If I see a Republican inside a burning car, I won't do a damned thing to help him

[Rocknrule]

Because after all, helping people other than yourself is SOCIALISM, and we can't have that, can we?

Just kidding, I'm really not THAT mean and selfish, but I just had to express how disgusted I am with these people. Billions on blowing up foreigners and welfare for the wealthy in the form of tax cuts? No problem! Billions actually HELPING people? Hell no, only commies do that!

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[cynatnite]

16. Would you ask if he or she was a repub first? n/t

[SDuderstadt]

20. This post makes me....

ashamed to be a DUer.

Please think about what you are saying and please, please avoid helping DU look like FreeRepublic.

[NuclearDem]

21. Seriously, I think a lot of us have lost our collective minds tonight...

[Forkboy]

27. Empty bravado.

And if it isn't empty and you could watch, and cheer, a human dying horribly then the fucker isn't them.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

2. LMAO! @ the title

[elocs]

3. Did you actually give this thread any real thought before you posted it?

:shrug:

[Cal33]

51. He did write that he was only kidding, and that he couldn't be THAT mean. Did you read the whole

message?

[BillyJack]

4. Never Give Up! n/t

[texshelters]

5. Before rescuing him/her, I would ask

"Do you renounce Satan?"

If it was Dick Cheney, I would have a hard time with the rescue, certainly. But really, wouldn't we rescue them then give them the Clockwork orange treatment or make them a manchurian candidate and send them to work with the Koch Brothers?

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[The Blue Flower]

6. Well, obviously God caused the fire

Being on fire is not different from being poor, it's all God's will, right?

[Earth_First]

7. Goodness!

I would certainly hope that you would assist regardless of sex, race, ethnicity, political affiliation or otherwise...

What an awful thing to say!

[eridani]

24. Someone forgot the smiley--

:sarcasm:

[66 dmhlt]

8. I don't find that a bit amusing.

Ever since I realized there was someone called a colored girl, or an evil woman, a bitch, or a nag, I've been trying not to be that, and leave bitterness in someone else's cup.

From the Broadway show "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow is Enuf" by Ntozake Shange, which won the Obie Award, Outer Critics Circle Award, and the AUDELCO Award.

It's expresses a hateful sentiment that I'd expect to see at Free Republic and alike - but not here.

[upi402]

9. "Pull yourself out by your bootstraps"?

ooohhhh:spray:

[KharmaTrain]

10. I Would Assist...

..by stopping and then attempting to put out the flames by pissing on it.

[The Nexus]

53. Remember this Bugs Bunny cartoon?

"P-E-T-R-O-L, that spells water."

[NuclearDem]

11. Not one of DUers finer moments

Come on, I'm not a fan of conservatism at all, but I'm not going to sit by while a fellow human being burns to death.

I think I'm gonna be sick... :puke:

[Very_Boring_Name]

15. Looks like someone didn't bother to read past the first sentence

I know that extra 4 seconds is hard work and all, but there's no point in replying to the post if you haven't read the whole thing, is there?

[NuclearDem]

17. I don't care if the OP was 'just kidding'

The fact that that thought would even enter our heads is disgusting. None of the other posts in here have LOLJK attached to them.

[HappyMe]

41. I did read the whole thing.

It's still a horrifying thing to say.

[spanone]

12. i'd do everything i could to save another human being. bet you would too.

[Aristus]

13. He wouldn't want you to help him.

Helping him would include, but not be restricted to, calling a well-paid, unionized, government employee to come and put the fire out and/or jaws-of-life him out of the car.

Government intrusion in one's moment of death is not something conservatives will stand for...

[TahitiNut]

14. Pass the marshmallows.

:evilgrin:

[Lastactiongyro]

50. Stay Puff would be awesome.

[cynatnite]

18. Hahahaha...yeah, I'm laughing...

:eyes:

[canetoad]

19. Unrec for epic nasty

[RandomKoolzip]

22. Even joking about this shit is ghoulish.

These are PEOPLE we're talking about. Even in jest, a liberal ought to be pro-humanity.

Thumbs down and unrec.

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[LucySky]

25. sometimes the internet makes me feel like i need a shower.

[ClassWarrior]

26. Then you're obviously also a Rape-Publican.

NGU.

[flvegan]

28. I'd risk my life for him or her.

I don't stop being human based on political beliefs. Because I'm not like them.

[GoCubsGo]

33. Exactly!

I wouldn't even want to joke about being like them, let alone lower myself to their level.

[tuckessee]

29. Actually, Republicans would be against government forcing someone to rescue another.

Not against rescue in general. Try to understand the difference between socialism and charity.

[LiberalAndProud]

30. Yes, the hate peddlers sell their wares efficiently.

We have been well and truly divided from our countrymen.


Talking Heads and Devil's Minions monger. We queue up to purchase our portion.

[PVnRT]

31. I'd call 911

That's about it. Not being a trained rescue person, I'm likely just to hurt myself trying to rescue him.

What's that? Republicans cut emergency response budgets? That's unfortunate.

[SDuderstadt]

35. All the more reason to try to help...

dude.

The small-mindedness shown in your post lowers you to their level.

[PVnRT]

39. Ever been trained in first aid/CPR?

The central mantra is call 911 and do what you can without endangering yourself. Chances are, you'll just make it two people that need rescuing and medical attention instead of one (or two corpses instead of one).

Unless you keep a fire extinguisher in your car, there's not a whole lot you can do to rescue someone whose car is on fire. Or anyone trapped in a fire, as far as that goes.

[SDuderstadt]

40. Yet, people do it all the time and...

yes, I have been trained in first aid.

[PVnRT]

42. How many of them get injured/killed themselves?

If the first thing you do is anything other than call 911 or make sure someone else is, you didn't pay attention in your class.

[Javaman]

44. Everyone thinks they are bullet proof, until they aren't. :) nt

[SDuderstadt]

46. Some people don't worry about...

whether they are "bullet-proof".

[Javaman]

47. LOL good one...

Yeah, it's only after when they are in the burn center that everything suddenly matters.

I was a fireman for years.

I can give you a list of the people I saw in the burn centers who thought they were heroes.

You only ever hear about the ones that don't get burned. I can tell you will almost 100% certainty that there are at least 10-20 other people, to every hero that makes it out alive, who chose to be heroes that you never heard about because they wound up dead or in the hospital with life threatening injuries.

If you want to run into a burning building with out gear, knock yourself out, but just think of the fire-person who has to find your "charcoaled" body afterward.

I still get massive nightmares.

[SDuderstadt]

49. Who said anything about...

"running into a burning building", dude?

[Javaman]

58. You know...

I ignored you before, I think I will do it again.

you enjoy being contrary don't you?

I guess everyone needs a hobby.

cheers.

[SDuderstadt]

59. Oh, happy day! n/t

[LanternWaste]

52. Doing the right thing is metaphorically bullet proof...

Doing the right thing is metaphorically bullet proof.

Anything else is simply rationalizing an untenable moral position.

[SDuderstadt]

45. Dude...

show me where I said anything about not calling 911.

Please.

[One_Life_To_Give]

32. Be Selfish, avoid years of therapy nt

[Vinee]

34. I would, without hesitation, try to help anyone trapped in a burning car

or drowning or whatever. There are worse ways to get yourself killed.

[Badfish]

36. Thats a bad joke.

But there IS truth there.

Most Duers call Bush a monster for his war and torturing , but when faced with family members who also support war and torture , they treat them as equals , and with respect. ...and would never call them a monster.

Most DUers are hypocrites when it comes to this issue. They can tell you they aren't all day , but the facts remain

[olegramps]

37. With their hatred of Fire Fighters and Police isn't that what Republicans are doing?

They call them slobs for wanting a decent living for their families and then expect them to risk their life to save them. When they want to cut health care for the poor isn't this exactly their cruel response? If they can't afford it let them die is their motto. This is just how damn evil these bastards have become. Eisenhower would be ashamed of what has happened to the Republican Party. Their party has become the party of hatred.

[surrealAmerican]

38. I suspect, like most of us, you would never see ...

... "a republican" inside a burning car. You would see a person in dire need of help, and you would help as best you could.

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[fascisthunter]

48. actually you make a good point

[Fuzz]

54. I can't believe this thread hasn't been deleted. I've had posts deleted for 'naughty' words, this

will just be posted on conservative blogs, the title alone, to make all of DU look like assholes.

[ms.smiler]

55. The original post brings to mind a movie I once watched that was

supposedly based upon a true story. It was about an estranged or divorced couple I believe and the former husband intended to kill his former wife. He drove her out into the desert and along the way she discovered that he had brought a gun with him which was in the glove box. She snagged the gun, abandoned the vehicle and ran.

He chased her down in the car and finally crashed into a large rock. His legs were pinned and he could not exit the vehicle. The woman tried unsuccessfully to open the car door. Fire erupted under the hood and smoke filled the vehicle and flames soon reached the man. He screamed of course and perhaps asked that she shoot him since she had taken the gun.

I don't recall if he actually asked her to take such action which might matter legally or morally. I do remember the circumstance she faced. Should she allow her former husband to painfully burn to death, or should she use the gun to quickly end his life and save him the pain.

I think a case can be made to support any action or inaction. How much does the woman's motivation matter in such a circumstance?

If she had understandable hard feelings for him, she could have pranced about and mocked him while enjoying his screaming. What should have happened to her?

She could have dropped to her knees in tears as there was nothing she could do to help another person. What should have happened to her?

She could have aimed the gun, shot and taken joy in ending his life. What should have happened to her?

She could have aimed the gun, shot and found a way hopefully to make peace with such action as truly being merciful and fitting and perhaps following his wishes.

The woman admitted that she shot her ex husband as it was kinder than allowing him to burn to death. No other person was present.

Physical evidence matters, and as I recall, that evidence indicated that the man was shot after smoke inhalation. So it wasn't a situation where she shot her ex husband and then set the crashed vehicle ablaze to mask the shooting.

What do you suppose you might do in such a situation? Would it matter who the person was in the vehicle and what they wanted?

Now consider that the jury supposedly found the woman Guilty and she was imprisoned. I don't know and didn't read the case and it happened I believe in the 1970's. Should her motivation matter to the jury? Should just her action matter to the jury? Of course I also wonder if a Liberal jury might understand & recognize a mercy killing while a Conservative jury might only recognize a murder, no matter the motivation.

The story left me wondering that if I was in the same situation, no matter how unlikely, should I consider allowing someone to burn to death; because if I shot them to end their misery, I could be found Guilty of murder.

The movie and situation left me believing the only safe thing to do was let the person burn to death. I don't know though, that it is the decision I would make in that situation, especially if the person could indicate their wishes to me.

Now, just to be what may be considered snarky, if it was a known Republican in the vehicle that hated Socialism, then perhaps the correct action to take is to do one's best to break the window and toss them the gun. That way they could make their own decisions without help from anyone.

[RedCloud]

56. What about inside of a burning bush? Going to interfere with Yahweh?

[steve2470]

57. with all due respect Rocknrule, please request a lock of this thread

You may have been joking, but the thread title gives DU a bad name.

[AsahinaKimi]

60. IBTL

[Raine]

61. Subject lines often make the difference in opening a post

and deciding whether to read it or not. I know you were kidding but with that subject line many people probably didn't even open the post. Why not use some descretion in the subject line, geesh!