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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:36 PM
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Tell me what right does the Teabaggers have to say "Elections have Consequences and....
We won in November" as an excuse for these insane budget cuts? And that they are just doing what the American People want.

Yes they won ONE house of Three of the Legislative Branches.

But thats not even the point. The DEMOCRATS won the presidency in 2008 by a healthy margin. And they fought him from day one.
They called for his failure after just days in office. The American people, to use their term, voted for Healthcare Reform, Green energy driven jobs, restrictions on banks and Wall Street, and more.


They didn't listen to the American people then, why the hell do they think they can demand that politicians listen to the American people now?


Fuck them and the Koch they rode in on.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:38 PM
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1. Maybe that should be "Cheating on elections have
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:40 PM
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2. I don't think it's very patriotic to be going against the president in a time of war
We need to start playing the patriotism card and playing it hard. We are a nation at war.

AT WAR!!!!!!

We have troops in the field and when the president is criticized or second guessed, the morale of the troops is undermined. That cannot be allowed.

Just rip some of their old quotes about Bush and the War on Terror from 2001-02 ish, change the name to Obama and throw it right back at these fat teabaggers.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:42 PM
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3. I agree and I will say that the Dems are horrible at controlling the message.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:47 PM
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4. It's Hard to Control the Message When THEY Control the Media

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:49 PM
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5. Yep.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:41 PM
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6. How is this any different from a fillibuster?
Ask the teabaggers why is this any different from a filibuster? The Democrats won in 2006 and 2008 but that did not stop the repugs from using the filibuster at every opportunity
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 04:07 PM
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7. Their hypocrisy is nauseating.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 06:13 PM
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8. Tell the teabagger that the Wisconsin Senators are following Abe Lincoln's example
This is really funny http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/20/lincoln-fled-state-wisconsin/
FLASHBACK: Abraham Lincoln Wrote Playbook For Wisconsin Dems Who Fled State

Wisconsin Democratic state senators who fled the state to block Gov. Scott Walker’s (R) union busting said today they have “no plans to return to the state until Walker could reach a reasonable negotiation with state employees.” Republican politicians and conservative commentators have lambasted the state senators all week for their supposed “dereliction of duty.” But those in the Party of Lincoln should look to the 16th president before they criticize the Wisconsin Democrats.

Indeed, 170 years before the Wisconsin Democrats fled Madison to deny a quorum, then-state Rep. Abraham Lincoln was fleeing the capitol in Springfield, IL — via a window, no less — to do the same in an attempt to save the State Bank of Illinois:

agreed to allow to suspend its obligation to exchange its paper money for specie, but only for the remainder of the legislative session.

That’s when Lincoln determined to keep the legislature in session in order to buy precious time for the bank to find a way to survive, and that’s how he jumped into the national limelight on December 5, 1840. On that date, the Democrats proposed an early adjournment, knowing this would bring a speedy end to the State Bank. The Whigs tried to counter by leaving the capitol building before the vote, but the doors were locked. That’s when Lincoln made his move. He headed for the second story, opened a window and jumped to the ground!

Lincoln’s efforts failed, sadly, and “the bank was killed.” But as the Wall Street Journal pointed out yesterday, “The tactic of quorum avoidance by simply leaving dates back at least to the days when the U.S. Constitution was being debated”:

Legislators tried to stymie passage in Pennsylvania and Massachusetts that way, and some in Pennsylvania had to be dragged out of a tavern to vote. The Constitution passed.

There have been at least four occasions of blocking a quorum in Wisconsin’s legislature alone. … And one representative in 1951, Rep. Ruth Doyle, had to be retrieved from the women’s bathroom for a vote on a resolution for the legislature to hear Gen. Douglas MacArthur speak.

Indeed, the tactic has been used in the U.S. Senate on occasion as well. More recently, the tactic garnered national headlines in 2003 when Texas Democrats fled to New Mexico to block a GOP redistricting effort. Eliot Shapleigh, one of the “Texas Eleven” is now advising the Wisconsin Democrats. “Stay close. When one gets picked off, the game’s over,” Shapleigh told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel yesterday.
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