in my original post as dispassionately as possible, because it was much much much more gruesome in person and would have been to hard to read I think.

This is my original post about this indecent last Dec. 22.

My neighbor shot my other neighbors dog 3 times today, killed it - and it was perfectly legal.
After the first shot, I ran outside to see what was going on, and neighbor #1 had a pistol and had shot neighbor #2's dog once in the back. I noticed the dog was bleeding and running around the yard while neighbor #1 was aiming his gun again. I asked him why he was shooting the dog since the dog was in it's own yard and nothing looked out of place and he said the guy (neighbor #2) had asked him to shoot the dog for him, but at that time, no one was home. So, I told neighbor #1 that I was calling the police. He shot the dog again right in front of me and blew half the dogs face off and the poor dog was still trying to hide behind some bushes looking at me....it was awful, its lips hanging off, face ripped out and scared shitless. neighbor #1 went back in his house and came back with a some sort of rifle and shot the dog again finally killing it.

When the police arrived, I explained the situation and thought there would be some sort of animal cruelty violation, but the police informed me that since neighbor #1 did have permission, what he did was perfectly legal. The dog was a sweet sweet playful submissive dog with no aggression that I ever saw whatsoever. I petted it over its fence all the time. damn I'm sick about it.


Link to that post

Looks like I'm in for god knows what sort of retaliation from these inbred hillbilly's. But, I had no idea you could do that to a dog and it not be illegal. Wish I could get the law changed here somehow.

[hlthe2b]

1. Did you discuss this with the local humane society...

or even the regional/local chapter of the national humane society? I ask, because it is not unheard of for police to be woefully ignorant of animal cruelty law or to have individual officers that take it less seriously and thus refuse to pursue the matter. Just asking....

If nothing else, I hope you might have a sit down discussion with your local state representative or city/county commissioner to see if any new state law or local ordinance can be enacted.


That said, I know how discomforting it can be to have neighbors who are not only unpleasant, but questionably cable of "unhinged" behavior or even violence. I had a woman screaming horrific things at me and my dog from two blocks away, because I walked by her and her dog rather than crossing the street to avoid them as she was screaming that I had to do. Seems she has a typical little Westie Terrier with "little dog issues" that barks and snaps at other dogs that go by and she can't control him. (Not asking, mind you... Not apologizing for her inability to control her dog, but screaming at us as though we had created the problem) My dog is well trained and simply ignores these dogs and I simply give them plenty of space and move my dog off the sidewalk towards the street-- on the far side of them, with me in between-- as we walk by. Never a problem, but this woman thought the entire world should bend to her demands. While I ignored her, I still had to bear the indignity of other people--perfect strangers wondering what I had done to deserve her cursing epithets. People like that can be set off so easily that I know one has to just ignore them, but damn, it is hard.


In your case, you have someone who has demonstrated violent cruelty towards dogs. I cringe to think what else they might be capable of.

My great sympathy for you and sadness for that poor dog.

[moobu2]

8. To your first questions

I first called the police and waited to talk to them thinking that what had just happened was a pretty serious crime. After the police found out that the owner conspired with the shooter (the shooter had permission) they immediately said that what they did was legal. I thought the policemen was just stupid or incompetent or both. I immediately turned around, went in my house and called the police supervisor on duty thinking that the policeman who responded needed correcting. The supervisor told me the same thing. That what the people did was legal..I was astonished, shocked etc... so, I called the local animal shelter and Mobile Animal Services and was told the people acted within the law. I called the Mobile SPCA and was also told the same thing...that you could use your dog for target practice, before you kill, it and it is perfectly legal. I am not kidding unfortunately.

[hlthe2b]

9. May I ask, what state this is?

Uggh...

[moobu2]

11. Alabama.

Unfortunately cant move away or I would.

[hlthe2b]

15. I empathize.

Maybe you could seek out the support of like-minded neighbors, in case things heat up...

[moobu2]

17. I just spoke to a neighbor who couldn't believe what happened and that it was legal etc..

and they had a few stories to tell me about the (dog killing) people too.


I'm thinking about starting a Facebook page about Blue, Blue was the dogs name, and see if I can get some interest and maybe post a petition or something. I don't know.

[hlthe2b]

22. In memory of Blue...

that would be nice.. maybe go viral in your area and lead to some changes in the laws. If nothing else it could lead to some education.

[moobu2]

24. I think I'm going to try that.

"In memory of blue" that sounds good too. Hey, this thread will die today, so search Facebook in a few days and check to see.

You know, what happened that day actually traumatized my dogs too. June Bug especially would not go outside in the yard after the incident, she and blue played with each other all the time, and she would go over a watch him a lot. I would say, "where's blue?" and June Bug would run over to look for him. I could see it clearly effected her. She went over to that side of the yard after it happened and looked for Blue every day for several weeks. Anyway.

edited to add..my dogs were outside when it happened and saw it too.

[Maru Kitteh]

39. I'll join it. Maybe it can become a movement to change the laws. That's unconscionable.

And barbaric.

[Make7]

2. God dammit. Why would anyone kill a dog by shooting it that way?

If there was some reason they felt the dog needed to be put down, there are much less brutal ways to go about it. I would have definitely called the police in your situation.

As far as the new situation with the property line, I would respectfully request that they have their lawyer come and talk to you in person. I would hope the lawyer would be professional and simply try to work out whatever the issue might be without all the emotional baggage of the previous issue and I am also quite certain a lawyer would charge them for any time spent mediating the property line situation.

Good luck, things like this between neighbors sometimes never go away...

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[MineralMan]

7. Really? Literally?

[get the red out]

12. Yes

[MineralMan]

21. How sad.

[get the red out]

30. Sad that I can feel? strange

[MineralMan]

31. I'm not going to get into discussing a deleted message. Sorry.

[southernyankeebelle]

4. Watch out. If he could kill a dog then I'd watch out.

[Cleita]

5. I didn't see your original post but you should contact

these people the Animal Legal Defense Fund here: http://www.aldf.org/ Tell them the story about the dog and that you are now being harassed by these people. I don't know if they will help you directly, but they might be able to put you in touch with people in your county who can help. Good luck.

On edit: We have a similar situation brewing here in my neighborhood also involving dogs and trashy neighbors although not as heart wrenching as your story. Fortunately, we have some good laws on the books regarding the dogs, however, the trashy family had been harassing the neighbor who reported them regarding their dogs running loose and biting people and other animals, so he has had to get some surveillance equipment but I know your problem needs a different solution.

[RagAss]

6. Personally, I'd stay away from them...and arm myself.

[Liberal In Texas]

10. If I were you there would be an 8 foot fence on the property line in my future.

These people sound like scum.

[NuclearDem]

13. Wow...I never saw the original post...

And I think I just got fucking sick reading about what they did to that dog...

Christ, if you want to put a dog down, have the Humane Society put it to sleep, and if you REALLY have to fucking shoot it, make sure it dies on the first shot! :cry:

That shit's sick, and they need to be punished for it.

[Swede]

14. Can you sell and move?

Nothing is worth living next these armed and dangerous neighbours.

[moobu2]

20. I cant sell right now, no

I'll be alright. I'm just going to carry on my life, and try not to let them bother me to much. Matter of fact, I'm going to work in my garden in a little while.

I did call the police and tell them what the woman did this morning, so there would at least be a record. Police told me to call back Monday because no one was in the office to take a report over the phone right then etc..

[Obamanaut]

16. I am so glad we have nice neighbors. I live on a dead end road, and the lots

are 4 acres each.

The guy next to me is only home on weekends, and not even every weekend. Last summer he fenced his entire yard, and put a really big gate in the side toward my house. I asked him why, and he told me in case I needed to get into his yard for any reason when he wasn't home, because the front gate is locked. Last summer he asked if I'd pick all his squash and okra during the week (while he was gone)and give it to whoever needed/wanted some.

The guy across the road built an elderly-friendly house about four years ago, because none of his siblings wanted their mom living with them. Shortly before the construction was finished, he asked Mz O (she was still in rehab from a motor scooter accident, and not yet walking all that well) to come and test it out to see what might need to be modified.

That same guy came over to check on us one day because we had not talked with our daughter in several days, so she texted him to give a check. I had just spoken with him the evening before, but he came anyway because the daughter asked him to.

He has a deer feeder in his back yard, with a camera set up at night to capture photos of wildlife. Edited to add - no guns, just camera.

I am so sorry you don't have neighbors like mine.

[patrice]

18. Honestly, there's nothing to be done with people like that, so you have to either acquiesce as much

as possible, without causing yourself undue harm or inconvenience, or LEAVE. You have to ask yourself what you're willing to give up to stay.

I AM SOOO SORRY THIS HAS HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOUR HOME!!!

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[revolution breeze]

23. Ignore her.

If she had really talked to a lawyer, I am certain the lawyer would have told her to put all compaints in writing and make sure she had verification you had recevied them, not told her to go scream at you like a banshee.

[moobu2]

25. true.

[Lint Head]

26. By law you have a right to have plants right own your property line.

It's when your built a permanent structure that is the problem.

[moobu2]

27. That's what I thought.

I do have a shed down there, but it's been there for nearly a decade and they've never mentioned it matter of fact I talked to them before I built it just to see if they had any concerns AND I talked to them after it was built and they liked it they said. The only other thing was some boxwood hedges that might be growing a little bit through their fence. I'll have to look. She never mentioned exactly what it was so I can only guess. It might be that shed though.

Maybe I'll find out what it was she thought was to close, but I didn't want to talk to her today to find out because she was upset.


After she said all that, I thought I remembered something about their fence mentioned on my property survey, being built on my property so I took a look. Sure enough, their fence is built on my property a slight bit. I never mention it to them though.

[dpbrown]

72. General property law is that your plants can go right up to the property line and beyond

If the plants extend into the space of the adjacent owner, that owner can trim back the branches or the roots to the property line. That's just general law, there could be something more specific in your jurisdiction that changes that.

As to the fence being built on your property, I would point to the general property theory of adverse possession to provide you a slight caution. If you don't make the neighbors move their fence to be on their own property, then there is a possibility that they could eventually own the property they are encroaching upon now.

And with them being such perfect asses, requiring them to move their fence would be some small just dessert.

What a horrid story about that dog.

[xchrom]

28. i would definitely talk to my other neighbors.

these people are crazy.

[revolution breeze]

32. Yes, kind of like a neighborhood watch

To keep an eye on the kooky neighbors.

[xchrom]

35. I think that's entirely reasonable.

Shooting that dog like that is a threat to every one around them.

[revolution breeze]

49. I agree wholeheartedly.

We had one of our neighborhood teens go off on a neighbor and make some serious threats. The kid had just found out that his abusive "father" was in actuality not his "real" father and other factors made an already troubled kid just snap. Anyway, Greg told us of the threats and we and other neighbors decided it was a good idea to make extra checks on Greg "just in case". Thankfully, our neighbor John caught kid goiing into Greg's window at 3 a.m. with a crowbar and no one was hurt. The kid was arrested but at Greg's insistence did not go to jail but went to a treatment facility. We have since decided a neighborhood watch should be in place at all times and have become very active watching out for one another.

[Doremus]

29. OMG

Do NOT let your dog outside without you being there, please!

These people are dangerous. If you can afford it you need to get 1) a tall privacy fence, and 2) a surveillance camera.

What they did should have been a crime, and indeed would have been considered such in many other places. In this area the shooter would have been charged for discharging a firearm in the city AND animal cruelty.

Most important is to protect yourself and your beloved pet. Do not delay --- PLEASE.

[Taitertots]

33. Repeatedly calling the police and harassing them for legal behavior

Who would be surprised if they try to find something that you are doing that they can go after you for.

How dare those "inbred hillbilly(s)" follow the law and expect you to do the same?

[LisaL]

36. WTF are you talking about?

[Violet_Crumble]

41. I'd like to know as well, but I suspect that was a hit & run post...

I got a very strong impression that the person who posted that can't see anything at all wrong with what those scumbags did to that dog, and that it's a warning for anyone who calls the police that the police aren't actually there to do their job, but to form a vigilante gang and go out after people the poster thinks are wasting the cops time. Oh, and Waah Fucking Waaah. They're not the slightest bit upset by what was done to that poor dog, but they're upset someone called those sick fucks inbred hillbillies. What a fucked up sense of right and wrong some people have...

[Taitertots]

45. Read this thread and the thread about the previous incident n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

46. I've read both threads and yr going to need to explain what you meant...

And why on earth would you get all upset about those nasty fuckers being called inbred hillbillies and not express a shred of concern about what those inbred hillbilly fuckwits did to that poor dog?

[Taitertots]

47. Obviously you didn't

Otherwise you wouldn't have such a non sequitur response to my post.

"And why on earth would you get all upset about those nasty fuckers being called inbred hillbillies"
Why on earth do you think that? Especially since I've said no such thing.

[Violet_Crumble]

51. I did read them both...

See, cruelty to animals really upsets me, and that one was so horrific that I recall clearly that original thread. If you don't want to explain what you meant in yr post, that's fine, but be aware that I'm not the only DUer taking away the very negative impression that I got from yr comments.

Gosh, do you think that the give-away to let us all know you were upset about those inbred hillbilly fuckwits being called inbred hillbillies might be this? 'How dare those "inbred hillbilly(s)" follow the law and expect you to do the same?' I find it absolutely sickening that you think that if something's legal then it's somehow okay? If Alabama made it legal tomorrow to bash the shit out of women, you'd have the same response? If not, why not? Don't you realise or even care the pain and suffering that dog went through at the hands of those jerks? Why is it that you have a problem with someone calling the police when some inbred hillbilly yells demands at him over the fence?

[Taitertots]

53. And out comes the straw man non-sense

"Gosh, do you think that the give-away to let us all know you were upset about those inbred hillbilly fuckwits being called inbred hillbillies might be this? 'How dare those "inbred hillbilly(s)" follow the law and expect you to do the same?' I find it absolutely sickening that you think that if something's legal then it's somehow okay? If Alabama made it legal tomorrow to bash the shit out of women, you'd have the same response? If not, why not? Don't you realise or even care the pain and suffering that dog went through at the hands of those jerks? Why is it that you have a problem with someone calling the police when some inbred hillbilly yells demands at him over the fence?"
Where do I start with this load?
The straw man bullshit accusing me of supporting beating women.
The straw man bullshit accusing me of being upset that the OP author called her neighbors childish names. It is quite clear that you are hallucinating this, there is nothing in any of my posts to support this.
The straw man bullshit accusing me of thinking that everything that is legal is "okay".


Repeatedly calling the police on someone when you should know they are not breaking any laws is certain to get those people looking for ways to catch you breaking the law.

[Violet_Crumble]

54. It'd help if you could actually answer any of the questions yr being asked...

Speaking of strawmen, you weren't accused of supporting beating women. You were asked a question using a scenario that by yr logic with the dog situation would lead to the same conclusion. I asked you if you didn't think it would be okay just coz it's legal to explain why, and you haven't done so...

You clearly are upset that the OP called the lunatics inbred hillbillies. You've objected far more to that (eg now saying the OP is calling them childish names) than you have to a dog being killed in such a cruel and inhumane way....

Why on earth should someone know that it's legal to allow a neigbour to kill a dog in a slow and inhumane manner? That's absolutely ridiculous. The OP is well within their rights and being very wise to notify the cops when the neighbours kick off with whatever inbred hillbilly fuckwittery they want to shriek over the fence. And how do you know in advance what their neigbours might do is legal or not? You seem to be very keen to defend those monsters...

[joshcryer]

55. Um, it was entirely dependent on the police officer who came.

The guy was breaking a law when he shot an animal, had a police officer been more sympathetic to the dog he could have had the guy arrested. Simple.

[Taitertots]

56. Cite the law n/t

[LisaL]

61. How should he have known they are not breaking any laws?

Do a simple google search. Plenty of articles on people being charged with animal cruelty for shooting dogs. So, do tell how he should he have known that shooting a dog is perfectly legal where he lives?

[lepus]

74. Understand that I do love dogs.

In quite a few states it is perfectly legal to shoot dogs. In fact, under the proper circumstances in my own state, I can make a dog owner shoot his own dog or go to jail.

I have put down several strays before. People have this bad habit of abandoning dogs that do not fit their lifestyle. The dogs may have grown too big, be an outside breed, clash with the curtains, etc. The problem is that they dump them off in the country on the assumption that fluffy will either find a good home or be able to survive in the wild.

We do not have big "Dog disposal site" signs in our yards and are not in the dog ranching business. Those dogs are not our problems. Most of us already have all the dogs we can handle. When forced, we have a habit of solving problems with animals with a firearm. That two cent stray is not worth the cost of an eight hundred dollar cow and barely worth the cost of a bullet. A dog that runs cattle is a dead dog, even if it is my own.

That being said, I have no major issues with the dog shooting itself, just how piss poor it was carried out.

Praise the dog, pet it, make it happy. A slice of bologna tossed on the ground will fix the dogs attention and give proper aspect to it's skull so that when the dog is shot, it is instant death. There is nothing worse than an animal dying in fear and pain.

[Iris]

37. OP said nothing about repeated calls to the police.

wtf is wrong with people?

[Taitertots]

42. It is not in the OP it is further into the thread, and the original thread n/t

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[supernova]

How does the dog owner neighbor feel?

Did they ask the gun totin' one to shoot it? Did they want to press charges? Or are they OK with it and did indeed ask him to shoot it?

[sammytko]

75. I believe the dog owner asked the guy to shoot it instead of

taking it to get euthanized. The shooter didn't just go out and shoot the dog for sport.

[supernova]

34. Dupe

[Jokinomx]

38. We are not a cilivized society....

I don't know how we actually made it this far.

I am sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope you don't have deep roots in the home you live in.... I would seriously be looking for a new place to live.

However that is me.

A webpage in honor of Blue would be a fitting memorial for him.

Peace

[grahamhgreen]

40. OMFG. I have no idea what to say.

Beware, you may suffer from some mild PTSD....

I find the story horrific.

[superduperfarleft]

44. My advice would be to never let your dogs out unsupervised with these people around.

I've known rednecks like this, and they're not above shooting your dogs in some half-baked "omg they're coming right for us!" kind of thing.

But if you can, move. Feuds with crazy hick neighbors rarely end well.

[XanaDUer]

48. Holy fucking shit

I am shaking in rage about what one set of freaks allowed another set of freaks to do to an innocent dog. I am sure even more is going on there - do they have kids? I hope not. :scared:

Sigh...watch out. I mean, these are sick psychoes you are living near, and you seem like a lovely decent person. Arm yourself. I don't even like guns and am saying you will probably need to.

In once dealing with a scary, cursing, animal-hating neighbor, I found setting up a camera very, very helpful. You'd be surprised how many people don't ever think they are on camera. Nothing like showing a cop/judge Mr./Ms. Neighbor cursing and screaming and threatening (this particular nut threatened to kill my dog and we explained that it would be one of his last acts on Earth. We said that calmly. He freaked out.)

Wow.

EDIT - having read the above exchange, our animal-hating cursing threatening screaming neighbor was a low-class piece of hillbilly excrement. Oh, and he was a racist, too. He tried to circulate a petition that we all call the cops right away if any Black people came around the neighborhood. Oh, yeah.

[Trajan]

50. So .... You cannot grow any plants within 17 feet of somebody else's property line?

And so, therefore, if your property was 34 feet wide, between other lots, you cannot grow any plants whatsoever ?

How the fuck does that work ? ... Can you have grass ? .... Must you kill ALL botanical material within that 17 feet boundary ?

Do your neighbors have a 'plant free' perimeter 17 feet wide along their property lines ?

You know ? ... I was born a 'Yankee' near NYC, and lived 35 years in Los Angeles, and now live in the NW .... and I find these kind of crazy laws to be preposterous ...

My liberal mind cannot wrap around such hypocrisy and ignorance .... I could not set foot in the South, let alone live there ....


I do not mean this as a put down of southerners, because I know there is a Liberal contingency in the old south, and that they are vastly outnumbered by the right wing savages ...

I simply find the culture, of which this is reflective, to be unbearably brutal ....

Yeah ... The 'North' isn't much better at times, but I feel so much safer in NYC, or Boston, or Chicago, or Seattle, or in my current home, Portland.

[Violet_Crumble]

52. I don't believe the cops were correct in telling you it was legal...

What was done was animal cruelty, and in Alabama, it's a crime. It doesn't matter if the owner has given permission or done it themselves. I've googled and found some examples of where owners have tortured and tried to kill their dogs and this is one of them...

http://www.suite101.com/content/dog-named-gucci-made-animal-cruelty-a-felony-a218506

You need to get in touch with whatever the equivalent of the RSPCA is and find out for sure. If it's true that owners can give permission to do something that causes great suffering to a pet, then that law needs to be changed...

[moobu2]

57. Violet, I really think what happened crossed the legal line.

I mean, obviously what happened was animal cruelty, no doubt about it. But from what all I've learned in dealing with this, and talking to every agency I could think of, I think you can kill your own dog or give someone else permission to do it, here in Alabama. Once the owner gives the OK, then police just don't want to get involved. They treat it as a property issue and dogs are just another piece of property. If the bad guy had killed Blue (the dogs name) that way, or any way for that matter, without the owners permission, then police would have treated it as animal cruelty.

[Violet_Crumble]

59. I'm not sure what the law is elsewhere in the US...

I've never heard of a similar situation here in Australia, but I'm guessing the RSPCA would be all over them like a rash. I was actually mentioning to my kidlet the other night after watching a marathon session of Animal Cops - Miami, New York, Houston, Michigan etc, that I really admire the efforts made in the US to protect animals from cruelty and neglect. They're nearly as, but not quite as good as they are here. But I think I know now why I've never seen a show called Animal Cops - Alabama...

I wish you all the best in ignoring those idiots next door, and if there's anythign I can do in an online sense to help if you want to make people aware of the gap in Alabama's animal cruelty laws, let me know... :hug:

[LisaL]

63. I did a google search.

Found a number of articles about people charged after shooting dogs.

[Violet_Crumble]

65. I spotted a few of those as well...

The problem that mooboo's pointed out is they've been told by several agencies that it's only considered cruelty if the dog is killed without the owner's permission. It seems logical to me that if someone wants their dog dead (goodness knows why), they must take them to a vet who can euthanase them without any suffering or pain. But the way that dog was killed was cruel and inhumane, and I can't see how the fear and suffering it felt would have been any different than the dog who was hung from a tree and set on fire by some bible-basher unhappy that it damaged her Bible. I wish people like that as well as the dog owner who gave permission to kill the dog, could be put on a register of people who are never allowed to own a pet ever again...

[LisaL]

66. I found an article of a similar situation, where the guy was

charged with animal cruelty for shooting a dog with owner's permission (not in Alabama).

[LisaL]

67. This is the link. The guy charged with animal cruelty

for shooting a dog at the request of the owner (not in Alabama).
"It was evident that this dog went through a great amount of pain that could have been avoided," said Lt. Will Dawson in the release. "There are humane ways to put a dog down that is suffering, and they chose to take a less costly route at the dog's expense."
http://www.swtimes.com/week-in-review/news/article_b30ecb1a-205b-11e0-b5f1-001cc4c002e0.html

[Violet_Crumble]

68. Thanks for posting that. It's the exact same situation...

If there are any US states that don't classify that as animal cruelty, then a campaign needs to be started to get them to change their laws. And there should be a law making it illegal for tight-arse pet owners to ask friends and neighbours to kill them rather than take them to a vet who'd put them down humanely...

[LisaL]

69. I wonder if Alabama truly does not consider this animal cruelty,

or they have laws on the books, but just don't want to bother because dogs are considered property and the owner gave permission?

[XanaDUer]

78. I wonder that, too

There must be some standard. Let's say you want to get rid of kittens. You can do it by bringing them to a vet for a "humane" shot. Or, over an hour's time, dip said kittens in bleach. Okay - death is the result of both methods, but there has to be some cruelty standard here.

My guess is the cops just didn't want to get involved in this whole thing. But I'm not a lawyer.

I do thank the OP for, at least, trying to do something about this. S/he may need to really find out what the law is. All I know is - if they are doing this out in the open for anyone to see, Lord only knows what else is going on there. Ick. It's like living next to the Texas Chain Saw Massacre crew or something.

Hugs to the OP.

[pitohui]

58. yes you get involved w/ crap w. yr neighbors and they react, imagine that!

sorry, but if you thought somebody who killed a dog would "lay down" and not retaliate, you are living in a dream world

the time to make your decision about how much shit you were willing to take over a dog was before you called the police on your neighbor

pretty sure i said this at the time...

if you called the police on me, i would retaliate on you, ANY normal healthy human being would, i don't understand why you find this surprising

oh, because you're in the right, they're supposed to be wimps and just lay down and not fight back, sorry, people who are in the wrong are actually MORE likely to fight back and if you're over age 3, you should know that already

look, if you own your home instead of renting, i'm sorry, you have fucked up your life, if you rent, just start looking and move on, because sooner or later, they're gonna put you in a trickbag and i can't fully blame them, from their point of view, it's just proper reaction to the injustice you caused... you wanted to destroy a life and a home over a dog...

[Kaleva]

60. I must not be normal then...

a neighbor called the police on me because my dog got out of the house loose one day. He's a pain(the neighbor)to everyone here but I never thought of retaliation. That's something kids do. Grown ups take the time to think and prevent something from escalating into something everyone will be sorry for.

When the police officer arrived, he was polite as I was. I told him there were carpenters working here and they were going in and out and the dog slipped out during one of those times. That was the end of it.

[Gemini Cat]

71. Wow.

I seriously doubt the poster wanted to "destroy a life and a home..."
Most rational people dislike abuse against animals and other living things.

[WhollyHeretic]

73. Trying to stop animal cruelty is not an "injustice" or trying to "destroy a life and a home"

That's a pretty sick outlook.

[superduperfarleft]

76. "if you called the police on me, i would retaliate on you, ANY normal healthy human being would"

Um, I think the majority of people (thankfully) would disagree with what you consider "normal."

But it sure is nice when DU's resident sociopath contrarians chime in.

[XanaDUer]

77. Lol!

:rofl:

[roody]

62. It is hard to imagine that so-called progressives, DU

posters, would be so callous towards animal cruelty. My ignore list just gained a few names. Thanks for standing up for the dog. I hope it leads to better laws in Alabama.
Edit to ask what did they do with the body?

[moobu2]

64. After the last shot

the guy who shot Blue got in his truck and drove away. He knew I was calling the police so I guess he didn't want to be there. The guys father came around the corner of the house, grabbed one of blues paws and just drug him around the corner out of sight. I think he buried Blue in the owners back yard, not positive though.

[Ramulux]

70. Heres what I can tell you

Those assholes are very lucky to live next to someone as calm and level-headed as you. If someone shot a dog in the face in front of me, I would secretly make that persons life a living fucking hell.

Maybe its just because I am young and growing up if you didn't respond to provocation that meant you were a chump and an easy target, but if someone pulled that shit on me I would definitely not be turning the other cheek. Those people sound like they are fucking sick and I wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt for messing with them.