Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

New EMALS Launcher Works And Should Be On $40 Billion Dollar USS Gerald R Ford

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 08:55 AM
Original message
New EMALS Launcher Works And Should Be On $40 Billion Dollar USS Gerald R Ford
unhappycamper note: Since the ‘Pentagon’ (DoD? Gannett?) has ‘requested’ that I only post one paragraph from articles on Army Times, and Airforce Times, To keep in that same (new) tradition, I will also do the same for for articles on Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, stripes.com and military.com.
To read the article in the military's own words, you will need to click the link.

Read all about Fair Use here. It sure is beginning to smell like fascism.

unhappycamper summary of this article: More of your tax dollars at work.




First Aircraft With EMALS Launched
December 21, 2010
Navy News

PATUXENT RIVER, Md. -- The Navy made history Dec. 18 when it launched the first aircraft from the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR), Lakehurst, N.J., test site using the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, or EMALS, technology.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:02 AM
Response to Original message
1. It really galls me that the pigs named ships for raygun, poppy and
now ford?!

40 f ing billion $?

How are they going to insulate the computers and such from the emp?
On Air Craft Carriers the majority of Operations is under the flight decks launchers..its like living under a bowling alley btw.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. I made two deployments living in a berthing compartment directly
under the three wire.

It got to the point that I could go to sleep within four landings. Now, I can sleep through anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Boy was I lucky. I had the senior Skipper in the Air Wing. Our coup was on the 2nd deck, below and
forward of the hangar deck. Quiet except for the fact that on the other side of the bulkhead next to my rack was an ordinance elevator. When they were using it the clank pop clank whirrrr BANG was enough to wake the dead. Took me about two weeks to get used to it the first time and when we started workups again I picked the same rack LOL.

Man did I have it made when I look back on things. On my first deployment, my two best friends went TAD, one to 1st Lt. and one to ship's laundry. I got clean sheets whenever I wanted them, had four curtains so I could intertwine them, and personalized laundry service. I'd get up in the morning to find my laundry washed, folded, some of it ironed, and placed next to my rack in the middle of the night. Second deployment I had to pay but by then I knew WHO to pay. I was the envy of many. LOL

About sleeping on the 03 level, I once was walking around the flight deck late at night cuz I couldn't sleep. I caught two young pilots painting padeyes black to keep flight deck personnel from dropping chains there because they slept in a stateroom right below that spot. I told Flight Deck Control and they both got REAMED. One wanted to kick my ass in a bar in Palma, Spain. I kept telling him to bring it, but his buddy made a big play of holding him back and telling me I'd spend the rest of my life in the brig if I hit him LOL.

Fun times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Deployments with the airwing on the Kennedy, America, Independence, and
Eisenhower, plus two years in the airwing on the Midway in Yokosuka, Japan.

My LES (leave and earning statement) was out on the counter one day when some young pilots were passing through maintenance control. One of them looked at it, pointed at the 'sea time' block, and asked if I ever went home.

I never had a good berthing compartment, even after making chief. The only perk was when I made E9 I always got a bottom rack if I wanted it.

Liked your padeye story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. When were you on the America?
Still strange to think she sleeps with the fishes...

I was deployed with CV-66 twice, once in 82-83, again in 84. VS-32 Maulers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. I hate to say this, but I'm not really sure. At this age, some dates tend to
run together, but I think it was in '86 with VA 46.

Can't even look in a cruise book. We gave all those to the nursing home where mother-in-law lives, because so many of the old gents like to look at military type photos.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. I had some friends in VA-46. Runkel, Sweeney, and a little guy named Gordy with a funny voice.
Check these out... One of VA-46's "Ankle-Burners" blew me into the safety net just forward of the starboard elevator. I was a Plane Captain turning up an S-3 and an A-7 in the "six pack" behind me turned up to taxi to the cat. I got taken off of my feet, bounced twice on my way under the S-3's port engine, hit the scupper with my shoulder, and cartwheeled into the net. I was afraid to move. I had to talk to the Chaplain for like three days before I was cleared to work the flight deck again. Enjoy.





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
2. Here is a list of ALL aircraft carriers the US Navy has ever had...
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 09:08 AM by old mark
I believe those currently inservice and those in the planning stage for the future cost more than all the rest since the 1920's combined. We now have more carriers than every other navy in the world. (NOTE - we have over twice as many as the rest of the world combined now sailing.)
We are building many more.

Britain has one carrier, building a pair, and China is building their first one now. India has a few, France IIRC has one or two.

We have around 30 currently sailing.
List of all US Navy carffiers in history and in the near future:
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_the_United_States_Navy


List of world aircraft carriers as of 2010 and building:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/carriers.htm


mark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. The US has 11 carriers in service.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. "We have around 30 currently sailing." "We" do? As in the USA? No. Try 11, NOT 30
That number is on the Wikipedia page you linked;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_the_United_States_Navy#Active

The number is no where close to 30 in the US Navy unless you count every Amphibious Assault Ship and any other ship capable of landing helicopters and other VTOL aircraft.

The total number in service worldwide in all navies is 21;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_in_service

It helps if you read the pages you link.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Including decommissiones or in reserve carriers, we have around 24 currently floating...
One was scuttled in 2005, and several are planned and on order - the Ford is the first of a new class of carriers that will be in service in the early 21st century.
We have 11 active carriers now, and are building and planning as many.

mark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Wrong again, Mark.
What is surprising is the numbers are on the page you linked!

As far as the ones "currently floating", 5 of them are museums and are completely unlikely to ever be refitted for active duty. They are The Intrepid, Hornet, Yorktown, Lexington and Midway.

The others that are still afloat are either on "Donation Hold" or awaiting scrapping. They are Forrestal, Saratoga, Ranger, Independence, and the John F. Kennedy.

The only one listed on the Wiki entry held as "reserve" is the Kitty Hawk and it has been decommissioned and if not called back to service will be scrapped sometime after 2015.

That makes 22 total afloat, NOT 24, 5 of which are not going anywhere, 2 of which are likely to be museums and the rest will be either scrapped or scuttled.

As far as your statement "We have 11 active carriers now, are building and planning as many" goes, show me a link that says we have 11 total carriers in either the planning stages or under construction. Newport News has ONE keel laid (CVN 78, The Gerald R. Ford) which began construction in November of 2009. Only two more are currently planned, CVN 79 & 80. Further carriers will be built as the older hulls are retired. If you think we are heading toward a Navy with 22 active carriers, you would be mistaken.

You are much more easily taken seriously if you don't pull numbers out of your backside.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. Here's another list, and it shows the 11 that are active and the others
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:53 AM
Response to Original message
8. $40 billion for one ship!
What a damned outrage.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 05:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
15. Well at least it can send email.
;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #15
16. Hah!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Apr 27th 2024, 12:15 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC