What country is now the 'American Dream' country?

[valerief]

Now that America can no longer pretend to have an American Dream, what country does? What country has the best <American> Dream?

[DonCoquixote]

1. None

China may have money, but that does not help you in the cemetery or the prison. India might, but India has too many loonies of all stripes, from Maoists to fascists. The dream may be dead, and no, that is Not a good thing.

[MadMaddie]

2. One of the countries that has Universal Healthcare

The citizens don't have to worry about losing their lifes savings, homes, automobiles and sanity worrying about required catastrophic health care.

[valerief]

5. Yeah, probably any of the Scandanavian countries. nt

[Sisaruus]

38. I'll vote for Finland

(I'm Finnish-American and would love to move there.)

[area51]

34. +1 n/t

[HuckleB]

3. More and more of the world seems to be falling back or catching up to a dream of mediocrity.

:yoiks:

[El Supremo]

4. Aztlán

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. Some interesting reading at La Voz de Aztlan.

Some of the info there is hilarious.

http://aztlan.net

[Gabi Hayes]

23. funny, like a clown?>>>>>

http://aztlan.net/jew_humiliates_mexican_workers.htm

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. Clown, jester, fool, idiot, take your pick. n/t

[L0oniX]

6. Sweden.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. I would settle for Canada...

[unkachuck]

8. +1

[Bobbieo]

10. New Zealand - have former neighbors there, now. HMMMM!

[brettdale]

17. its also summer here now

90F 30C, beach weather!

[applegrove]

31. Thanks. We do feel lucky. Now if only we could get rid of the neocons who

have a minority in parliament.

[TransitJohn]

9. Singapore.

It's nice there.

[-..__...]

18. Yes...

I've always enjoyed a good caning for minor offenses.

[Skink]

11. What country eh.

little cold for ya.

[Angry Dragon]

12. Dubai --- that is where all the money is going

[valerief]

13. Yeah, but can a commoner climb the ladder there? nt

[riderinthestorm]

25. Islamic law? Death penalty for gays? Secondary status for women?

Slave labor? Draconian drug and alcohol laws? Ick. Why would you choose Dubai?

[Taverner]

26. Was going. Watch China

[StarburstClock]

28. Dubai ships out all their pee and poop in truck caravans daily

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7663883.stm

---The putrid problem is caused by the illegal dumping of untreated sewage in Dubai's inland storm drain network, as the city's rapid growth outstrips its infrastructure.

At Dubai's only sewage treatment plant there are long queues and serious delays.

Truck drivers who are paid by the lorry load to collect waste from the city's septic tanks wait for several hours to dispose of their foul cargo legally.

There simply is not the capacity to deal with all the human waste the city dwellers produce.

After dark some drivers are taking a shortcut and dumping their loads straight into manholes meant only for rainwater.

The result is raw sewage flowing directly into the once-clear blue sea of the Gulf - right next to prime swimming beaches.

This is bad news for a city which depends on the tourists who flock to its shores. ---

[craigmatic]

15. China is the next superpower and their young people are using the US as a pit stop

for college on the way to running big companies at home and retiring in Europe.

[jaxx]

16. So it's now come down to trashing the American Dream?

I feel sorry for you.

[WestSeattle2]

19. Norway - except winters totally suck. n/t

[mattclearing]

20. I moved to Australia. It's not bad here. n/t

[Rage for Order]

21. Venezuela

Or maybe China. The former has a leader who will provide a good quality of life for all of his subjects, and the latter has a booming economy that lifts hundreds of millions out of poverty and allows for a generous social safety net.

[RegieRocker]

22. China

seems that everyone is moving their businesses over there.

[Bucky]

24. Texas is Bush Country.

So... not here.

Brazil seems to be getting its shit together, although it's shit still has a really long ways to go.

[jotsy]

29. Here's the problem

If it ain't all of it us, it ain't any of us.

Times have changed, whether for good or for bad and we are now a planetary public. The task at hand then is proving to the powers that be that we are not a Pavlovian people. The tools are as at hand to make the world a library with the global instant access technology's advances have afforded us. We can use them well or...

Be wary of where we draw the line from national pride to exceptionalism. Said dream requires some definition, given the fluidity of our governmental structure and the concrete like concept of individual rights being at the core of American principles, that dream is for each to draw as seen fit.

Who says? As a country we ride a 200 year long wave, mostly up, and because in the last 10 years it has become clear the moneychangers have been up to no good for quite a while longer than that. So now the pretending is over, I contend how we cope with the reality is soon to be discovered.

Edited because typos are just not are your mind when your hungry!

[valerief]

35. I just wondered where the American Dream illusion migrated, if anywhere.

Not that I was a believer in the dream, but others are/have been. It's a meme that's been part of America's culture for almost a century.

[jotsy]

36. I am a believer though.

As a foreclosed on homeowner, I've lived what is said to be the dream and lost it after 15 years of thinking I achieved it. It was stolen by a big zombie bank and auctioned off to greedy locals who had no regard for anything but the money they stood to make. Those people will have their days, and they'll remember when they do that I told them their time in my moment would come, and I know it will. Unlike them, I'm not petty enough to facilitate my dream at the expense of someone else.

I contend we are too young a country to really possess a 'culture' so to speak. It's all borrowed cultural practices adopted with wave after wave of ethnic migration. We here in the U.S. are what I see as an ethnic fusion of the human condition. It's culturally rich to look back and honor the roots, but there's a forward too, I'd expect getting there to be perilous, especially if it's worthwhile.

My dream? To see a world that operates on the notion that our deepest calling in life is to nurture the young and care for the aged for as long as we are between the two. FDR identified as a right in 1944 what elites have undermined and well since as profitable commodities.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwUL9tJmypI&feature=related>

[valerief]

37. Sorry to hear you lost your home. When I lose my job China (soon), I may well

be in the same boat.

The banks are always the scorpion and we're always the frog.

[jotsy]

41. As long as my peeps are close and healthy, the rest is managable.

Scorpions have no friends and frogs...well they always look like they're having a good time! Good luck w/ job situation.

[bhikkhu]

30. China, Brazil, India, Germany...

Considering growth, opportunity, general optimism and what you might call cultural health, those four are pretty strong contenders.

[Dreamer Tatum]

32. Clearly Venezuela. nt

[Anakin Skywalker]

33. Dusty Rhodes! He's big enough to be his own country!

The polka dot version is the best!

[MrScorpio]

39. The Netherlands... Always nt

[Nye Bevan]

40. Let me think.... where can a poor member of a racial minority group end up as Head of State?

Against the opposition of an establishment candidate from the racial majority, who is backed by huge campaign contributions from large corporations?

Hmmmm. That's never happened in France. Or Norway. Or Australia. Let me continue to ponder......