cali
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Thu Feb-10-11 06:06 AM
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Here's some more of what Obama is proposing cutting> |
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Forest Service Community Block Grants (serves the poor in both rural and urban areas) Army Corps of Engineers The EPA Ag subsidies The only thing on that list I agree with (tentatively) is the Ag cut. There will be more. Hey, Obama, how about not funding your high speed rail project and maintaining LIHEAP and The CBGs? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703310104576134722456270778.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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Thu Feb-10-11 06:22 AM
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1. so the wars cost us $3B per week.. . . . . hmmmm . . . . I wonder if there might be another source |
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Thu Feb-10-11 06:24 AM
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2. How about a cut to Strategic Missile Defense |
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Cut foreign aid to Israel
End the illegal war in Iraq
Cut the Department of Homeland Security
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:08 AM
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Thu Feb-10-11 06:25 AM
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Thu Feb-10-11 06:53 AM
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4. With dams and levies in critical decay all over, I agree CUT Corp of Engineers |
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because if the Federal government doesn't get out of the water infrastructure business we are going to be drowning in debt. It would be SOOoooo much better to be JUST drowning.
And you know those Ag subsidies? Getting those subsidies also requires enrollment in conservation programs...those programs that are the number one protection against non-point pollution. Clearly it'd be better to have all the highly erodable slopes covered with cow and pig manure spread raw onto the land so that every river and stream in the country is starved of oxygen and choked by mats of dying algae.
Generations of Americans who dreamed of making a better life for their children and great grand children must be spinning in their graves. What sort of family values, what sort of national pride leads a nation into abandoning stewardship and the dream of passing on a better world to those who follow in the future?
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Thu Feb-10-11 06:58 AM
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5. "What sort of family values . . . ." - greed and accumulation of weatlh |
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:17 AM
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7. Horrible proposals. Hopefully, someone will stand up and stop this. |
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:17 AM
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8. Is that a comprehensive list?... |
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I haven't seen his entire budget proposal, have you?
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:19 AM
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10. no, it's not comprehensive. |
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and the entire budget will be released Monday.
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:18 AM
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9. How will the Bachmann family farm survive? |
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:35 AM
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Thu Feb-10-11 08:59 AM
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12. Just keep in mind, RE: Ag cut |
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Farm subsidies are payment for government control of private enterprise. Subsidies pay farmers to grow specific products in specific amounts. Without subsidies, farmers, as other business owners can and will grow what they want in what ever quantities they want, just as you would do in their position. The government tells farmers to grow x number of acres of x product...in return we will insure that the price for your product will be $x. This system makes overall farm production predictable. Without such a system, farm product consumers are at the mercy of quasi farm cartels. If, for instance, corn prices dropped due to a glut this year, next year the corn growers association would strongly urge corn growers to reduce production next year, driving the price up, resulting in the same or greater profits for producers with less work and less up front expense in seed, fertilizer, fuel, and equipment costs...it would be a no brainer from a producer standpoint.
Another function of subsidies has been soil conservation and wildlife management. The references to 'paying farmers not to grow', refers to programs like the CRP program. This program pays a similar rate per acre for land which must be planted into high quality forage capable of supporting a variety of birds and other wildlife. Additionally, CRP grasses renew the soil. Without those programs, farmers will farm every acre of their ground, 'from ditch bank, to ditch bank' as they used to say.
Expect dramatic price fluctuation in farm commodities and increased costs of fulfilling trade agreements with other nations..this alone may exceed the cost of subsidies. The US makes multi-year agreements for trade of ag products with other nations. Those agreements have set quantities and prices. Without control of production, these contracts will be at the same place consumers will be..that is not knowing the volume of production. A year which is a low production in attempt to raise prices could cost our government a ton of money to fulfill the existing agreements.
People not near the farm industry often are clueless about the costs and risks associated with farming. It is a very expensive business wrought with potential pitfalls. Farmers will survive without subsidies.
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Thu Feb-10-11 02:45 PM
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14. cutting ag subsidies = higher food prices, more unstable food supplies. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-10-11 02:46 PM by Hannah Bell
and permanent destruction of us croplands & reserve lands.
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Thu Feb-10-11 02:55 PM
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15. "how about not funding your high speed rail project and maintaining LIHEAP and The CBGs?" |
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Which is why bits and pieces of information is useless.
How about cutting defense instead of high-speed rail in order to maintain LIHEAP?
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