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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:37 PM
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Anderson Cooper Can't Carry Robert Fisk's Jockstrap.
Edited on Wed Feb-09-11 10:41 PM by HuckleB
Let's not lose perspective via media hype.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/

If you want to know what's happening the ME, Fisk is a great source. Cooper, well, meh.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:43 PM
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1. Yep.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:51 AM
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28. Yup.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:55 PM
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2. I doubt Cooper is interested in the job.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 10:57 PM
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3. True. True. -eom-
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:06 PM
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4. he is the best there is
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:11 PM
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5. +1
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:11 PM
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6. A DUer unrecced this?
Scary.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:35 PM
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11. I hope you mean Fisk.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:42 PM
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13. I found Robert Fisk before the Iraq war and remained a devoted follower
through those dark times. I don't know if there is an Englishman that has more knowledge of the Middle East than him.

I'm not a fan on anything on CNN
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:14 AM
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19. read his book about when he disguised himself and traveled with Arabs?
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:52 AM
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29. Unlikely there's a Westerner with knowledge of the Middle East than him. n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:13 PM
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7. Sadly, Anderson Cooper was born with a silver spoon up his ass.
He is one of the Ruling Class as are most of the so-called journalists on TV.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:19 PM
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44. And this is his fault how?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 06:05 PM
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47. I didnt claim it to be his fault. Sadly, it affects his journalism. He sees the world thru designer
glasses. Dont expect members of the Ruling Class to help us out. Maybe give us some "cake".
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:18 PM
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8. Cooper's a tool.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:32 PM
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9. I don't know about that, but I'm not sure where the perspective is right now.
Especially since more than one unrec has come down on this thread.

Bizarre!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:34 PM
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10. Ever since I saw that egomaniac showing himself rescuing a kid on the news
I have no time for his BS. His swashbuckling reporter image he tries so hard to craft is gone as well since he took a powder on Egypt after getting beaten up. Fucking poseur that he is.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:37 PM
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12. No argument here.
But yet another DUer has voted for Cooper with another unrec.

WTF?

:hi:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:15 AM
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20. People, DUers especially, are easy to lead
Edited on Thu Feb-10-11 12:15 AM by HEyHEY
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:45 PM
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14. There is no one like Fisk. n/t
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:40 AM
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22. +1
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:50 PM
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15. what's your problem with Anderson , he has been doing well covering Egypt protests
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:52 PM
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16. He's done an adequate reporting job in Egypt.
That doesn't make him anything more than an adequate reporter.

Fisk, on the other hand, has been doing the gruntwork in the ME for decades. He is the one with perspective.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:39 AM
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21. Cooper hops on whatever bandwagon he can, gets his info from Reuters
Then films himself re-hashing the shit and throwing in a couple of his own personal eyewitness accounts. Guy's a tool. I haven't seen her in a while, but Amanpour was the best CNN ever had.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:46 AM
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24. He's about an inch deep. n/t
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-11 11:55 PM
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17. Cooper is America's Robert Fisk
That should tell you all you need to know about the American media.

PS Just kidding. I know there are equivalents to Fisk in this country, but a lot of people may think Cooper is this era's Dan Rather or something.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:09 AM
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18. .
Best post of the night.

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:45 AM
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23. Seriously. Al Jazeera English is on LINK TV because of Egypt
for hours a day right now so, I got to hear a candid discussion of the election atrocity we're committing in Haiti right now. I almost fell out of my chair: no kissing up to our government, two informed guests. It was almost too much for me. :)
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:48 AM
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25. +1
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:51 AM
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26. Fisk was on the phone with Amy Goodman this morning.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:53 AM
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27. Sweet! Thanks. I will now be away from DU for a while.
:hi:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 06:33 PM
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48. Got me...
:spray:
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:22 AM
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30. It is so hard to keep up with who is currently bringing the tablets down
from the mountain.

Just yesterday Cooper was 'on fire' and/or 'taking on Olberman's mantle', depending on the thread one clicked on.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 10:44 AM
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31. Uh, Robert Fisk has been living and reporting on the ME for decades.
This is no cable news flash in the pan.

That's the point.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:22 PM
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38. Uh, I guess it's true what the character in the movie "Roadhouse" said:
"Opinions vary."
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 06:35 PM
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49. On experience in reporting on the Middle East? No, not even close.
Opinions are opinions, but the slightest degree of research into comparing the careers of these two gents reveals hard data that's quite germane to the argument made by the OP.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 08:41 PM
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51. Nice pointless response.
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:31 AM
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32. Sigh. Anderson Cooper in a jockstrap ... sigh
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:36 PM
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45. +1!
I'd love to see that. :hi:
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 04:14 PM
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46. Thanks for the +!!
It's nice to see someone else here has their priorities straight. :P
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:32 AM
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33. Huh
and Duh!!
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:35 AM
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34. He was targeted by anti mubarak thurs.
He was struck repeatedly,time to leave.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:38 AM
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35. Fisk is print reporter. Cooper is TV
Fisk is educated on the issues in a way that Cooper certainly isn't. I still don't get your need to praise him by disparaging Cooper. It's lame.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:40 AM
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36. It has become apparent that many at DU don't know who Fisk is.
Next.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:23 PM
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39. Well, aren't we just woefully uninformed. Good for you for knowing. nt
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 08:40 PM
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50. Not the point at all.
But knock yourself out with the passive aggressive BS.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:31 PM
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37. Why would he want to carry someone else's jock strap?
Ick.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:30 PM
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40. He is a brilliant reporter who always told the truth
reported facts, no 'both sides are doing it' for him, as we here in the U.S. get all the time.

He is a REAL journalist, someone who has been reporting on the stories the U.S. media is just beginning to notice now, for decades. Too bad there were so few like him. The thugs of the world would have been toppled long ago if we had real journalists in this country like Robert Fisk. It was to him and a few others, like Dahr Jamail, that we had to turn to to get the truth over the past decade.

It's nice that AC is now finally telling the truth about the Egyptian regime. But has he revealed the facts about the close relationship it has to this government? How this government sent people to be tortured there under the supervision of the guy the U.S. is now supporting to take over from Mubarak, Suleiman?

AC will only go so far to tell the truth and only when it has been decided there is no more denying it.

But Fisk never holds back facts as he finds them, in war zones, at the top of governments, or anywhere else. Maybe that is why the Brits are a bit more informed than Americans and why Americans get so excited when someone like AC finally acts like a real journalist, for a while.

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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:55 PM
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41. Fisk is great. You wont see anyone like him in the US corporate media.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:13 PM
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42. Qiute true, PureGonzo.
Fisk predicted the mess we're in back in 2002.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 03:18 PM
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43. Perhaps AC doesn't care to wrestle with you for the privilege.
I think Cooper has done an admirable job of reporting on the turmoil in Cairo.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 09:21 PM
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52. Good for you.
All he's done is a basic reporter's job. He clearly knows very little about the matter he's covering, however.
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