As much as I despise the man, we should give credit where credit is due

[Very_Boring_Name]

Lieberman really came through on DADT

[fascisthunter]

1. let us know when he sends his own children to war

so noble of him to allow gays to serve and die in the military. Yeah, he came through.

[Withywindle]

17. I see your point, but this rhetorical tack has always bothered me.

One's children are Other People. Even as a parent, one doesn't have the right to force one's kids to serve and die ANYWHERE against their will, regardless of the parents' political positions.

I say this as the daughter of a Vietnam-era draft resister who almost got disowned from his family because of it. I respect my great-grandfather and grandfather's service (WWI and WWII respectively) and I ALSO respect my father's principled objection to a war he thought was wrong, although his father supported it.

[fascisthunter]

18. it shouldn't bother you unless you are in a position of power

to send others children to die. And I'd hope if you did have that power you'd feel some sympathy for those other parents. That's what Lieberman has done and I doubt he gives a shit to speak plainly.

[eleny]

2. And so did Ben Nelson

[TheKentuckian]

3. He sure did. Must be desperate for cannon fodder for the unending wars he loves so much.

[Ozymanithrax]

4. People are often more complex than we like to believe.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

5. He's up for reelection in 2012 and has the lowest approval rating of any senator.

And yet, I am happy that he took the lead on this issue and stood up to his boyfriends, McCain and Graham.

[BlueIris]

6. Personally, I think Lieberman is doing this to look more progressive,

to make himself competitive with the Dem nominee for 2012. I've posted before and I'll post it again: Joe Lieberman will run for president in 2012. As a Republican.

[unblock]

9. this isn't a big departure for lieberman

he's always been more like a normal democrat socially.

he's just had a knack for picking a few BIG issues to go right-wing on and letting that define his image.

personally, i'd much, MUCH rather have a LOYAL and consistent left-leaning democrat, but he's really more democratic than republican if you look at his record as a whole.


as for a presidential run, no, i don't think that's in the cards for him.

[Warren Stupidity]

7. Nah, still hate him.

[Safetykitten]

8. No, still intense dislike of him.

[killbotfactory]

10. He realizes that the military needs as many people as possible

for all the wars he wants to start.

[Petrus Romanus]

11. Lieberman's always been one of our best votes on social issues.

If it weren't for his perpetual hard-on for Israel and "National Security," he'd be one of our better Senators.

[BlueCheese]

12. Yes, he really did.

[RKP5637]

13. Agree!!! n/t

[Paladin]

14. Lieberman Can Still Kiss My Ass.

Traitorous little bastard. Whatever good he did on DADT is offset a hundred times by his scummy, self-serving actions over the years. He makes my skin crawl, and he always will.....

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Stopped clock.

[Withywindle]

16. Agreed.

A friend of mine just pointed out that he came in to vote on Shabbos. He doesn't usually do that. It went way, way beyond lip service for him.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. I despise him enough that I won't start a thread to thank him