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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:54 AM
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How fast did net neutrality came up?
Last I heard it was going to be "STUCK" in committee now it is being voted on? Today...


I can't believe it happened so soon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/obama-fcc-caves-on-net-ne_b_799435.html


Obama FCC Caves on Net Neutrality -- Tuesday Betrayal Assured
Late Monday, a majority of the FCC's commissioners indicated that they're going to vote with Chairman Julius Genachowski for a toothless Net Neutrality rule.

According to all reports, the rule, which will be voted on during tomorrow's FCC meeting, falls drastically short of earlier pledges by President Obama and the FCC Chairman to protect the free and open Internet.

The rule is so riddled with loopholes that it's become clear that this FCC chairman crafted it with the sole purpose of winning the endorsement of AT&T and cable lobbyists, and not defending the interests of the tens of millions of Internet users.

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This is really sick the way this happens. You think something stuck in committee than it moves forward so fast you have no way to mount a protest.

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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:56 AM
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1. Wonder if the rule will even be allowed to exist after a lawsuit by EFF and ACLU
with a permanent injunction enjoining FCC from invoking the business-friendly version of net neutrality?

ATT & Verizon & Google should be included in the lawsuit since they came up with this horrendous idea.

Hawkeye-X
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:00 AM
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5. Why in the world would you favor no regulation of the Internet?
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 11:00 AM by BzaDem
That's what I don't get. You want a permanent injunction barring these regulations, which would result in no regulations? That is certainly the Wall Street Journal's position, but why would any liberal favor such an idea?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:15 AM
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7. Because if anything at all, the Internet should be defined as a public utility and
regulated by the PUC folks.

Regulation with corporations being handed the reins - you know how it will end.

DARPA (the forefather of the Internet) was created within the Department of Defense, and thusly regulated.

Internet was set up, and has been pretty much unregulated. A few corporations established their own rules within the lines, but ultimately did not control the Internet.

That's my thinking right now

Hawkeye-X
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:58 AM
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2. Yep.
Though there have been some rumblings this week that the vote would be soon. I don't know if you've already seen this piece, titled Franken: Under FCC’s ‘neutrality’ rules, ‘the Internet as we know it would cease to exist’ but it's worth a quick look if you haven't.

PB
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:59 AM
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3. Thank you.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 10:59 AM
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4. It wasn't there. I went to take a dump. I came back and it was there.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 10:59 AM by HopeHoops
:hurts:

I figure the shit had to have gone SOMEWHERE when I flushed.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:12 AM
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6. over a year since the FCC first proposed rules
The current FCC launched a formal rulemaking to codify as rules its then existing net neutrality "policy" in November 2009. After the decision in Comcast v. FCC struck down that policy as unenforceable, the FCC scrambled to come up with a new approach, which led the FCC to seek additional comment on what it called the "third way" proposal in spring of 2010. That approach was viewed by many as being as susceptible to judicial attack as the old approach and also triggered signficant opposition within Congress. In Septemer, Rep. Waxman spearheaded an effort to come up with a legislative solution based on the old approach, but couldn't get traction to move it forward. So it fell back in the lap of the FCC, which has essentially taken the Waxman approach and is using it as the basis for new rules.

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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 11:16 AM
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8. :cough: wikileaks :cough:
Excuse me...
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