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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:00 PM
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If Mubarak leaves, should we pull our $2.5 billion aid package?
I'm not sure why we are giving Egypt $2.5B in aid. I don't have a clue what we are getting for it other than a friendly regime in Mubarak, but if he's a goner, are we going to trust the new government enough to risk giving it to them? Of course, we have "people" who make those decisions.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:03 PM
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1. Pull it whether he leaves or stays. We have people here in the US that
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 03:04 PM by Obamanaut
could benefit from that same money.

edited to add: homeless, unemployed, school children who don't eat at home, people who need medicine but have no money, etc.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:05 PM
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2. We give the 2.5 billion in order to keep them from attacking Israel basically..
Clearly if there's no dictator there in Egypt then they don't need our aid money, why would we give aid to poor people instead of rich ones?
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:09 PM
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8. "why would we give aid to poor people instead of rich ones?"
i agree 100%. they'd probably spend it on stupid shit anyway (i.e. the poor people would)
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:45 PM
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18. What a cold and misguided statement.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 04:12 PM
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20. That burning smell?
It's your snarkometer.. :hi:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:05 PM
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3. Our aid should have been "frozen" the instant the revolution started
and probably was..
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:05 PM
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4. That aid is bribe money for them not waging war against Israel. n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 04:50 PM
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21. Exactly right
And Mubarak has lived up to his end of the bargain. The thinking is, if we don't bribe them, we just pay it out in higher oil prices to the Saudis, et al, anyway. At least this goes to aid in a poor country, and the military goods keep jobs going in the US.

That was the deal that Jimmy Carter struck in the Camp David Accords, and got him awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Can President Obama keep the peace for the Nobel Prize he already got in advance?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:07 PM
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5. Actually, we should keep sending aid but insist it be used for
social programs as opposed to military expenditures. I won't hold by breath though.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:09 PM
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7. Why should we feed them and not our own?
We have social programs that could use that money.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:10 PM
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9. america needs to go on a diet!
we need to eat less food, not more.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:14 PM
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10. Aint that the truth!
But, we still have a lot of hungry Americans who could use the nourishment. We have started a program here to send food home with the schoolkids who have needs on the weekends because it was found that the majority of them weren't eating right, or enough, and most got their nutrition at school. We stock and fund it through donations. That money could be put to use feeding our hungry.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:23 PM
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13. Yes, we should just stop trying to stop starvation in Africa too.
Fuck them, we've got ours.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:08 PM
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6. Depends on what it is spent on...
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 03:08 PM by JCMach1
If it is just a stability payment, let the Saudis pay.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:20 PM
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11. Oops.
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 03:23 PM by pampango
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:22 PM
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12. We better pull the aid if he DOESN'T leave. If that much money doesn't give us some leverage
over him, I don't know what would.
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:31 PM
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14. He'll probably just take it with him. NT
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:32 PM
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15. We get a lot of it back
They buy tear gas from us, weapons, armor, etc.

I thought it was more than 2.5.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:40 PM
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16. I would hope that we pull it if he doesn't leave.
He's had his time. It's time for him to go and let the Egyptian people form a new government. A new government will need the money to rebuild their economy.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:44 PM
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17. To me,
it's friggin' crazy that we are giving foreign aid to other countries while in debt to China up to our wazoos, and borrowing more all the time.

Makes no sense to me. Oh, I know. Bribes and currying favor and all that, but still…
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 04:05 PM
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19. Plus, there's plenty of stuff in the US that aid money could be used for:
crumbling bridges, homeless people, hungry school children, medication for those otherwise unable to pay, etc.
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 04:52 PM
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22. didn't the President pull it 2 years ago or cut it in 1/2
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 05:00 PM
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23. You can be pretty sure none of the people in the streets saw a penny of it
so they won't notice if you pull it.

Well, fewer tear gas canisters being lobbed at them maybe.
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