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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:02 PM
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Liberals plan to ‘uncloak’ the Koch brothers
Source: The Daily Caller

Liberals plan to ‘uncloak’ the Koch brothers
Caroline May - The Daily Caller – 2 hrs 45 mins ago

The liberal activist group Common Cause is rallying its supporters to protest David and Charles Koch’s convocation of conservative heavy hitters in California this weekend. The billionaire Koch brothers, whose family business is one of the largest private companies in the world, are longtime funders of many conservative causes, including Tea Party groups, and initiatives to defeat Obamacare and global warming legislation.

A couple of hundred conservative donors, activists, politicians, and businessmen are expected to join the Koch’s event in Rancho Mirage. Past meetings have featured movement pillars like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sen. Jim DeMint and several Supreme Court Justices.

“This conference brings together some of America’s greatest philanthropists and most successful business leaders whose companies have created millions of real jobs,” Nancy Pfotenhauer, conference spokesperson told The Daily Caller. “Attendees will discuss solutions to our most pressing issues and strategies to promote policies that will help grow our economy, foster free enterprise and create American jobs.”

Common Cause and its allies see a more sinister agenda. They’ll be shouting outside — and in at least one case, from above. Greenpeace has chartered a blimp emblazoned with the words “dirty money” to fly over the conference.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110129/pl_dailycaller/liberalsplantouncloakthekochbrothers
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:09 PM
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1. Good luck to Common Cause and Greenpeace...
They'll need a lot more than banners and blimps to counter these folks.

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:48 PM
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4. lol! No kidding. I think they should get the list then go public. I think I would
donate $100 to help put a full page Ad in papers. They should make this the mission to put it out there full and center front for the public to see.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:56 PM
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7. I agree totally. Ads -- full page ads -- and teevee spots on prime time
would help to educate the public.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:23 PM
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12. Yes. Balloons and protests are not enough. Although they are a start.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 12:31 PM
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29. oh, yeah. teabaggers spend a lot of time reading papers. nt.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 02:58 PM
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45. Put it on tv. Silent Ad with just a ton of names and what harm they have done.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:11 PM
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48. No one would run it.
Every network would refuse the ad - every one.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 09:46 PM
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49. Money talks.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 10:43 PM
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50. pfft.
Not in the case of advertising on network television. There are multiple instances of networks refusing to air leftist advertisements, in some cases even after they were paid for. You may be able to watch such an ad in the dream world where you live (the same world where it could possibly influence teabaggers), but the rest of us never will.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 11:59 PM
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51. That was rude. Money does talk. The right Ads placed in right places would inform.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 12:46 AM
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52. Ok, keep on truckin'.
If you can name one single instance of an advertisement placed by an anti-conservative group within the mainstream media which has then gone on to have a substantive effect in the national discourse, please do.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:26 PM
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2. k&r
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:12 PM
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38. Deja DU's:
Anyone have info on Bush and the Koch brothers or Koch Industries?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x818603


Covert Operations:The billionaire brothers who are waging a war against Obama.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4514591

Others?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:47 PM
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3. Common Cause is a good place to send "Coins" to if you have them.
The KoKo Household decided to give to THEM over donations to Dem Party this year.

We give to our "local DEM candidates" but felt Common Cause is a site that is truly working for our beliefs and that's it more worthwhile to give to those who support our beliefs than those like the DNC who DO NOT!

K&R!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:48 PM
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5. I see this was moved and that there's no way to Recommend...so I will K&R!
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:30 AM
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16. Where was this moved from?
I find it in general discussion and on the greatest page. I just recommended it. Was it moved again?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:53 PM
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6. Deleted message
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:07 PM
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8. Big rec on this one.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:09 PM
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9. Can't wait to see pictures!
Wish I could be there!!
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:13 PM
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10. Why stay outside? Remember the Sheet Metal Workers.........
Union that went INSIDE that meeting of the big mortgage bank? They got in their face. Nothing that a capitalist fears more than the "Great Unwashed" getting in their face. They won't change ANYTHING until there's a little fear there.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:25 PM
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13. +++
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:13 PM
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11. K & R!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:10 PM
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14. +100
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Duwamish Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 11:14 PM
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15. I hope it gets noticed by the MSM but I'm not holding my breath.
Someone besides Rachel needs to be dissecting these connections. Don't fear the Muslim Brotherhood, fear the Koch Brotherhood.
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James48 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 09:17 AM
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17. Hot air
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 09:19 AM by James48



I hear the Greenpeace group stiffed a local balloonist for more than a thousand dollars worth of propane.

Denni Barrett, of Magical Adventure Balloon Rides, says he helped them last year- and they bolted without paying.


He says Greenpeace didn't pay their bill.

I would hope that would be corrected.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:06 AM
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18. Link please...
otherwise, I cry "Hot Air" likewise.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:32 AM
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19. Better business practice: get paid in advance if your customer flies off
in your ballon!

What a maroon.:rofl:


(thanks for the picture!)
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:39 AM
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24. That's a thing of beauty. nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 10:32 AM
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20. unrec - what a slanted article
here's how it ended

"Despite the hyperbole, the Koch conference doesn’t sound so different from many off-the-record political conferences, including those held by the professional left. Shortly after the 2010 elections, for example, liberal groups converged on Washington D.C.’s Oriental Mandarin hotel, The meeting, hosted by Democracy Alliance featured liberal leaders such as Van Jones, hedge fund manager Donald Sussman, and AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka. Michael Vachon, a George Soros representative, Peter Lewis, CEO of Progressive Insurance; and Fred Baron, the former president of the Association of Trial Lawyers of America also attended.

Yet to listen to the activist left describe it, this weekend’s meeting is a threat to the existence of life on this planet."


Well I can think of one major difference between the conference of the left and the one of the rich. The group of rich people has managed to create public policies that funnel billions of dollars into their own pockets. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/126

How's that for hyperbole?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:42 AM
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25. Actually they are a threat
to life on this planet.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:06 PM
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delightfulstar Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:13 AM
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21. BIG K&R!!!
I used to live in Wichita, Kansas, and got to see the wrath of the Koch Brothers firsthand. Wonder why the Repukes have a chokehold there? Those two creeps are a big reason why. They need to be exposed for the slime they are.

:applause: :applause: :applause: for Common Cause and Greenpeace! :kick:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:36 AM
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22. Why would the right wing assholes want to meet in California,
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 11:37 AM by Enthusiast
the place they characterize as "the left coast" and "the workers paradise". Maybe they want to 'take back' California like they took back the nation, back into the 19th century.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:38 AM
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23. GOOD!! n/t
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:47 AM
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26. How, since the Kochs on the media?
:shrug:
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:53 AM
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27. Expose your Kochs!
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
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Pedalpower Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 11:58 AM
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28. Roch out with your Koch out! n/t
...
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 12:32 PM
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30. notice how the story
fails to put "obamacare" in quotes? "they" control the message even when it's about "them"
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 01:33 PM
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31. I wonder what these supposedly Libertarian idiots think about Egypt
Wealthy fascists tend to stick together, so I imagine they side with Mubarak.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 06:21 PM
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44. Odds are they own stock in Mubarak
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:00 PM
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32. You have to find a way to shame these guys to get them to stop.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:20 PM
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34. Advertise the products of their companies. Boycott them.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 02:21 PM by MasonJar
Aren't Brawny and Bounty paper towels the "kook" brother commodities? What else is there?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:22 PM
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35. +1,000! k/r n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:48 PM
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36. About f^ckin time. Hope they have surprising success.
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 02:49 PM by BrklynLiberal
Something new should be done to counteract all the regressive, conservative energy and money that has been taking control of this country for decades:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=291526&mesg_id=291596
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:05 PM
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37. "Only the top 1000 records are being displayed." ... $100,000 RNC
Only the top 1000 records are being displayed. ... $100,000 RNC

Search Criteria: Donor occupation: Koch Industries
Cycle(s) selected: All
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?

Results: Your search has generated too many results. Only the top 1000 records are being displayed.

KOCH, DAVID H., WICHITA,KS 67201 3/5/1999 $100,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
...............

===========
Search Criteria:
Donor name: Koch, David
116 records = Total for this search: $627,080
3/5/1999 $100,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
8/18/2000 $75,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
5/3/2002 $50,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
9/9/1999 $40,000 1999 Republican S/H Dinner Indiv Non-Fed
3/3/2000 $25,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte
6/30/2005 $25,000 National Republican Senatorial Cmte
3/29/2006 $25,000 National Republican Senatorial Cmte
9/12/2003 $25,000 National Republican Senatorial Cmte
3/4/2004 $25,000 National Republican Senatorial Cmte
4/24/2007 $25,000 Republican National Cmte
.....

Search Criteria:
Donor name: KOCH, CHARLES
55 records = Total for this search: $159,650
6/20/2005 $25,000 Republican National Cmte
5/31/2006 $25,000 Republican National Cmte
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:40 PM
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39. A most fascinating article.
It starts out with factual reporting and ends assuming equivalency of sorts between the doom and gloom, hyperbolic, "activist left" and the philanthropic, freedom of speech loving, job creating billionaire right. :smoke:
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:50 PM
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40. It's an astroturf movement
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 05:26 PM
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41. Now THIS is what I like to hear!
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Leithan Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 05:48 PM
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42. "Uncloak?"
Dammit, I always KNEW those bastards were Klingons!

"
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 06:17 PM
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43. over kill..!!
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:03 PM
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46. We need a Comprehensive list of Attendees
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:08 PM
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47. Looked like a great crowd. Saw copters, lots of cops, and a ton of folks
Didn't see the blimp.
Saw all the Common Cause folks in their green t shirts, saw the nurses, saw a lot of folks walking in The River holding signs.
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