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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:25 PM Original message |
The Democratic leaders are not even pretending to defend Social Security. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. The White House, Senate, House, etc. are a bit busy right now ..... |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I for one am tired of the dems kicking my butt. |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I love your sense of humor |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. err... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. I'm proud to say that I might hold the record on DU for the most |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. Good! |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
40. LOL - care to put a year on there? nt |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. You mean that new dem...uh, Republican House? (n/t) |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Oh, yeah, right.... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. If a Democrat Stands Up For Something and the MSM Fails to Report It, Does That Make a Sound? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Is there anyone rich and caring enough to create an Antifox Network? nt |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Which is exactly why we need to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Unfortunately, DUers |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Maybe some nice progressive country will invade us and liberate us. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
38. forget the MSM, if a democrat stands up for something and other dems ignore him/her . . . |
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yourout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. My oldest son will graduate with an Elementary Education Major in the spring. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That is because no political party is standing up for unions now. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. What Messaging? We Have a Media That Believes that Democrats Should be Not Seen and Not Heard |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Democrats also believe that they should be seen and not heard....!!! |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
79. Democrats Have Been Trying to Survive the Repiglickin Onslaught |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
99. Did you happen to notice that Obama was elected in a landslide? |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #99 |
116. I Don't Belong to an Organized Party, I am a Democrat |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
53. Republican agenda fits nicely into a Fascist Govt. like the US |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
100. The coup began immediately after the Revolution .... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. His classmates' parents likely are not union members, so they do not see the benefits as "theirs." |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Excellent post, as usual, madfloridian. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Thanks for the link . |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Thanks for the kind words. n/t |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
78. The following is from your blog |
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OrwellwasRight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. Not true. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. That's two. |
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OrwellwasRight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Doggett and Sanchez and Hirono and G. Miller and |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. an excellent post, thank you |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'm looking forward to hearing that speech; I've anticipated his mentioning |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. I'll bet he refers to Social Security by the republican mem; "entitlement"! |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. If he did, he would be crossing a major line. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Agreed |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. Reagan's election was the opening act in a war on the middle class. |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. I agree with you. However, don't forget that after WWII, Republicans |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
68. And you do not think people will reach a point where they will bring |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
15. The first of the nailgun nails in the coffin of SS is the |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I'm afraid I agree. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. That is 100% correct. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. K&R X1000! What puzzles me is how many of our fellow DUers |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. They don't understand (or don't wan't to acknowledge) that the President |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
111. This is infuriating. But, then, many DU'ers are younger and know |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
16. Thanks for posting Mad,K & R for later response. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
17. Thanks. |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. Hard to decide whether they're worthless or destructive |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I know. I know. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. How much more will it take to finally understand this is NOT a party which |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. Until there is blood, no one will do anything except post on boards |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. there will be blood. |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I live in California and groups are already forming, but not anything |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
24. The New Deal was an exceptional episode in history. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
97. I have to ask ... "How"?" -- but otherwise agree overall -- !! |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #97 |
115. Watch the Greeks.... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
25. Recommended. |
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bonnieS (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
26. Diane Ravitch |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
73. When they happen, the boomers will be participating, and it will not |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
101. When your demonstrations are covered and you begin to get noticed .... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
107. Excellent post. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. "Sanctimonious" voters may end putting a whole lotta politicians |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
29. Obama is pleasing the people that matter--the corporatocracy. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
84. Team Obama is counting on Big Money the next election. NO WAY will or can Obama ask for |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
34. At this moment the best defense is the senate refusing to pass any |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. How do you know it was a mistake? n/t |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Well, I suppose it depends on how you look at it. The repug leaders |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
102. You really think that Obama set up the committee, named the Repugs to it ... and they |
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alturn (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
35. The only cure is is people power and to start the new |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Yes, and the road to "people power" is education. They have got |
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alturn (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
74. Absolutely education, education, education |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
36. Kick for Truth. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
41. But but but... "compromise" |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
42. ALL according to the Plan, my dearie.... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
46. This is good thread . nt |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
47. I am very frightened about how I will be able to survive.....literally. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. EXCELLENT article/interview about this, and the media's complicity. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Thanks for that link. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. It's worse than that; they aren't just "not standing up against Republicans", they are promoting |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
51. I started working at age 14, part time after school, and have paid into SS |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Ditto. No COLA incrreases on my SS for three years...all the costs around me are rising. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
103. Seniors should be organizing to have the COLA's restored ... and actually based on inflation rates.! |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R Is there a way to calculate |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Probably about half of seniors. That is no joke. I believe more than half |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. When will it be time for, say, 4 or 5 million of us making our way to D.C. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
104. They are not "out of touch" ... this isn't happening by accident ... it is purposeful.... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. We've been had. |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. The talk about raising the retirement age in France...the workers there don't dick around. |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Yeah, but in this Country we've armed our police force to take down any revolt by "the people" |
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sirthomas66 (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. As a result of the social security raid, the revolt will come and there |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. And, as with the Civil Rights Movement, people WILL die. It is the necessary stuff of revolts. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
106. Whatever the revolts, they must be kept non-violent ... only right wing profits from violence.... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. I didn't say the PROTESTORS would be the violent ones. History says it will be the police. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
105. Agree .... |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
63. Obama is not perfect, but.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. Deleted message |
madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Wow |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. LOL |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Laugh at me and give the insult a big thumbs up. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. If YOU wanted to maintain something, anything, would you appoint as guardian one who has vowed to |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Social Security has a guardian ? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #90 |
108. Perhaps you thought Alan Simpson was appointed to SAVE Social Security....? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #90 |
113. The analogy might be flawed, but the point remains: Obama KNEW THE VIEWS of whom he was appointing. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Turkey? Whine? Not germane? You are kidding yourself. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. What a crappy mouth you have. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
82. Americans, those who need and those who loathe S.S., identify it with Democrats. ANY CUTS WILL DOOM |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
89. r |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
92. RACE to the top is rebranded RESEGREGATION. That is all. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
93. What is the ratio |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Last I heard..women in military couldn't get emergency contraception pills |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. They still can't even pay themselves for an abortion ... !! |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
95. K&R |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
96. Hope he doesn't adopt the Bowles Simpson recommendation... |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
98. Democratic leadership is an oxymoron nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
110. Not true ... for decades, Dems have been leading us to the right .... |
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Kat45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
114. D or R, none of them will ever have to depend on social security. |
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