So Elton John is gullible as hell........or a liar.

[KansasVoter]

In the current Rolling Stone he says Rush is not anti-gay. And he did not play at his wedding just to get a million dollars.

I call Bullshit on that story.

If he really believed it then all he had to do was tell Rush, "You make an announcement on your show that you think gay couples should not be treated any different than any man/woman couple and I will play at your wedding!"

Or you could have publicly donated the million, or half of it anyway,h to pro-gay groups.

But he played at Rush's wedding and Rush is still slamming gay marriage.

Elton, just admit it, you wanted a million dollars and didn't care who it came from. I don't mind you making a million, just don't lie to justify it.

[undeterred]

1. Or possibly Elton John is an extremely gracious man

who is incapable of seeing the bad in people.

[KansasVoter]

4. LOL......or stupid.

[hlthe2b]

6. chuckle chuckle...

EJ has certainly never struck me as "pollyannish" about these things and though he spent time with the late Princess Di, I sort of doubt he got much closer than that to Mother Theresa or any other future saint.

Not knocking Elton personally, but his judgement seems a bit dependent on circumstance.

[sailor65]

9. Our marketing manager used to work in the record industry

She's met him many times and describes him exactly that way. A very accepting man with a gentle soul.

[KansasVoter]

12. Wow, I would describe that as gullible then.

[undeterred]

17. He seems like a true artist so that does not surprise me.

Its so unusual that its easy to misunderstand.

[Name removed]

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[Smarmie Doofus]

13. Lest we delude ourselves: this is not a strength:

>>>>incapable of seeing the bad in people.>>>>

[undeterred]

16. Then you've never met such a person.

[KansasVoter]

18. So you are OK with these people, most who are not rich like Elton, being taken.....

advantage of by mortgage companies, etc.

I would hope never to raise a child that gullible. Not in this world.

[undeterred]

24. It comes from strength, not weakness.

He's not being taken advantage of.

[KansasVoter]

26. He is not, people without a entourage would be.

[undeterred]

36. No, it has nothing to do with that.

[KansasVoter]

37. OK, what ever dream world you live in sounds great.

[pipi_k]

47. My youngest stepdaughter is that way...

nearly incapable of seeing the bad in people.

And you know what?

She's one of the strongest young women I know.

She has been through some real tough things, but because of her positive attitude, she always comes out winning in some way.

She and her husband met while they were both in San Diego about five years ago. She was done with her schooling...he was done in the USN. They weren't even married then. Instead of going back home to his family in TX, he followed her back here to New England and married her.

Why? Because he said she was the most positive person he has ever known, and must have been born under a lucky star.

So yes...sometimes it's a strength...

[Smarmie Doofus]

55. Yes. Sometimes. But we're talking about a 60 year old gay man who hangs around....

and fraternizes gregariously with someone who laughs about and unrepentently mocks gay men getting sick and dying.

There is something important missing in Elton, I'm afraid. His blindness is not , by any stretch, a strength.

[blondeatlast]

48. Thank you. I used to be "gracious" too--until it bit me in the butt

just once too often.

Now I'm afraid I've gone too far in the opposite direction.

[roguevalley]

25. no. did you see his 'rude vile pig' video?

[bullwinkle428]

30. If he did it for nothing, he MIGHT be considered "gracious"!

[walldude]

35. LOL.. The day before this he was talking shit about Billy Joel

needing to go to rehab.....

[FiveGoodMen]

2. He made three or four great albums in the 70's

Now he pals around with those who should be his worst enemies.

Should we even know his name anymore?

[donheld]

41. I should.

[hlthe2b]

3. Whether Rush is "anti-gay" or he simply exploits for profit....

those who are... how is that any better again?

[KansasVoter]

5. No better.

[Smarmie Doofus]

7. He's a political moron, I suspect.

"Gullible"... in your terms.

I doubt if he needs a million dollars. If he does, he'd better hire a better accounting team.... as 1 mill. should be chicken feed.

The Rush Limbaugh I know is the guy who played " I know I'll never love this way again" as his lead in to his "AIDS UPDATES "in the 80's.

Yeah, yeah, ... funny stuff.

If you're a Nazi.

[Newest Reality]

8. The show must go on!

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages."

- William Shakespeare

[denem]

11. I got some bad news for you sunshine. Pink isn't well. he's back at the hotel.

[RandomThoughts]

14. wrong intent, that was what I was saying

[blondeatlast]

49. You're William Shakespeare?!

that post explains a lot but I'm still befuddled.

[RandomThoughts]

54. I am Robert Eastwood

and I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

Reduced Shakespeare Company
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Oc39cFUHI



Horatio training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Y-M6q7LL0




Ignore the label trap in title, that was put there to mess with you. not part of what I believe. Here is the funny part, they do that to scare you, it only has power if you accept it. I don't I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

So here is the question does the works of those people and the writings of Shakespeare get to be changed because an intelligent person says some label is on something, or do you think of the heart of many people.

Think about who is trying to use your fear against you and why.


The title name was added after second google search is that all you see? I would not have posted it if playing that game.

And I don't believe in noble blood lines :D


Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous fortune;
Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them:

Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann's Earth Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg8cDmi7-U8

[JI7]

15. how about they are both Business Men

[KansasVoter]

19. Then Elton just needs to admit it and not cover for Rush.

[JI7]

29. that's part of the business(profit making) to cover for him

but ask yourself if rush was really anti gay why would he have a gay man at his party and pay him a lot of money ?

it's clear Rush's whole radio thing is to make money among the dumbasses.

it's not just the right, look at how Arianna gained a following on the left and will now make millions .

[KansasVoter]

33. I think Rush did it for his Wife only.

[underpants]

20. Elton will play anywhere anytime for money since he found out he was broke

the "Dualing Pianos" tour was mostly about Elton and Billie Joel (and I do like them both) digging themselves out of holes. Joel found out he was broke at dinner one night at a NYC restaurant. Flat out broke, no money. His former brother-in-law from his first marriage had Power of Attorney and robbed him ....well broke. Elton just lived lavishly- coke in the 80's and buying every new release every Tuesday at record stores in Atlanta. Penthouse apartment overlooking Atlanta and he paid no attention to his finances.

[donheld]

39. Yea right

[karynnj]

21. Ummm - Assume for a minute that Rush was openly supportive of gender equality.ity

Would that be enough given how evil he is on so many other subjects?

[KansasVoter]

28. It is a start! Disagree?

[karynnj]

44. First off it didn't happen - and though it is a start, it is FAR too little

It is also ironic that when evaluating Democrats - if they are not "progressive" on even one issue, there are calls for primaries. Yet, with Rush, who is atrocious on everything and a demagogue, who regularly twists the truth on everything to demonize any Democrat - simply agreeing to marriage equity would make working for him (as EJ did) acceptable?

[blondeatlast]

50. + thumbsup. nt

[Canuckistanian]

22. Elton John is not worth defending any more

I don't know WHAT his thought processes are, but he seems to enjoy pissing off progressives.

From his concerts in segregated South Africa to his playing for Rush Limpballs, he seems to be raising his middle finger to decent society.

[msongs]

23. neither Obama nor Rush support gay marriage - so is Elton's approval of Obama also bad? nt

[KansasVoter]

27. Wow, only in the GD can Obama = Limbaugh! Congrats!

[dionysus]

46. thats not your best smear, you can do much better.

[UTUSN]

31. O.P. left out "he's an a-hole"?!1 nt/

[PBS Poll-435]

32. I do love how a certain thought will rattle around in that dog cage that you call a skull

Until it bothers you enough to say something.

[KansasVoter]

42. Why the insullt? PM me please!

[sailor65]

34. He gives away huge chunk of money (Much of it his own)

to all sorts of charities.....what did you do today?


•Aids Life
•American Foundation for AIDS Research
•American Foundation for Equal Rights
•Andre Agassi Charitable Foundation
•Breast Cancer Research Foundation
•Bridge School
•Caudwell Children
•Children's Tumor Foundation
•Elton John AIDS Foundation
•Exploring The Arts
•Food Bank For New York City
•Gus Dudgeon Foundation
•HELP USA
•Hillsides
•Joey Dipaolo AIDS Foundation
•Kids
•Love Our Children USA
•mothers2mothers
•Move For AIDS
•MusiCares
•National Youth Theatre
•Oxfam
•PDSA
•RADD
•Rainforest Foundation Fund
•Riders For Health
•Sporting Chance Clinic
•Starkey Hearing Foundation
•Terrence Higgins Trust
•The Lunchbox Fund
•The Rainforest Foundation
•True Colors Fund
•Volunteering England
•War Child
•Women's Sports Foundation
•World AIDS Day


Elton John AIDS foundation
Since the mid-1980's, Elton John has channeled the grief over the loss of many dear friends to HIV/AIDS into various efforts to help raise money for charitable organizations supporting AIDS research and providing vital services to people with HIV/AIDS. In 1992, frustrated and angered by the growing magnitude of the epidemic and how comparatively little was being done to help those affected by the virus, he decided to bring focus to all of his AIDS-related work by establishing the Elton John AIDS Foundation (EJAF) in the United States (EJAF-US, registered in New York). The following year, he also established this foundation in the United Kingdom (EJAF-UK, registered in London).
Today, EJAF is one of the world's leading nonprofit HIV/AIDS organizations supporting innovative HIV prevention programs, efforts to eliminate stigma and discrimination associated with HIV/AIDS, and direct care and support services for people living with HIV/AIDS. Together, both entities have raised over $150 million to support such programs in 55 countries around the globe since inception. EJAF supports its work through proceeds from concerts, arts-related exhibitions, and special events; cause-related marketing projects and licensed merchandising; and voluntary contributions (large and small) from individuals, corporations, and foundations.

EJAF-US's grant-making supports programs in the United States, Canada, the Caribbean, and Latin America. EJAF-UK focuses its grant making on projects in Africa, Asia, and Europe.

Without question, EJAF's greatest asset and strength is its Founder and Chairman, Sir Elton John. No mere figurehead, Sir Elton serves as EJAF's chief fund-raiser - conducting benefit concerts, meeting with major donors, foundations and corporations, and participating in numerous public events. Also, as a highly visible and outspoken advocate, he has testified before Congress, spoken at press conferences, writes editorials and delivers speeches at events and awards ceremonies. His status as an entertainment icon and his many years as a dedicated AIDS activist and philanthropist bring tremendous visibility and credibility to EJAF's work.

[KansasVoter]

43. Then make a statement about rush and why you took the money!

[Puregonzo1188]

38. Didn't he also play Sun City?

[blondeatlast]

51. Yes, and if IIRC, his explanation for that was as vapid as his explanation for playing

RL's wedding.

[proud2BlibKansan]

40. Like Elton John really NEEDS a million dollars?

Get real.

[elias7]

45. Wow. When did the folks at DU get so judgmental?

Reading this thread is like being in a room of opinionated assholes

[blondeatlast]

52. Gee, 'coz we aren't on a politcal message board or anything... nt

[Blue-Jay]

53. LOL! You must be new here.

:rofl:

Being judgemental is what we do best.