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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:26 PM
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"Obama is not the president I voted for"
I thought this comment that I found on the Huffington post was very good and summed it up well.

GrainOfSand wrote:

“Obama is a weak president who can't seem to gain enough courage to stand up to his opponents, instead he bows down to them to try and get along. That's not presidenti­al and it's not leadership­. He is a disappoint­ment and a disgrace to his party and all this CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE in was all talk.....h­e is always talking but doing the opposite of what he promised. He has let the Republican­s walk all over him for the sake of trying to get along with everybody. That's not the Obama I voted for and worked on his campaign in my area for......I­'m just disgusted with his corporatis­t views. And he says his pals in the Corporate world are doing so much better! How lovely for them....me­anwhile the middle class and unemployed are still struggling­, but he fails to do anything about us.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/GrainOfSand/obama-incorporated_b_815756_75616482.html
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:28 PM
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1. *de rigueur* apologist unrec, natch...
n/t
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:09 PM
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16. Do you troll all the boards
trying to figure out unrecs?

I mean really.... you are so damned bored all day that this is all you figure out to do?
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:31 PM
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2. If you thought he was much different from Senator Obama, you did vote for a different man.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:35 PM
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4. He definately fooled me. I supported the Liberal Edwards until an Obama campaign event I attended.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 03:35 PM by Skink
In which he said things like. Fix SS that's easy just raise the cap.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:21 PM
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22. And aren't you glad John Edwards lost out to Barack Obama.
Can you imagine?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:23 PM
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23. Nightmarish.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:33 PM
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30. Edwards wasn't a liberal.
As a senator he was DLC.

You know, a lot of people can speak flowery words, but folks should look at voting records to determine if they are truly who they say they are.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:21 PM
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40. He was still to the Left of Obama.
*
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:34 PM
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3. Obama has more backbone than all the more left than thou keyboard warriors combined.
But its still amusing to witness them continually attacking upwards.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:37 PM
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5. Recommend
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:37 PM
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6. Rec'd you to plus one but I don't think it's weakness. n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 03:37 PM by Catherina
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:38 PM
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7. Bush also wasn't the president a few conservatives voted for. There will always be a few
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 03:40 PM by BzaDem
in either party who are unsatisfied with the ideological purity of the nominee, depending on the party in the Whitehouse at the moment.

Though I find his comment particularly hilarious, since Obama defined himself throughout the campaign on the issue of bipartisanship, working together, a United states (versus red/blue states), etc. His primary opponent was the one who called all that a fantasy. There is so much revisionist history going on.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:38 PM
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8. I see Obama as a younger version of Nelson Mandela
Mandela kept his country together by appeasing those who oppressed him, and not letting revenge take over the collective psych-ie of Black SA.

An eloquent, intelligent, friendly and masterful speaker of the highest regard. I see Obama as playing the same game with the opposition in our country.

I think it's quite grand that the 2 most respected leaders on the planet are an African, and an African American. That has got to be a thorn in the side of conservative whiteys.
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oldlib Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:25 PM
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25. Good Point.
Obama has my respect as you articulated. I do, however, wish he would be more forceful in the Liberal cause.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:39 PM
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9. He is doing everything he planned to do
Of course he didnt tell the voters what he really planned, instead he was "sold" to voters like any consumer product.
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:45 PM
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10. I unrec.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:47 PM
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11. thanks for being brave enough to do it
I can't respect silent unreccers, but those that announce it I can respect.
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:57 PM
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13. I have family coming home from Iraq. Most people don't have
blood in the War and forget many are coming home. Everything I voted for Obama for, he did in the first year. I'm happy.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:13 PM
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39. Okay, then here is mine
unrec.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 03:56 PM
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12. Actually, the President is not the Obama I voted for.
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 04:00 PM by damntexdem
;-)

And in regard to #11 above, here is an announced rec.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:01 PM
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14. "He is a disappoint­ment and a disgrace to his party and all this CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE"
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 04:01 PM by ProSense
What a crock of shit.

Just because some asshole is disappointed in the President, doesn't mean s/he speaks for Democrats.

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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:03 PM
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15. They have no family in the War
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:50 PM
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36. Deleted message
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:10 PM
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17. Oh lord.
CORPOFASCIST BAAAAAANKSTEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR *pop*
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:11 PM
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18. Isn't that special.
Another disappointed person who thrives on using 'corporatist' words. Instant turnoff.

Unrec
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:14 PM
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19. The difference between 'say' and 'do' is the essence of politics.
"In which he said things like. Fix SS that's easy just raise the cap."

He said lots of stuff like this.

When I suggested, back before the election, that people judge him by what he's already done rather than by what he says, I was pretty much universally put down as a negative-minded spoilsport.

The fact remains that the government has continued to move hard to the right during his presidency, while the population hasn't.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:14 PM
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20. Here, the "corporatist"
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 04:17 PM by ProSense
saved the economy and more.

<...>

This should not be an uphill struggle – much of the corporate sector, particularly bigger and more global businesses, is doing well in terms of profits and presumably, at the highest levels, compensation. But when exactly will this approach deliver jobs and reduce unemployment? And does it increase risks for the future?

<...>

In reality, the opposite was the case. Relative to any postwar recession, the rebound in profits during the Obama administration has been dramatic. To be sure, the end of 2008 was shocking to many entrepreneurs and executives, as credit was disrupted in a much more dramatic fashion than they thought imaginable. Large and immediate cuts in employment followed.

But then the government saved the failing financial sector. The means were controversial, but the end was essential – without private credit, the United States economy would have fallen far and for a long time.

<...>

Profits for the private sector fell no more than 20 percent from top to bottom in the cycle, and in the third quarter of last year (the latest available data from the Bureau of Economic Affairs), profits were back at the level of 2006. After the deep recessions of the early 1980s, it took at least three times as long for profits to come back to the same extent (I went through this comparison in more detail last week for The New York Times’s Room for Debate).

link


There is no question that more needs to be done and job creation needs to be a priority, but the economy is being strengthed.

<...>

• From the Chicago Business Barometer ™ Gained: The overall index increased to 68.8 from 66.8 in December. This was above consensus expectations of 65.0. Note: any number above 50 shows expansion.

"EMPLOYMENT strengthened to a height not seen since May 1984". The employment index increased sharply to 64.1 from 58.4.

"NEW ORDERS increased to the highest point since December 1983". The new orders index increased to 75.7 from 71.3.

This was a strong report.

link


More "disgrace" from the "corporatist" President: here, here, here, here and here.

Oh, the shame!


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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:15 PM
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21. I give it a rec,
I agree with a lot of it.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:23 PM
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24. So now you're quoting anonymous comments.
:rofl:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:26 PM
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28. hey it happens all the time
How many times have I seen anonymous posts from Daily KOS or other websites posted on here.

I'm not the first to do this.
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fishstickle Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:26 PM
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26. I give it a unrec
I think Obama saved us from catastrophic economic disaster. He isn't perfect in my eye's by a long shot, and I don't expect him to be, he is however good enough for me.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:51 PM
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37. I unrec as well...
For exactly the same reasons. Well said.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:26 PM
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27. Mr. Obama is a politician....nt
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:29 PM
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29. Obama isn't as strong as I had hoped, but I'm still glad I voted for him and I will do so again.
It's hard leading the country and dealing with people who publicly lie about you all day every day. Unfortunately I think Obama is too good a person for the job because he has too much integrity to make gut decisions and attack all the people who hate him. Still, I'm sure you couldn't have found a better person out there.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:33 PM
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31. GrainOfSand can blow me
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 04:34 PM by NNN0LHI
When the imbecile who wrote this tripe got to the part "but he fails to do anything about us", it becomes obvious that this persons elevator doesn't make it to the top floor.

The Dem Congress and President Obama tried like hell to save millions of union jobs by bailing out US automakers and over half the people who used the "Cash For Clunkers", program purchased from import car companies. Don't think that wasn't a kick in the ass. I think about that time Dem lawmakers kind of gave up. I know I would have.

Can't fix stupid.

Don
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barbiegeek Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:39 PM
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32. Yes, McCain/Palin. Yeah *snark*
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:45 PM
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33. But he has shown strength
when standing up to progressives....His 'weakness' only is apparent when standing up to 'opponents'/Republicans....

There is an assumption here that Obama is not a corporatist and that President Obama = Campaigner Obama....
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:47 PM
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34. good point
Obama has been at his most bold when dealing with his left flank.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:48 PM
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35. whatever
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:53 PM
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38. That person was listening to what he THOUGHT Obama said
during the campaign, instead of what Obama actually said. There's a lot of that going around. The correct statement should be, "Obama is not the distorted illusion of a president I voted for."

Unrecommended for misunderstanding Obama's positions, as stated, and listening to some internal Obama who isn't real.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:29 PM
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41. Campaign Obama vs President Obama
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