When did Hillary seize power from President Obama?

[William769]

Just asking.

[marmar]

1. The primaries are over. Let it go.

nt

[William769]

4. Has nothing to do with the primaries.

Has to do with who Hillary answers to, hence the question I asked.

[October]

40. Well, she doesn't answer to you...

[William769]

43. Play coy all you want, and if thats not the problem

Please learn how our Government works.

[dionysus]

6. +100000

[hlthe2b]

2. ??? As SOS, she is high profile now.... SO what?

[Tunkamerica]

3. just asking. i hear that phrase a lot.

just saying.

[demmiblue]

5. She didn't.

:shrug:

[DURHAM D]

7. Well, she is old enough to be his mother. nt

[William769]

8. Yes if she gave birth at the age of 14.

[DURHAM D]

11. oh damn...

i forgot this - :sarcasm:

[AngryAmish]

70. they grow up fast in Park Ridge...

[okieinpain]

57. wish she was my mom. n/t

[gateley]

9. I don't know what you're referring to, but she's saying whatever they decided the

Administration's stance would be. She's not a loose cannon.

[William769]

10. Thank you, thats exactly my point.

[Cerridwen]

45. Subtlety doesn't work here anymore.

:(

[upi402]

12. She may be a corporatist but she's the consumate professional

I disagree with her pro-NAFTA anti-worker positions. BUT... she's doing an excellent job all the way around. (was that out loud?)

[jody]

13. When she won the primaries and lost the caucuses? nt

[laconicsax]

14. LOL WUT?

[sufrommich]

15. She'll be on Meet The Press tomorrow,looking forward to seeing it.

Should be interesting.

[rhett o rick]

16. What makes you think that Obama ever had power? nm

[blm]

18. Exactly. To answer OP, though, it would be Jan1993 when Bill sided with secrecy and privilege

of Reagan and Bush administrations over open government as he spent the 90s deepsixing BCCI matters that deserved fuller scrutiny, exposure and accountability. Clintons are pretty damn good at sabotaging ANY other Democratic leader who dares to stray from the foreign policy that Poppy Bush and his fascist cronies have plotted over the decades.

[William769]

44. oh the deflection.

You never cease to amaze me. NOT!

[blm]

46. Yeah, because in YOUR world nothing bad came of Clinton protecting Reagan-Bush's global agenda.

Pretend away.

[William769]

50. Man

Your a legend in your own mind.

[blm]

51. You're happy with the results of Clinton siding with Reagan-Bush's secrecy thru the 90s and I'm not.

I'm not. That's all this.

[William769]

59. I'm not living in the 90's I'm living in today.

You have no argument for what this thread is about, so as usual you deflect to a time that has nothing to do with the present.

Good luck with that.

[blm]

68. The issue is that you DON'T recognize how actions of the 90s led to the globe's current problems

Keep pretending that the last 50 years of BushInc has no bearing on current events and foreign policy. Good luck with that vacuum you created.

[Beacool]

53. So.................

It's never Obama's fault? It's Bush's fault, Hillary's fault, even Bill's fault?

Wow, the disingenuousness is something to withhold........

:crazy:




:7

[blm]

58. It is Obama's fault to a point...he relies far too much Clinton influence on foreign policy and that

means the continuance of Poppy Bush's global agenda...something I highly doubt Obama realized fully before Nov2008.

When will the tragic consequences of choices made in the 90s hit your radar? You excel at pretending that Clinton's decision to protect the secrecy and privilege of the powerful elite have NOTHING to do with the global conditions of the last 10 years. Conditions that include narrowing Obama's presidential power and choices so much that now it near impossible to drastically change anything.

[William769]

62. So Bush's presidency was also narrowed after all he was before President Obama.

You really crack me up! :rofl:





P.S. keep up your deflection if it helps you make it through the day

[blm]

73. Power was narrowed down TO BushInc and the powerful elite because Clinton served their agenda and

protected their secrecy and privilege. The RESULT is that any Dem president following Bush-Clinton-Bush would have narrowed powers and choices.

What's funny is that you convinced yourself that global events in the last decade happened in a vacuum. Or, rather, you PRETEND that the actions of the 90s have no relevance to the last 10 years.

Your 'day' is easily made if you find current tragic events of the last decade that could've been prevented by accountability in the 90s funny. Suit yourself.

[doc03]

17. Who would you rather have answer that 3 am call n/t

[jonnyblitz]

20. neither one. nt

[tigereye]

19. oh, for God's sake.

:(

[rhett o rick]

22. Which god? nm

[tigereye]

28. any will do.

[rhett o rick]

30. Good enough. nm

[spin]

21. I still think she might run against Obama in the primaries ...

especially if the economy takes another downturn because of rising oil prices caused by instability in the Middle East.

I always felt Obama made a serious miscalculation when he appointed Hillary to Secretary of State.

Perhaps he attributed the quote "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." to Sun Tzu rather than to "Michael Corleone" in The Godfather. It's never a good idea to base an important strategy on a quote from a movie.

edited for spelling

[upi402]

23. God, kill me with a spoon or a fork

what a choice...

[rug]

25. It would be a horribly slow death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

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[Gaedel]

39. If you suppose

that Hillary wants to backstab the president.

She could sabotage him a lot better from the Senate than from where she serves "at his pleasure" and can be bounced any minute.

[WinkyDink]

42. N.E.V.E.R.

[Beacool]

54. Please, the woman should have been president.

But don't you worry, she's not like Ted Kennedy. She will not run against Obama in 2012.

:eyes:

[grahamhgreen]

24. I think it was in the bathroom on Air Force 1....

?

[emulatorloo]

26. Are you playing dumb?

[Vickers]

27. Unrec because of teh stupid. n/t

[SidDithers]

29. +1...nt

Sid

[fishwax]

31. .

:shrug:

[lunatica]

33. It's her job. She's the Secretary of State who speaks for the President

When she speaks publicly to leaders of the world she is speaking for President Obama.

Jeez.

[defendandprotect]

34. Unrec'd it .....

looks like an attempt to flame --

[Obamanaut]

36. With the question mark (?) at the end, 'just asking' was sorta obvious. nt

[Vickers]

38. If it would've had a period, he would've typed "Just sayin'."

:P

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[WinkyDink]

41. Wouldn't Kissinger speak in such a circumstance?

[formercia]

49. I'm surprised they haven't trotted out Kissinger yet.

As long as they're going to screw the pooch, the M$M should do a bang-up job of it.

[backscatter712]

47. What are you talking about?

She's doing her job as Secretary of State.

[Le Taz Hot]

48. She didn't.

She's paid to be his mouthpiece.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

52. March 14th, 2014, backed by Skynet. N.T.

[Beacool]

55. Obama is still president.

He wasn't my choice, but there he is. That's life.......

:shrug:

Although I know what you meant. Some people here are trashing Hillary as if she is speaking for herself and not the administration. The total disconnect is actually funny if you think about it.

:7

[dionysus]

61. you promised to be good!

:P

[Beacool]

65. I can't hep it, it's in my nature.

Said the scorpion to the frog.......

}(

[William769]

66. Some people understood what this thread was about, others?

Well we did have a dense fog this morning where I lived.

[dionysus]

75. or you don't understand Bea and I's sense of rapport....

:P

[Beacool]

78. Dionysus doesn't mean anything by it.

He and I joke all the time.

:hi:

[dionysus]

74. let see that grin when there's no banky to keep you warm on a cold winter day!

:P

[Beacool]

77. Not fair!!!!!

Tonight we have the beginnings of another winter storm (it's become a weekly event) and no banky to keep me warm.

Wuaaaaa!!!!

:cry:

[dionysus]

79. fine. take it. *harumph*

[Beacool]

80. That was not very gracious, but I'll take it.

I love me some banky, come to momma!!!

:loveya:

[dionysus]

82. we have a huge storm coming and i just gave you my last banky...

:cry:

[Beacool]

83. Well, I'm not selfish.

Come on over, there's enough room under banky for both of us. I'll make popcorn, hot chocolate and we'll watch some movies.

:D

[dionysus]

84. thx Bea

[Renew Deal]

56. This was the plan all along.

Hillary is now president and Obama is just going along with her. :eyes:

[Major Hogwash]

60. You should never use Hillary's name and the word "seize" in the same sentence.

Because then it just conjures up bad images of the Wicked Witch of the West when she yelled out to the flying monkeys, "Seize them! Seize them!"

[Beacool]

64. Maybe it conjures it in YOUR mind.

Nothing like a sexist, RW attack on a woman. Nice going.......

x(

[LawnLover]

63. She lost.

I know that saddens you, but she lost. She has not seized power. She will not seize power. She'll advise, he'll listen. That's what she's there for.

I really get sick of this kind of bullshit. It's counterproductive.

[William769]

67. It would be nice if you knew what you were talking about.

I will state once again for the challenged this has nothing to do with the primary, did you understand that? It has to do with people blaming her for towing President Obamas Administration official line.

She herself is just doing what she is told to do, I would not expect anything else from her.

[LawnLover]

69. Uh-huh

So why bring it up? Why even make a comment about it at all? Just to get some weird kind of dig in?

And if you have to state several times what it is you're trying to say, why not just simply state it correctly the first time out rather than assuming everyone can read your mind?

[Cali_Democrat]

71. What?

You've confused me.

[Electric Monk]

72. IBTT

[spanone]

76. don't bogart that joint

[City Lights]

81. Huh? nt