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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:37 PM
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Robert Scheer: "I think it was a real achievement of Obama to embrace, not demonize, the Chinese"


In a live video Q & A session, Truthdig Editor and columnist Robert Scheer answered readers’ questions about his latest column, “Hogwash, Mr. President,” and Obama’s second State of the Union address.
January 28, 2011

Anderson: Well, here’s a suggestion from within our own Truthdig team, which is that we ask you what you thought of Obama and the Chinese president’s visit?

Scheer: Yeah, I thought this was a strong moment for Obama. I think he … look. I think Obama is obviously better than many of the alternatives. Don’t get me wrong. And the fact that he’s not willing to … he has, at times, flirted with the bait China, “hold the Chinese responsible,” card, which Republicans and Democrats do. The good thing about this visit is he was willing to treat the Chinese with respect, which they deserve. That doesn’t mean you give them a blank check; that doesn’t mean you don’t criticize their human rights record. And in fact, one of the great achievements of that visit is the Chinese leader—Chinese leader! In public! Now, unfortunately, it wasn’t reported in China the way we would have hoped—but in public, in front of the world, said, “We need to work on our human rights.” That was an incredible, incredible victory. When is the time when an American president has said that, we need to work on human rights? That was a real achievement.

And I think the resistance of the impulse to demonize China, to look for scapegoats … the fact is, it was the U.S. economy that messed up the Chinese economy, not the other way around. It was the U.S. economy that messed up the Greek economy, and the Spanish economy, and threatened the German economy and the English economy. It was our banking policies—we are the culprits in this thing. Our Wall Street geniuses are the people that caused this international crisis. Now, the Germans and the Chinese have come out of it better than we have. But we can’t demonize them; we can’t blame this all on their currency or something. They’re going to try to do as well as they can, and they have a lot of people, a lot of mouths to feed. They’re going to try to … we’ve always jiggered currency, we’ve always jiggered trade to protect our own people; let’s not kid ourselves. So what they’re doing is, they say, hey, we can’t have riots in the street, we’ve got … hundreds of millions of people are going to be very unhappy with any of the slightest little drop here. And so they have protected their interests, and like the Germans, seem to be coming out of this nightmare that we created, you know, in better shape.

But I think it was a real achievement of Obama to embrace the Chinese, to treat them as equals, to not demonize, and yet to reserve the right to criticize things that are universally important, like human rights, yeah. So I thought it was a masterful—let me be very pro-Obama on this—I thought it was his best moment in foreign policy; it was masterful. So I don’t always want to criticize … look, I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again. I take no joy in being a naysayer. I know we have people who comment and say, “God, you just love to be in opposition, you just love to be critical. …” I don’t. Trust me, I would rather go sailing today with our managing editor, who happens to be my son, Peter, and say, “Hey! The world’s in great shape. We don’t really need to put out Truthdig. We don’t need to be sounding the alarm. You know, let’s just go sailing! It’s a beautiful day in Los Angeles. You know, we have this little sailboat, let’s go out there, let’s enjoy it.” I’d love to just think, “Hey, let’s have a great lunch here, you know? Let’s take the whole Truthdig staff down to the beach, and we’ll go have lunch. Our work is done. We’ve got a great president, he’s solving our problems, and we should shut up for a while.” But the problem is that a lot of people are hurting around the world, and it would be irresponsible for us to shut up now. We can’t do that.

Read the full interview at:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/live_chat_robert_scheer_on_obamas_state_of_the_union_address_20110128/


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Hogwash, Mr. President
By Robert Scheer
January 26, 2011

What is the state of the union? You certainly couldn’t tell from that platitudinous hogwash that the president dished out Tuesday evening. I had expected Barack Obama to be his eloquent self, appealing to our better nature, but instead he was mealy-mouthed in avoiding the tough choices that a leader should delineate in a time of trouble. He embraced clean air and a faster Internet while ignoring the depth of our economic pain and the Wall Street scoundrels who were responsible—understandably so, since they so prominently populate the highest reaches of his administration. He had the effrontery to condemn “a parade of lobbyists” for rigging government after he appointed the top Washington representative of JPMorgan Chase to be his new chief of staff.

The speech was a distraction from what seriously ails us: an unabated mortgage crisis, stubbornly high unemployment and a debt that spiraled out of control while the government wasted trillions making the bankers whole. Instead the president conveyed the insular optimism of his fat-cat associates: “We are poised for progress. Two years after the worst recession most of us have ever known, the stock market has come roaring back. Corporate profits are up. The economy is growing again.” How convenient to ignore the fact that this bubble of prosperity, which has failed the tens of millions losing their homes and jobs, was floated by enormous government indebtedness now forcing deep cuts in social services including state financial aid for those better-educated students the president claims to be so concerned about.

His references to education provided a convenient scapegoat for the failure of the economy, rather than to blame the actions of the Wall Street hustlers to whom Obama is now sucking up. Yes, it is an obvious good to have better-educated students to compete with other economies, but that is hardly the issue of the moment when all of the world’s economies are suffering grievous harm resulting from the irresponsible behavior of the best and the brightest here at home. It wasn’t the students struggling at community colleges who came up with the financial gimmicks that produced the Great Recession, but rather the super-whiz-kid graduates of the top business and law schools.

That the financial meltdown at the heart of our economic crisis was “avoidable” and not the result of long-run economic problems related to education and foreign competition is detailed in a sweeping report by the Democratic majority on the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to be released as a 576-page book on Thursday. In a preview reported in The New York Times, the commission concluded: “The greatest tragedy would be to accept the refrain that no one could have seen this coming and thus nothing could have been done. If we accept this notion, it will happen again.”

Read the full article at:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/hogwash_mr_president_20110126/
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:46 PM
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1. You don't want to piss off your overlords. nt
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:50 PM
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3. Do you mean Wall Street or some furinners?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:59 PM
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6. I meant the Chinese. They hold the mortgate on our house. :-( But
good question! :7
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:06 PM
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7. Well, of course. A convenient scapegoat for Wall Street and corporate America!

Actually it is the Chinese capitalists who are trying their best to save the American economy with their purchases of U.S. securities. They don't want the U.S. economy to totally collapse and bring down China and the world with them. But, their pockets are only so deep.

Like Scheer pointed out: "And I think the resistance of the impulse to demonize China, to look for scapegoats … the fact is, it was the U.S. economy that messed up the Chinese economy, not the other way around."
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 04:10 PM
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8. I responded without even reading anything but the headline - I'm
so guilty of that, and I end up missing the whole point. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me -- you shouldn't have to do that. :blush: :hi:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:49 PM
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2. wallow, wallow... swallow n/t
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:53 PM
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4. Good. Now rescind Bush's EO against import of Chinese munitions.
Yes, Clinton signed it, but it was Bush's idea. Be a lot cheaper at the gun range if I didn't have to buy over-priced Winchester white-box that's made in "pick-a-country" (Israel, Australia, etc???).
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 03:55 PM
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5. I like how we're supposed to take the blame for what the Banksters did
That was a nice touch. As usual, the losses get socialized, but the victories get attributed to the few or the 1.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 07:00 PM
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9. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you think Scheer is blaming working folks for the banksters crimes?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 07:12 PM
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10. Yes, I do
And I think the resistance of the impulse to demonize China, to look for scapegoats … the fact is, it was the U.S. economy that messed up the Chinese economy, not the other way around. It was the U.S. economy that messed up the Greek economy, and the Spanish economy, and threatened the German economy and the English economy. It was our banking policies—we are the culprits in this thing. Our Wall Street geniuses are the people that caused this international crisis.


They aren't my Wall St. Geniuses. Are they yours?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 07:36 PM
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11. So by blaming the "Wall Street geniuses" for the crisis he's blaming American workers!!???

Right.

That makes total sense .... nonsense.

Surely you understand what he meant and who he was attacking .... but maybe not.

Scheer has always supported working people and has never been a defender of the Wall Street crooks and corporate America.

Perhaps you're not familiar with his history and writings.

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-11 07:50 PM
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12. Sure- I loved his commentary about the SOTU
But I think he's fundamentally wrong about how things are going with China, and that paragraph jumped out at me as flat wrong.

We don't need to be forgiving relative evils because we have people just as evil in charge here.

...Or maybe I'm wrong? Maybe we SHOULD own our Banksters and what they are doing to everyone around the world. It not like we're going to hold them accountable, or stop them when they do it again.

Seen from that perspective, we really have no choice but to accept our own evil, and China's, right?
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