The Extreme Lefties In Our Party Should Be Kissing Obama's Ass Over The Tax Compromise

[stopbush]

One fact says it all: 80 votes in the Senate for cloture to move this bill forward.

What does that tell you?

It tells you that for all the screaming and whining and name calling, the fact is that the Ds in the Senate wanted this bill and they wanted Obama to take the bullet for it. The fact is that he's a big enough man that he did.

The Senate could have fashioned their own bill YEARS ago. They passed on that. They knew something had to be done, and they did nothing. They knew that the only way a bill on the bush tax cuts was going to be passed in the Senate was if the upper-income cuts were extended in some form.

But they didn't have the guts to do it because there was an election afoot.

So Obama - bless his heart - has actually come to the rescue of the Ds and the progressive wing of the Party by making the same deal the Senate Ds would have had to have made in the end. But by doing it himself, by taking the onus of holding his nose and making extending the bush tax cuts HIS decision, rather than that of the Reid and the other Senate Ds, he allows himself to be the target of liberal scorn while providing them with, 1. the basic legislation they would have done themselves and, 2. cover for their own inaction and cowardice.

This is a measure of the greatness of this man. That most DUers don't get this is sad, but it doesn't make it any less true.

[lonestarnot]

1. Unrec.

[closeupready]

59. Me, too. Not that it seems to make any difference in that 0 figure.

n/t

[L. Coyote]

127. Likewise, and posting this: Obama plan will raise taxes on 150,000,000 Americans

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x8236

[asdjrocky]

2. Best K&U of the day.

[Ichingcarpenter]

121. Kanzen Jisatsu Manyuaru

マニュアル

[asdjrocky]

129. Are you suggesting I kill myself?

That's a pretty weird post dude.

[Ichingcarpenter]

134. Sorry....

wrong area, didn't mean to respond to you.

Well, I thought the liberal attack by the OP sucked.

[asdjrocky]

135. Either way, you might want to reconsider.

I've seen what that does to people, my friend.

[Ichingcarpenter]

136. 'The Extreme Lefties In Our Party Should Be Kissing Obama's Ass"

Sorry..... I would rather kill myself.

[asdjrocky]

139. To each his own. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

148. I kiss no politicians ASS

To each YOUR OWN.

[asdjrocky]

149. Nor do I.

Peace.

[Ichingcarpenter]

150. Yet you accepted the OP's shit.

for a moment in order to respond to me.

[asdjrocky]

152. No, I did not accept anything.

And really, what good is an argument between us going to do? I don't seek one, and I would encourage you to not seek one as well.

I wish you no ill, and my hopes are that you have a good day.

[Ichingcarpenter]

153. Well at least you understand my Japanese

But not culturally in its context.

[asdjrocky]

154. Lol, no, I'm not Japanese.

And it is to my regret that I'm born immersed in American culture. You know, Santa, the Easter Bunny and working til you die. It's true, I have a uniquely American view and it often shows when talking with my friends from Palistine, or Jordan, even Mexico and yes, Japan.

I am, however, always willing to listen and learn, I find it's my own sneaky way of being un-American.

[Ichingcarpenter]

155. I'm Past the Point of being 'UNAMERICAN'

Nationalism is what they use to
corrupt you.

[Angry Dragon]

3. .............

[bajamary]

4. well........

I gather that standing for real financial reform, for the middle class, for the poor, for the unemployed and keeping social security safely away from those that wish to destroy it (aka being sanctimonious) will stop me from ever supporting Mr Obama ever again. Then so be it.

As a child of FDR Democrat parents, I will not stand by as Mr Obama and his uber-wealthy friends in both parties, destroy the American middle class and the great upward mobility that this nation has given my great grandparents, and all those who still come to our shores for the opportunity to build a better life with the freedoms guaranteed by the laws of this great nation.

No, I will never vote for Mr Obama again. Let alone kiss his a**

I am looking forward to supporting a FDR Democrat in the 2012 primary race for president, and one who understands that this great country is only great because of the opportunity it gives all citizens.

These tax laws will actually increase the taxes paid by family who make $40,000 or less and by those of us individuals who make $20,000 of less.

Yet the very top percent of the wealthy will continue to pay far less than they ever have paid, and as a direct result, our national deficit will be increased by another $850 Billion dollars.

Shame on those who vote for this monstrosity.

May the Ghosts of the New Deal haunt them, their children and their grandchildren forever.

[stopbush]

42. There will be no serious primary challenge for Obama in 2012.

Plenty of time for you to make other plans.

[Javaman]

101. Not now there isn't...

and by serious do you mean, anyone?

Right now, as the saying goes, I would vote for a yellow dog before I would vote again for Obama.

Please insert your favorite anti-Obama epithet toward me.

[The Gunslinger]

114. You support Democratic Party ideals that help the middle class...

How EXTREME you are. That's just far left commie talk. You should just vote for Democrats and follow blindly when they act like republicans. (end sarcasm)

[dflprincess]

5. Who would have thought that anyone on this board would claim "greatness"

for a president willing to undermine Social Security?

[Foo Fighter]

56. You must be new here.

Everything Obama does is great. Even when it's the same thing Bush would have done (like passing a bill that gives tax cuts for the rich, for instance).

Bush advocated for the privatizing of SS and was rightly excoriated for it as that would have been the beginning of the end for the program. Obama did an end-run around and came up with a bill that will lead to the eventual dismantling of SS but that's OK because Obama has a "D" behind his name. Get with the program here.

[Goldstein1984]

60. Probably using the same measuring stick...

used to award the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Toucano]

6. If that bill is a measure of greatness, there is truly NO HOPE.

Since I know it isn't anything resembling "greatness", I can thank you for a good laugh!

[bullwinkle428]

7. Yeah, Bernie Sanders should be ashamed of himself.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[stopbush]

40. 8 hours on the floor of the Senate earns Bernie the support of a measly NINE Ds and 5 Rs.

45 Ds voted against Bernie. 83% of Ds voted with Obama and against Bernie.

There's not many Senatorial Ds left for the extremists to like, are there?

Al Franken. Sheldon Whitehouse. Robert Menedez. Chuck Schumer. Debbie Stabenow. Bob Casey. Byron Dorgan. Dick Durbin. Amy Klobuchar. Barbara Milkulski. Harry Reid. Barbara Boxer. Traitors all, right?

:nopity:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

41. Then the problem is with the Democratic establishment

The DINOs all need progressive challengers.

[stopbush]

44. Er, see my OP.

YES - the problem was with the spineless Senate Ds who wouldn't make this a campaign issue. Wouldn't bring forward their own version of the legislation.

That's my point.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

55. We differ in that I think Obama failed to show leadership

(if he indeed is concerned about ordinary people instead of sucking up to the rich and powerful).

He should have announced that he would veto any bill that extended the tax cuts. And then done it. And sent every Dem home to go on their local radio and TV stations and give newspaper interviews and put stuff up on their websites and tell their staffers to post in online forums that the Republicans were acting like 2-year-olds and not willing to help desperate Americans because they thought it was more important to give a gold-plated Christmas present to the billionaires.

I swear, the Dem establishment either has the worst PR team in the world or it is complicit with the Republicans.

[Confusious]

76. He should have pumeled them over the head with it

The republicans have no heart. The republicans don't care about children. The republicans don't care about working families. the republicans....


He just let it go.....

[stopbush]

108. Yes, that worked so well in the midterms.

Some people around here have problems with short-term memory.

[Confusious]

156. Really?

As far as I remember, he didn't do shit during the midterms.

The "Democrats" ran away from everything he did.

[Hawkowl]

124. Complicit

They are complicit. Nobody is that stupid. They are virtually all millionaires and plan on getting richer. They really don't give a shit about the average person IF it goes against there own interests.

[MH1]

94. No, they don't. They need progressive challengers WHO CAN WIN IN THEIR DISTRICTS.

And we showed how that was done in the 2010 mid-terms right!! Oh wait ...

[creon]

144. I agree

Most of the elected Democrats need to be replaced by people with a greater sense of urgency and commitment than the current ones.

[upi402]

74. All Hail the UNIPARTY

Do not struggle, it will only be worse for you.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. K&U&A&FO&ES&D

[Toucano]

14. YOU'VE discovered Acronym Tourette's.

;-)

[HughBeaumont]

96. OK, I got everything but the "A" . . .

:rofl:

Yes, we should be applauding the blasting of yet another canyon hole in the debt to appease the rich (who we should be dragging through the streets, not placating)!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

97. ...lert.

Edit: I forgot to add "IAF".

[quinnox]

9. wow, we should kiss the ass of Obama for continuing Bush tax cuts

for rich and proving his words on this that he repeated a million times to get elected were worthless or a lie. Mind boggling.

[Foo Fighter]

61. Oh, absolutely.

Just like we should kiss Bush's ass for passing them in the first place because if they're a good thing now, they must have been a good thing back then, right? After all, just look at how many jobs those tax cuts created.:sarcasm:

Mind boggling indeed.

[Octafish]

93. You're not looking ahead.

[Raksha]

137. Great cartoon, Octafish! 19th century style, 21st century relevance.

Wish I could recommend just the cartoon, because I'm sure as hell not recommending this topic.

[Toucano]

10. oops.

wrong response.

:-)

[yourout]

11. Do you really believe what you are shoveling?

[stopbush]

45. Yes I do. Think about it.

[Scurrilous]

12. K & R

Epic subject line! :thumbsup:

[JackDragna]

13. Nwhahahah!

My god, you're a comedian. Let's see..hundreds of billions for the wealthy, a fraction of that for unemployment benefits. Then he goes on TV and scolds us for clinging to principle. My god, if we get any more "greatness" from this charlatan, we'll all go under.

[gratuitous]

15. What does it tell me?

It tells me that we need some new Senators.

But by all means, crow about this legislative "victory." I'm not sure if I want to keep a log of folks who are happy and excited about this, as I think it is one of the most disastrous pieces of legislation to come down the pike in a long time, and I'm including NAFTA and the hideously misnamed USA PATRIOT Act in that estimation. It's not kind to kick people when they're down, and the misery that's coming thanks to this horror is going to make a lot of paupers out of today's applauders. They just refuse to believe it.

[derby378]

16. Uh, he BROKE a campaign pledge...

And we're supposed to kiss his ass for doing so? Sounds like bait-and-switch to me...

[Pirate Smile]

67. He would have broke a campaign pledge if he let taxes go up on 98% of the American public but people

here seem to cheer that idea.

[Confusious]

17. More a measure of how much a sucker he is

A "great man" or "great person" would have never been in the position in the first place.

2 years from now, we'll be back in the same spot, hell, one year from now when extended unemployment expires ( 1 year is all he could get? ppppffffttt.)

[dflprincess]

21. I fear we're the suckers

We're the ones who voted for him.

[Confusious]

27. Feels like it, don't it. nt

[Better Believe It]

18. I take it you accept the attack on Social Security included in the bill as a necessary "compromise".

Please explain why it was necessary and unavoidable.

Thank you.

[Indydem]

26. Don't you GET IT???

OBAMA wanted the 2%, not the Repukes. He GOT that. Thats part of the awesomeness that he got out of extending the fucking tax cuts for those rich bastards.

[Name removed]

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[Chan790]

20. Unrec for being delusional.

That might be the most logically-contorted thing I read all day.

[Confusious]

25. I can to better!

You all just don't see what a great man Nevil chamberlain was. He set the entire thing up so he could take the bullet and Churchill could take over.

Someday you will all see.

[Chan790]

51. You might be my hero for that one.

So many here are so unwilling to see how very like Chamberlain President Obama is.

I'm not one of them.

[Andy823]

22. K&R

I totally agree! Congress had their chance, and they were to damned scared to come up with a bill and take a vote "BEFORE" the elections! They were cowards and now they are taking credit for "standing" up for the people while the president gets all the BS from those who should be pissed off at congress!

All I see going are democrats buying into the right wing BS from the trolls that keep on posting so much BS here! Every time I read a post from someone trying to get democrats to "stay" home and not vote, or to find someone to run against the president, I see either a troll trying to divide the board, or one of the long time "Obama" haters spewing the same old BS, or those who are gullible enough to believe that the man who has done more in less than two years than most presidents do in two terms, the man who's administration has created more jobs in less than two years than Bush did in 8, and the man who has a very long list of accomplishments is a bum!

Thank you for posting some reality!

[butterfly77]

107. +10

:dem:

[JoseGaspar]

23. Say what?

Lemme get this straight...

According to you, almost all of the Democrats in the Senate are sell-out tools who wanted to support upper-income tax cuts to begin with, but didn't want to get caught doing it...

Sooooo...

Obama stepped up and played the grand master tool all on his lonesome because he is a "great man"?

And this post is supposed to be in support of whom?

[scarletwoman]

24. I'll kiss NO politician's ass, thank you very much.

They're supposed to be public SERVANTS, not our fucking rulers.

Obama is the sorriest excuse for a Democrat that I've ever seen in my 61 years. Same goes for most of the Senate so-called "Democrats".

They work for the wealthy elite, they don't work for us. I'll be damned if I'll EVER kiss the asses of millionaire politicians who think we should be grateful for the pathetic crumbs they drop from the table of the plutocrats while they stab us in the back.

Fuck ALL of them!

[Johonny]

28. I'll kiss the ass of the top 1 % that own him and them

kissing the ass of the middlemen is beneath me.

[BulletproofLandshark]

29. You people are as lost as our esteemed "leadership" in the Senate is.

Obama deserves every bit of scorn from the left that comes his way. He abandoned us long before we abandoned him.

[Autumn]

30. I'm sorry you have such low standards

as a Democrat. un rec

[rurallib]

31. I will watch to see what develops. Opening social security

for attacks from the right for the first time greatly disturbs me.
Getting maneuvered into an all or nothing position greatly disturbs me. Harry Reid gets a lot of blame on that score.
Losing the build America bonds greatly disturbs me.
Kicking the can down the road yet again greatly disturbs me.

I think some may see a great victory here. I see the Republicans getting so much of what they wanted once again by simply standing up to Obama that I believe his and the Democratic bargaining positions are now gone. Let us see where this leads.
We are still waiting on health insurance (nee health care reform), the bank bill was weak, the stimulus tepid. There has been little real world change from these except college kids getting extended coverage so far.
I expect the health insurance to be greatly changed by the time it is implemented. I also expect that social security and medicare will be on the firing line, thanks in some measure to this great addition to the deficit.

But I am tired of arguing this. I will no more persuade you than vice-versa.
I have been invited off this board several times today. I am not a wild eyed lefty. But today I am being branded.
I do know that give a republican a small hole and they will rip the dome open.

[KansasVoter]

32. So trust the senate? LOL

[aquart]

33. My first unrec ever.

[hulka38]

34. The Senate sucks too.

I guess our tent is so huge that people can't help but stray into it every once in a while.

[DontTreadOnMe]

35. When the Repugs take over all 3 branches in 2012...

they will overturn all of Obama's "accomplishments".

Obama will be left with the legacy that he was the first Dem to take a strike on Social Security. That is ALL he will be remembered for...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

43. No one will be able to tell the difference

and the DLCers will run around whining, "We can't do anything because we don't have a majority."

But when they DID have a majority, they let the Republicanites stop them with imaginary filibusters.

[scarletwoman]

48. +1,000!

Love the "imaginary filibusters" bit. :yourock:

[Major Hogwash]

63. And you'll still be here at DU then blaming the Democrats, as per the norm.

And that is the problem with this forum.
They can't get behind the President even when he is a Democrat.

Who was going to be the one who was going to tell the 2 million Americans whose unemployment benefits run out at the end of the month, sorry, we couldn't agree to renew your benefits IN SPITE OF THE FACT that we have a majority in BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS!?!?!

[Confusious]

75. I could get behind him

If he:

Made a single payer system.
Made meaningful reforms to wall street and the banks.
Upheld the laws of the country.
Didn't give tax breaks to the rich.

Everyone talks about ALL the GREAT things he's done. These things are what he will be remembered for, for GOOD or BAD, mostly bad IMO, the rest are small fry.

Of course, when these things go through the system, if it passes, it's because of Obama, if it fails, it's because of congress.

If you want me to get behind this guy now, you might as well place me behind boner.

[Javaman]

102. +1000 nt

[EmeraldCityGrl]

36. My how Democratic of you.

Kissing the ass of greatness being such a Democratic tendency and all.

:sarcasm:

[EFerrari]

37. LOL

[Ozymanithrax]

38. A college professor defined greatness in a president this way...

A great President is one who sees something that needs to be done, that nobody wants to do, and does it anyway.

If this turns out all right, and ten or twenty years we are saying, we were wrong about Obama, we might consider him great.

But we are, at least, a decade away from any claim to greatness or abysmal suckitude.

[Confusious]

77. FDR. nt

[Marr]

88. In this particular case, he's extending a ten year old policy that's brought nothing but

disaster. You can pretty well bet that the critics won't be proven wrong on this one.

[somone]

39. Yeah, I bow before the supreme greatness of Obama

I can't wait to make a special trip to Mount Rushmore to venerate his statue

[still_one]

46. So let me understand your logic. If he pushes a bill that will hurt social security, we should all

be relieved because he is taking the heat for it, and somehow in your imaginination protecting the Senate Democrats from taking the blame?

He pushed this compromise, NOT the Senate, but even if the Senate did want this compromise if he felt the compromise was wrong, it would make him LESS not more of a person. I suggest he signed it because he didn't have a problem signing it.

If there are Democrats in the Senate who are for it, in two years when the deficiet is a trillion more, essentially no new jobs are created from it, and they need to cut social security because of it, I suspect there won't be too many progressives ready to congratulate him

[dana_b]

58. true

I'm also not too happy with my Senators and I'm pretty sure my congressman will follow suit. People who are all for this today are going to be pretty dismayed in a few years when they are gutting SS.

[Confusious]

69. But WWHHHHOOOO could have seen that happen?

I mean, it just popped out of nowhere. How could we have known?

[Individualist]

47. DLC talking points. No sale!

[newspeak]

49. wait-I'm having a hard time just getting pass "extreme lefties"

Did ya'll know that FDR was nothing but a damn communist. A communist, I tell ya. And Eisenhower who stated that a politician who messes with SS, it's political suicide. Another damn commie.

I stated before the midterm elections, that I wanted to see the house and senate filled with democrats--I wanted to see if any major progressive economic policies would be realized (another words "put your money where your mouth is"). But, if the repukes gained the majority in one or both houses, it would be cover to implement some very nasty policies. Ahh, the great american stage and most politicians missed their acting call. I just love some of that faux concern and crying--Boner especially does it so well. Sob Sob, those poor billionaires (sniff) (sniff) you can't expect children of billionaires to pay taxes-think of the children.

We can argue back and forth, but in two years, let's see where we, the people, really stand. In two years, let's see if we lose even more ground because of this obnoxious bill-and, let's see if the repukes are still going to be crying over the deficit (a deficit that they clearly are responsible for under Little Boot's reign). And then we can look at which way the winds blow for SS. Watch the theater and drama brought to you by our own greedy, self-serving supposed to be representatives of the people.

[Confusious]

70. HA! little boots That's a good name for him

He matches the roman too!

[Art_from_Ark]

82. Apparently, "extreme lefties" today are people who are to the left of

Ronald Reagan :crazy:

[theophilus]

50. This is actually an indication that government of the people, for the people

and by the people has just perished from the earth. No reason for celebration, imo.

[meow mix]

52. i hope his new base does well for him.

good luck with that

[msongs]

53. another liberals and progressives are &^%(%^ post. whatta surprise tonight nt

[Canuckistanian]

54. Do you know anything about politics at all?

Your post gives us no clue.

[hay rick]

57. K&R

If you were going for over-the-top delusional, you nailed it.

[neverforget]

62. Unrec

[AnnieBW]

64. THe D's didn't WANT it

They held their nose and voted for it.

[MH1]

95. Then why did they let it come to this?

If they delivered a better bill to Obama before he made this deal, he would have signed it. But they chose not to do that. Or they were incompetent to do that. Take your pick.

[NoodleyAppendage]

65. S-T-R-E-T-C-H. n/t

J

[Hannah Bell]

66. It tells me there are a lot of whores in Congress. what does it tell you?

[ProudDad]

68. BINGO!! K&U

[Confusious]

72. There are a lot of eunuchs in congress

Most of who couldn't fight their way out of a tissue paper bag.

[defendandprotect]

120. +1000% --

[Gold Metal Flake]

71. Thank God the dismantling of Social security is finally under way.

It will be Obama's greatest legacy!

[Lucian]

73. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever read here on DU.

Congratulations. You've outdone the other stupid stuff I've read.

Unrec.

[quaker bill]

90. Give it another look, or wait a day.

competition is not that hard to find. It is at least accurate in that it calls out the Senate as the place where the votes could not be found. Many postings here are not even this constrained to fact.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

78. Anything IS possible! Caving to the Republicans is now an act of martyrdom!

I can't wait to see the nobility he will present us with when he caves..er...sacrifices himself...on Social Security.

[Starry Messenger]

79. lol.

[Dappleganger]

80. Please stop playing Bill and Ted with a past which never happened.

But you go ahead and continue to believe that garbage.

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[TheKentuckian]

84. You gotta share smokey treats with the entire class.

and should want to. No mind can withstand a buzz of this magnitude.

[Raine]

85. The corporations and billionaires can kiss his ass

it's the least they can do after all he's done for them. :*

[Norrin Radd]

86. "Extreme" left is actually true left. eom

[TheKentuckian]

87. Extreme left is apparently in the neighborhood of Nixon or so.

The extreme left are ex pats, off the grid, or passed on for the most part.

When anyone uses the phrase "extreme left" in relation to present day American politics, you have a righty and not to close to any objective center.

The "extreme left" of today may well have been not too far off center of the Republican party 40 years ago. John Paul Stevens (or former most liberal Supreme Court Justice) didn't curveball and he was a moderate Republican (this was when they had liberals still), stayed pretty much the same and the country shifted so far that he went from middle of the Republicans to the "extreme left" of the Democratic party ideologically.

[creon]

147. "extreme" left

The USA, basically, has no extreme left.

"Extreme" is a mere insult.

[Marr]

89. In two years, you'll be stomping your feet and demanding "the left" come out and support this fraud.

That's the really funny part.

[mmonk]

91. What extreme lefties and if there were any, why would they kiss his ass?

[Karmadillo]

92. Run away! Run away!

nt

[Forkboy]

98. LOL....I thought this was The Onion for a second.

[Zhade]

99. You want Maoists and Stalinists to kiss that fucker's ass? Odd.

As others have pointed out, you've gone completely around the bend. All that was needed was a middle-class-only tax cut bill. Make the Repubs vote against that -- it's a win. But instead, they extend the free money for the undeserving rich, a policy that created all the unemployment in the first place.

And like a fool, you cheer for the continuation of a b*s* policy that helped destroy our economy. Fuck that, and fuck EVER kissing the ass of any liar who betrays his campaign promises to do the opposite. You're insane if you think that should be applauded.

[Iggo]

115. .

:applause:
:fistbump:
:toast:

[rucky]

100. I can't limbo no more! The bar's been set too low.

But it is roughly at Obama's ass level.

[Javaman]

103. This thread crashed and burned.

rightly so.

[butterfly77]

104. The President knows..

the games they play they did the same on the health care bill...He know once we got to January and the Repubs would vote in there own bill he would be blamed again..

[bigtree]

105. that's the way I see it, sans the 'lefties should be grateful' stuff

He took the hit for them and it will benefit them politically. That doesn't make the entire mess correct, though. Congress was negligent in not resolving this until the last minute. The President begged them to move forward, but they refused. They're more satisfied acting as if he wrote the bills they're voting on.

[blindpig]

109. He took a political hit for the ruling class....

and appears ready to take more, a true and faithful servant.

[bigtree]

116. Is there some other U.S. government that I'm not aware of?

Pointing out that they're the 'ruling class' is hardly jolting. Are we getting any closer to holding them accountable? Silly, really, to allow them to hide their intransigence and negligence behind the initiative of this quarter-term president.

[blindpig]

122. 'We' will not 'hold them acountable' by asking their servants

to do it for us.

And that goes for both parties.

[bushisanidiot]

106. Yep. He provided a hell of a lot of political cover for many dems

who will be voting against. I hope not many do vote against though, as those on unemployment are waiting, desperately, for help from us.

[hfojvt]

110. this would be funny

if it wasn't so sad

stopbush - except his tax policies once Obama supports them.

Amazing, isn't it. There was only 1 Republican who voted against it. We can always be bipartisan when we vote for things that every Republican wants.

I lost a little bit more respect for Kerry, Harkin and Franken today.

[Vinnie From Indy]

111. I think the answer is quite simple actually

Many of the Senators simply got outmanuevered and boxed in. They are forced for a variety of reasons to support this monstrosity of a bill.

The fact is that it was the Obama folks that put off this fight after taking office. YOu can bet that had the Obama Administration actually fought publicly for sensible tax reeform and took their case to the American public, we might have won this debate. What happened instead was a backroom deal that was sprung on Democrats in the House and Senate.

I think the Senate tally of Dems voting for this bill is more a reflection of choosing which battle to fight and when to fight it. I secretly hope and do believe that many Dem Senators feel snookered by the Obama White House.

[Bandit]

112. "Main Street not Wall Street"

Yep I believe everything Obama has to say about anything.. He is the equivelent of God...

[Iggo]

113. It tells me that 80 millionaires want their tax-cuts?

[pgodbold]

117. Someone please call idiot removal services. Thank you.

[defendandprotect]

118. You're pointing out that a right wing Democratic Party and a right wing Dem president ....

have now done what Repugs were unable to do for decades --

This is the "measure of this man" -- but it is certainly not of greatness --

Rather as we understood when Repugs did things like this it is the strong attacking the weak.




:puke:

[treestar]

119. Rec'd.

Saw it already with Al Franken's cute little email. He disses the President and then goes on to say he's voting for it.

Hiding behind obama.

And yet most Americans are in favor of it. It's not even needed.

[CLANG]

123. Big K&U !!

[Xicano]

125. Answer me this: How does continuing a policy which caused this mess help?

You act as if the logic of this bill is the solution to get us out of the mess it created. Have you been asleep for the last 20-30yrs? You do realize that the delusional mind believes if you keep trying something that's a proven failure it will somehow one day work.

[True_Blue]

126. Unrec for calling Democrats 'extreme lefties' because we're not kissing ass

Is believing in the Democratic core values an extreme leftie position now? I've always considered myself a moderate, and I have extreme concerns with the urgency that a right-winged agenda is being pushed through that will end up probably being the final nail in the coffin for this Country. Is he afraid the GOP won't pass it when they get in?

I feel like I'm having a nightmare where Enron execs are plotting to steal our retirement right before everything collapses.

[Individualist]

128. No sale! Fuck DLC!

[Raksha]

130. One of my very few unrecommends--maybe my second one.

[WinkyDink]

131. Yes, one can see how giving billions to billionaires would be the position of the "Extreme Lefties"

YOUR CLAIM CONCERNS A NON-REALITY.

But hey, if you know who's going to win the Kentucky Derby next year,.....

[Goblinmonger]

132. Nice satire piece.

I don't think most people got it. It seemed to me like "extreme lefties" was a good shock of recognition early on, but nice jab at the spineless Dems in Congress.

[apocalypsehow]

133. Ahhh, but how irrefutable facts grind hard on unwilling ears! Excellent OP; Kick, Rec. n/t.

[Xicano]

141. Hearsay = "irrefutable facts" ? LOL

The entire OP is presumptuous at best.

[TBF]

138. All this explains is that our Congress is full of elites who care nothing for the working

people of this country. That you buy into it is just complicity on your part.

[creon]

140. A lot of truth

There is a lot of truth in that post. except for 'extreme lefties". There are not very many of those at DU, and not very many of those outside DU.

Obama did what he thought that he had to do.

It is unfortunate that it came to that; but, it did.

It, also, follows logically from the conduct of this Congress over the previous two years.

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[ZombieHorde]

143. "by making the same deal the Senate Ds would have had to have made in the end"

What is your argument for this?

[The Midway Rebel]

145. Awesome.

Points for a succinct and descriptive post of the real politik of how the elites are f*cking the middle class out of their money.

k&u for supporting it.

[walldude]

146. Well ignoring the fact that what you posted was an opinion

and has no basis in reality, ignoring that, why would the extreme left do anything for you or Obama? Whenever the "extreme left" asked for support we were shot down at best and made fun of at worst. HAHA YOU DIDN"T GET YOUR PONY...

Yeah.... we'll get right on supporting you and Obama and the Democrats...

[Uncle Joe]

151. When was the last time that the "extreme left" controlled the Senate?

Thanks for the thread, stopbush.

[coalition_unwilling]

157. unrec. If they had done nothing, the tax cuts would have expired on their own! - n/t

[Better Believe It]

158. That's a very funny tall tale you tell on why Obama has an alliance with Republicans on the tax bill

Taking a bullet for congressonal Democrats.

Yes indeed, that's Obama's style.