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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:42 PM
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who said it?
The changes I have discussed today will not come easily -- change never does. But the reform movement in the Middle East has a powerful engine: demographics. Sixty percent of the population is under 30 years old. Many of these young people surf the web, own cell phones, have satellite televisions. They have access to unprecedented amounts of information. They see what freedom has brought to millions of others and contrast that to what they have at home. Today, I have a message for these young people: Some tell -- some will tell you change is impossible, but history has a way of surprising us, and change can happen more quickly than we expect. In the past century, one concept has transcended borders, cultures, and languages. In Arabic, "hurriyya" -- in English, "freedom." Across the world, the call for freedom lives in our hearts, endures in our prayers, and joins humanity as one.



Believe it or not... it appears that the US has been quietly supporting the underground democracy movement for at least 5 years.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:46 PM
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1. yep, we've been talking about democracy in the ME for a long time
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:52 PM
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2. more interesting background
Edited on Sun Jan-30-11 02:53 PM by GSLevel9
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29262441/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/

Egypt frees dissident from prison after 3 years
Sudden release could be attempt by Cairo to improve relations with U.S.

CAIRO — A leading Egyptian dissident who was jailed after challenging the country's longtime president in the 2005 elections was unexpectedly freed Wednesday after years of pressure from the United States.

The jailing of Ayman Nour has troubled Egyptian-U.S. relations for more than three years, and his sudden release may be a gesture to improve ties with President Barack Obama's new administration.

Nour told The Associated Press from his Cairo home that he learned he was going to be freed only when a car arrived at the prison to take him home. "Why they did this is unknown," he said.

"I am coming out with an open heart and am ready to work and nothing has changed. A lot of things have been put on hold over the past years. ... I am ready to make a change in this country," he told the AP in a telephone interview.

He later told reporters gathered at his home: "I will definitely resume my political activity."

The prosecutor's office said in a statement that Nour was ordered released for health reasons. Nour has complained of heart and eye problems, and his wife petitioned Egyptian courts for his release on health grounds.

Nour, who headed the opposition Al-Ghad party, challenged Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in September 2005 presidential elections, but finished a distant second in balloting criticized as flawed and in which most voters stayed away.

Nour, who is in his mid-40s, was convicted Dec. 24, 2005 of forging signatures on petitions to register the party in 2004. He said he was prosecuted to eliminate him from politics, and the argument received wide support among human rights groups.

Mentioned by Bush
The jailing came as the administration of then-President George W. Bush was pressing for democratic reforms in the Mideast. Bush specifically named Nour among several dissidents from other countries — including Cuba and Myanmar — during a speech in June 2007 in the Czech Republic that lauded democracy's progress around the globe.

"There are many other dissidents who could not join us because they are being unjustly imprisoned or held under house arrest. I look forward to the day when conferences like this one include ... Ayman Nour of Egypt," Bush said at the time

In August, Nour wrote a letter to Obama, then a presidential candidate, urging him to help Arab reformers push for democracy in the Middle East. In the letter, Nour said Obama "embodies the dreams of Arab reformers for democracy and change." The letter, published in an independent Egyptian newspaper, was sent to the Obama campaign's e-mail address, according to Nour's wife.

On Wednesday evening, Nour — wearing a suit and an orange tie — hugged and kissed family members at his packed apartment in an upscale Cairo neighborhood, where people gathered to congratulate him.

His wife, Gamila Ismail, told reporters that she hadn't known her husband was free until their building's parking attendant called her on her cell phone and asked her to come home because Nour didn't have a key.

When she returned home, she said: "I found him praying in front of our doorstep."

His lawyer, Amir Salem, told the AP there had been no deal between Nour and the government for him to avoid politics in return for his release. "He told me he will reorganize the party, resume his activities and return to politics," he said.

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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 02:54 PM
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3. if this all goes well...
a lot of credit should go to the US. And to President Obama for nurturing an international environment conducive to a change without the specter of W's shadow.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:09 PM
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4. Okay, I'll bite, who said that? nt
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:14 PM
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5. I googled In Arabic, "hurriyya" -- in English, "freedom."
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:15 PM
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6. Bush
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:50 PM
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8. Freedom mean, more or less, different things to different people, so I'm not going
to assume that there is a majority of over-lap between what that word means to me as compared to what it means to the man who enslaved this country to everything that was created by the Invasion and Occupation of a SOVEREIGN nation known as Iraq.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:22 PM
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7. Interesting. n/t
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