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Fri Feb-18-11 12:54 AM
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One question for President Obama--and it is a defining one |
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Are you WITH us or AGAINST us?
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Fri Feb-18-11 01:05 AM
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ClassWarrior
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Fri Feb-18-11 09:03 AM
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7. No, that's Bob Dole whose defining question involves Depends. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 09:03 AM by ClassWarrior
:rofl:
NGU.
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Sat Feb-19-11 12:36 AM
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Fri Feb-18-11 04:01 PM
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Fri Feb-18-11 01:34 AM
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2. Unfortunately, he's President of a country that's made up not |
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just of Democrats and other Progressives, but of centrists, conservatives, and Republicans.
And they're all part of US.
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Fri Feb-18-11 01:56 AM
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3. Elections are without consequence. n/t |
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Fri Feb-18-11 03:45 AM
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5. I guess that only applies when the president is a Democrat |
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because the Repukes sure didn't govern for all of US. Obama better start dancing with the ones who brung him if he expects to dance into a second term with their votes. I say votes not money because he can get money from the corporations & banksters but he still needs votes.
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Fri Feb-18-11 03:52 AM
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6. So he shouldn't take any position at all? |
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Puhleeze.
He got elected as a Democrat. There was a groundswell of support, in large part as a repudiation of 8 years of near-total Republican rule.
So now he's supposed to just govern from the middle, which of course in DC means what used to be the right? Is that what you're saying? That he shouldn't support unions, Gawd forbid, because that might make some of the centrists / conservatives / Republicans get the vapors?
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Fri Feb-18-11 09:06 AM
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8. That is why the question should be "are you with us workers or are you with the owners" - |
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parties really mean very little.
It is whether you support capital or not, and I think we all know the answer to that.
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Fri Feb-18-11 09:06 AM
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9. WRONG. This country is Progressive. Our best values are Progressive values. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 09:07 AM by ClassWarrior
No Center, No Centrists by George Lakoff
"Centrism" is the creation of an inaccurate self-serving metaphor, and it is time to bury it.
There is no left to right linear spectrum in the American political life. There are two systems of values and modes of thought -- call them progressive and conservative (or nurturant and strict, as I have). There are total progressives, who use a progressive mode of thought on all issues. And total conservatives. And there are lots of folks who are what I've called "biconceptuals": progressive on certain issue areas and conservative on others. But they don't form a linear scale. They are all over the place: progressive on domestic policy, conservative on foreign policy; conservative on economic policy, progressive on foreign policy and social issues; conservative on religion, but progressive on social issues and foreign policy; and on and on. No linear scale. No single set of values defining a "center." Indeed many of such folks are not moderate in their views; they can be quite passionate about both their progressive and conservative views.
Barack Obama has it right: Get rid of the very idea of the right and the left and the center. American ideas are fundamentally progressive ideas -- the ideas this country was founded on and that carry forth that spirit. Progressives care about people and the earth, and act with responsibility and strength on that care...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/no-center-no-centrists_b_60419.htmlNGU.
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Fri Feb-18-11 03:59 PM
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10. gawd bless the centrists, conservatives, and republicans that worked so hard.. |
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Fri Feb-18-11 04:06 PM
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13. thats the lamest excuse yet |
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That doesn't fly at all.
He was elected as a Democrat, and he should act like one. What did Bush ever do for the left while he was President, not a damn thing.
President Obama's refusal to act like a partisan Democrat is his biggest problem. Independent voters don't like weak ass presidents, nor do most people in general.
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Fri Feb-18-11 02:06 AM
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4. It's a rhetorical question. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 02:16 AM by autorank
No point in asking it. Wish I had a different answer. http://agonist.org/stiffed
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Sat Feb-19-11 12:39 AM
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15. He's with you in the sense of seeking an accomodation with people who want you dead |
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Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 12:41 AM by kenny blankenship
He's behind you all the way.
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