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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:45 PM
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Hit this poll please; Indiana Poll: Do you support the Right to Work Law?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:54 PM
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1. Done...knr
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:57 PM
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2. I do not
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:58 PM
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3. WTF?-- currently 76% yes and 24% no....
Presumably because workers are voting against their own best interests. This is crazy.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:59 PM
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4. I'm not so sure most understand what it means.
The label "Right to Work" was intentionally misleading. There is no right to work.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:00 PM
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5. done
looks bad 74% do
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:00 PM
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6. done, k&r
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:01 PM
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7. Most people have no idea what "Right To Work" really means.
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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:03 PM
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8. Do you think the high percentage of Yeses
is because people don't understand "Right to Work" is another Republican whitewash? We used to call it "Right to No Work."
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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:04 PM
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10. Feel like an idiot
saying the same thing as several previous posts.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:03 PM
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9. What exactly is the point of flooding these polls?
To make an unscientific poll more unscientific? :shrug:
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:06 PM
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11. Done. n/t
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diddlysquat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:28 PM
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12. Done!
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:30 PM
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13. Many people do not know the definition of RTW
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:01 PM
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14. so Explain it...what does it mean?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:36 PM
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15. It *seems* to always have meant
"right to be fired at any time for any reason"
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:33 PM
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22. I believe the term for that is "at-will employment"
I'm not a labor law expert, but I believe "right-to-work" means has something to do with union contracts. It has traditionally been an impediment to unionization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law

Either way, both are seen as sacrosanct by Teabaggers/Koch Brothers/U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and are both abhorrent laws that need to be changed.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 08:36 PM
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24. What a "Right to Work" law does
Unions have always had a problem with free riders: people who work at unionized companies, therefore gaining the benefits of unionization, without joining the union. Too many free riders can kill the union--they're providing union protection to the free riders for no reimbursement.

The National Labor Relations Act allows there to be three kinds of unionized companies: closed shops, union shops and agency shops.

A closed shop cannot hire anyone who doesn't belong to the union--IOW, if you want to work in a closed shop that's organized by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, stop by the IBEW hall and join up before you fill out your application. Maintaining a union card is a condition of employment. These were outlawed by the Taft-Hartley Act.

Union shops will hire you without your being in the union, but you've got to join within a certain number of days after hire; this shop also requires that you be fired if you just come to work one day and say "fuck you, union, I'm not paying dues anymore." (It does NOT allow them to fire you if you get kicked out of the union for something other than nonpayment of dues...then again, if you fucked up bad enough to get thrown out of the union you probably also committed a termination offense at the same time.)

Agency shops don't require you to be in the union, but every employee must pay an agency fee to cover costs of collective bargaining.

Good so far? Right to Work laws exploit Section 14(b) of the Taft-Hartley Act to allow a state to ban the Union Shop and Agency Shop within its borders. So...if someone organizes your chicken processing plant, anyone who wants to come in and choke chickens for $10 per hour (because the International Brotherhood of Chicken Chokers Local 1369 has negotiated a higher-than-minimum wage) can do so without giving the IBCC any money. The intent, of course, is to banish unionization from the state because union activities cost money and if there's no upside to paying for them no one will.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 09:34 PM
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16. You mean the "Right to Work for LESS" law?
and, yes, most people do NOT know what that law does.

The Republicans (Ownership Class) have been far ahead in the Deceptive Marketing Game for a long time.
They have been so successful that even our "Democratic Party" Leadership use their framing and talking points.

I cringe every time I hear Republican Marketing Lies come out of the mouths of "Democrats".
Way to lose before the game even starts.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."

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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 09:44 PM
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17. we need better education on these and other issues.
Who would really be against the right to work? That's not what's ment here. It's deceptive marketing........period!

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:09 PM
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19. Thats where Party Leadership should step in.
It is their JPOB to bring the ISSUES to the People, and define the debate in terms that can be easily understood.
This IS a Failure of Leadership.
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 06:15 PM
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23. What can we do? They seem to have abandoned us.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 09:52 PM
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18. yes 66.4% no 33.3%
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 09:54 PM by Bozita
Do you support the Right to Work Law?
Yes
357 66.4%
No
179 33.3%
Undecided
2 0.4%



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seeviewonder Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:24 PM
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20. This area is about an hour drive south of me
(I live in East Cental Illinois). Very Repub area of Indiana and always has been from my memory.
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:26 PM
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21. Done
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 10:30 PM by GrantDem
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 08:39 PM
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25. done nt
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