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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 10:50 PM
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Liberty 101: The Transparent Person/Entity is the Servant or Slave // "Corporate Rights COLAs"
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 10:59 PM by Land Shark
Last week, I pointed out that instead of picking Julian Assange (the runaway winner in its Readers Poll for Person of the Year) TIME magazine chose Facebook founder Marc Zuckerberg. Facebook, in no small way, helps the powers that be, and marketing corporations, track individual citizens interests, tastes, and friendship circles. I found TIME's choice, while predictably anti-democratic, to be especially revealing because they ignored the critically relevant issue of whistle-blowing on government and corporations (Assange) in favor of celebrating increased "transparency" so to speak on you and me.http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x17812

Months ago, I posted an essay from the WSJ showing Google's CEO bragging that their Android smart phone operating system (which they give away for free because the intelligence they gather is so lucrative) allows Google, and anybody else with access to that system, to know not only who a person is, their address, friends, and interests, but also to know "to within one foot" where you are located at all times. (Unless you leave your "smart phone" behind.) Remarkably, responding to a WSJ question on whether google would remain committed to its search engine business, the CEO of Google responded "I don't think people want Google to answer their questions, I think they want Google to tell them they should be doing next." http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8972515&mesg_id=8972515 I can't find anyone who wants Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, to tell them what to do, and certainly nobody in that thread did, but that was a direct quote from Google's CEO nonetheless. He apparently believes that people want him to tell us what to do. Incredible.

Today, the Wall Street Journal adds to that "transparency" with an investigatory article on Smart Phones. It shows that the apps on Smart phones will send unique identifier information, demographic information, and location data to as many as nine different places just by using a single smart phone app such as the music app Pandora. (Which is kind of cool if you know what it is, but there's a serious downside to why they provide "free music" similar to a tune the user requests)

Read the many details for yourself:

YOUR APPS ARE WATCHING YOU: A WSJ Investigation finds that iPhone and Android apps are breaching the privacy of smart phone users.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704694004576020083703574602.html

I want to repeat, for emphasis, that the big picture here is government and corporate secrecy and individual lack of privacy or the high availability of "transparency" when it comes to individuals.

The lesson of Liberty 101 is this: The Transparent Person/Entity is the Servant or Slave entity. Government and entities created by it (including corporations) are supposed to be the servants or slaves, if you will, of the public interest. Instead, it is very nearly completely the opposite of that, with the public expected to have "nothing to hide" and the government and corporations expected to have broad claims to secrecy and privacy.

About the only times individual privacy is upheld it is used as a precedent to expand government/corporate secrecy.

Unfortunately, one good example of this is decisions upholding the privacy of, say, DU posters or internet posters generally. On account of the broad and radical principle of Citizens United not to permit of any distinctions between corporations and individuals, any perceived "gain" in individual privacy is subject to what amounts to an automatic COLA increase in the rights of corporations, on the grounds of non-discrimination principles (regarding corporations) that are the heart and soul of the Citizens United decision.

Do I think DU posters should have some privacy rights if they wish? In most cases, yeah. I just want ya'll to know that the few victories we see or get for individual privacy are directly harnessed to serve corporate secrecy interests. I'd like to draw a line between individuals and corporations, and it's easy to draw a principled line between them. But, under present law and legal trends, the corporate powers that be have harnessed the drive and desire for individual privacy and are using it as the engine to consolidate their own secrecy and power.

You may have to stop and think, because I know I do, and consider the implications for politics and strategy when fighting for one's own individual rights presupposes a "COLA" in rights for corporations, too.

In the mean time, those corporations -- if you carry a smart phone -- know who you are, where you live, who you talk to and who your friends are, your demographics and all your interests, and they know where you are at all times to within approximately 12 inches. And that's a close paraphrase of the quote from the Google CEO in the link above, the same CEO that is convinced that people want him to tell us what to do next. I remain convinced people would much rather tell Google where to go.

It's not enough that your life and political opinions be an "open book" -- you have no way to stop them from making up smart phone data that implicates you, or in-debts you, even for things you never did. You don't have to worry about being set up like that - unless you're effective and relevant in politics.

1. Greg Palast often calls Choicepoint "America's KGB" because they have a dossier on every American but clearly this business is expanding explosively and the KGB simply never had this much detailed information on so many people, 24/7, so using the term KGB is now understating the actual facts.

2. Fighting for individual rights will in most cases be the same as fighting for parallel increases in corporate rights, (Citizens United principles) thus insuring that we are on a political treadmill and can't really get ahead.



"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't quite understand the problem."

Yes, I think there are some answers and adjustments that can be made, but first the reality has to sink in so we understand the problem well, before we try to "solve" the problem. This situation will not be solved at the level of an email campaign urging citizens to do this, or do that...

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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:06 PM
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1. Good night and good luck (and SEE YOU IN THE MORNING!!) :) nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:30 PM
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2. Big Brother is watching
They have nothing better to do than to try and learn everything they can about everyone. And the tech involved makes it all easier. What they can do with the info they acquire is limited only by imagination and the tech, so best be ready for anything.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:11 AM
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3. k&r
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:17 AM
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4. I want an APP that blocks my info.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 12:18 AM by HCE SuiGeneris
Is there a demand...?

Shit, there goes my next Million $ idea out into the public domain. :(

David, you rock. Thanks for all that you do.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:16 AM
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8. Then you can PAY to get a certain amount of privacy back. :( nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:53 AM
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5. This is another nail in the coffin of being able to be a person who
holds the inalienable rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The only right we currently have is that of the consumer.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:14 AM
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7. They're working on eliminating boycotts (secrecy of campaign contributions, e.g.) nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:49 PM
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18. I sort of thought that the current campaign funding issue
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 08:50 PM by truedelphi
And all the laws around it meant that the money and donors of the money had to be transparent. Not that it is easy to figure it all out - for instance if
Candidate Y said that "Happy Children's Fund" had given him 4K, you might not be able to figure out that this group was an association created by Monsanto.

But I'd love any details. (Not being snarky, really wanna know.)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:37 AM
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6. I never thought of everything moving in parallel between us
and the corporate state since that ruling. There's got to be some sort of law that can be used as a mechanism that can pry us apart from this that Citizens United has produced.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:33 AM
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9. it's the new twisted notion of "equality" between persons and NON-humans
of course, equality does not, and never has, required equal treatment of UNequals. Of course, all humans are created equal, so discrimination within the human family is wrong, but to equate any or all humans/voters with non-human, non-voters is absurd. But that is the essence of the "no corporate discrimination" principle of Citizens United.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:46 AM
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10. Roe Vs Wade is important because it affirms a right
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 11:47 AM by alfredo
to privacy in our constitution.

Having the corporate world spy on us is how the government gets around that right to privacy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:45 PM
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11. We are moving in vary dangerous directions
you want to add more to this?

Democracy Inc... This book goes into inverted totalitarianism, and the marriage of state and corporations. It is important to be aware of what is going on and how we are no longer that free, if you want to be blunt.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:17 PM
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12. Hmm. "no longer *that* free" - wonder if "free" can be qualified that way
Perhaps "I'm not that free any more" is equal to "I'm not free" in these kinds of contexts. Not that one can't be free in some respects and not others, but in the respects at hand I do not see how one can be "free" and yet observed and monitored in such a total(itarian) way. What do you think? Or anyone else?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 02:06 PM
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14. Unlike other forms of total state
and closed societies, this one does not rely that heavily on police powers.

Why you will not see that many thugs in the streets.

It is more like what I grew up with. You knew it was there, but for the most part, as long as you did not become a real threat, you were free to do whatever you wanted. Now you did something dangerous to the order, people did go poof. We are close to that... and yes, elections are just window dressing in this kind of a system.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 05:18 PM
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16. do you think "total state" "police powers" are *necessary* to total control (anymore)?
I'm not so sure they are. In any event, open police state control would never be necessary except in a post-uprising situation. Prior to that, if the propaganda for example is effective enough, it would be unnecessarily expensive and poor politics to exercise open police control. Without deciding precisely where our country is right now, we can say that the police state laws are all in place, it is mostly a matter of the extent of their exercise, and the recognition of their exercise. No more.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 06:54 PM
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17. They didn't have to exercise those
30 years ago in Mexico... doubtful they will need to these days.

Why it is called inverted totalitarism.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:55 PM
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13. What does COLA mean? (excuse the ignorance).
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:18 PM
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15. (C)ost (o)f (L)iving (A)llowance (an automatic inflation increase, usually)
By analogy to a COLA increase, for example, in social security benefits, I'm saying corporations get an automatic increase in first amendment "rights" per citizens united "principles."
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