Fox News(Megyn Kelly for one) keep saying in Wisconsin

[OHdem10]

the Public Union Workers earn more than
counterparts in private sector.

TELL ME, how do they make the Comparison.

Teachers are College Graduates. Compare
them to college graduates and the teachers
make less.

The other day someone from Wisconsisn posted
the average teacher earns 46,000 annually
and beginning teachers start at about 26,000
annually.

College Graduates in Business earn more.

To which group in Private Sector do you
compare firefighters and police???

[Vincardog]

1. FAUX SneZ LIES that is all they have

[ejpoeta]

2. they are claiming the average earnings are $78k when including benefits.

which i call bs on. first of all, an 'average' probably lets them include administrators and superintendents to fluff up the numbers as at least in our area there have been reports of superintendents making almost 200k.

[JackintheGreen]

5. I'm curious what the mean is... n/t

[JackintheGreen]

8. And I found it

tracks pretty close with a ~3% difference:

http://www.epi.org/page/-/old/policy/EPI_PolicyMemorandum_173.pdf

And another table tracking differences in total compensation in WI:


Funny. Seems like it contradicts the MSM meme.

[DenverDad]

10. Also, benefits are NOT an insignificant amount.

You notice how they only report income as "salary + benefits" when they want to portray a group as "overpaid" (remember when the right was reporting the income of U.S. auto workers before their bailout?).

When we talk about incomes of claims-adjusters, cable-installers, nurses and accountants, nobody adds benefits(Health care, pension contributions, etc)in because they're not part of the "after-tax" paycheck.

My wife is a legal secretary with the District Attorney's office. Her "salary + benefits" is about $90,000/yr. Her take-home pay, however, is around $2500/month.

[KittyWampus]

11. the real answer to that is> private sector drones should get same benefits rather than stripping

their comrades working just as hard in the public sector.

After all, the corporate executives and bankers are making 50 times as much.

[krispos42]

3. Well, now if you count all the school supplies the teachers steal, they're rich.

You have any idea what a black-market NIB of Crayolas goes for????

[Submariner]

4. All you need to know about that airhead is in this video

where Jon Stewart cleans her f'ing clock. She is the most unfair and unbalanaced corporate tool of the Fox PAC bunch imho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7G_IIu-_v4

[lob1]

6. Megan Kelly earns many time more that those

"over paid" teachers. We could balance budgets faster if we steal her money instead teachers.

[Critters2]

7. Megyn Kelly

:banghead:

[hfojvt]

9. it's a pretty simple comparison actually

you compare a public sector worker who works an hour to a private sector worker who works an hour and see who makes more for that hour.

It's the same way that we on the left compare workers to CEOs. Nobody says that they are doing the same job, have the same responsibilities or the same skills, education and experience. You just compare one salary to another.

The "average teachers deserve to make more than the average taxpayer because teachers have college degrees and the average taxpayer does not" argument. That argument does not sell very well to the average taxpayer. In fact, it fits into the Republican talking point that "liberal elites think they are better than you". Makes the non-elites all too happy to take those suckers down a peg.

[PVnRT]

12. First off, see post 8

Second of all, the two scenarios are not the same. No one claims that CEOs and workers have the same jobs when they compare salaries, only that they are skewed far out of proportion, especially when compared with 30-40 years ago.