Women killed by boyfriend while 2 cops stand outside guarding her from same boyfriend

[Liberal_in_LA]

the events happened in 2009. It's still being analyzed

LAPD questions a crucial mistake
The night Flor Medrano was stabbed, LAPD officers were standing watch outside her apartment to see that she came to no harm. So what went wrong?

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Medrano climbed the stairs to her apartment on the second floor and disappeared inside. The officers kept watch from their car across the street, figuring her boyfriend, Daniel Carlon, might show.

Carlon, however, was already in the apartment. Strung out on cocaine and methamphetamine, he attacked Medrano with a foot-long knife, stabbing her repeatedly in the legs and chest. Hearing Medrano's screams, the officers bolted up the stairs. A metal security door and metal bars on the window allowed them no way in.

Peering through a small break in a window shade, Im saw Medrano, her shirt soaked in blood. Carlon was coming at her from behind with the knife raised.

The officer couldn't get a shot at him without likely hitting Medrano. "Police! Drop the knife!" Im shouted. "Drop the knife!"

Carlon hesitated, apparently surprised by the officer's presence. Then, he lunged at Medrano.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0302-lapd-stabbing-20110301,0,3545768.story

[Turbineguy]

1. This is why we should

legalize drugs. That way the police don't have to waste time protecting people from crazed drug addicts.

[blogslut]

4. That's your takeaway from this?

Really?

[cliffordu]

6. No kidding.

:eyes:

[Turbineguy]

13. It was a

snarky response related to some posts elsewhere. No. It was a terrible thing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=385614&mesg_id=385614

[Fuzz]

5. /sigh

[cali]

15. fuck. what a sicko response to this horrifying story.

[southerncrone]

2. When will domestic violence be taken seriously?

Plenty of lip-service given to it, but in reality women just keep dying at the hands of abusive men who are insecure control freaks.

[leftstreet]

3. When we stop calling it "domestic"

Assault is assault

Ever hear of "Intimate Neighbor Violence?"

:grr:

[southerncrone]

10. Yes, renaming it would be a good start.

Violence against those weaker than yourself.
Perpetrated by basically-overbearing, bullying cowards.

[Luminous Animal]

8. It will be a long time. Just look at all the Charlie Sheen supporters on DU.

[The Doctor.]

12. When people learn to work shit out themselves instead of calling in every door slam.

A woman tries to drive away drunk with kids in a car while a husband asks her "why?!?". It turns out she just wants to abandon the marriage for someone with $$$.

He calls the cops, who's the suspect?


When people act like adults, actual domestic violence can be taken seriously. In the meanwhile, the police are so overwhelmed by bullshit because someone can't fucking behave rationally. Unfortunately, they find that someone called out of spite, rather than fear of actual harm.

What are the cops to think about nearly any 'domestic violence' call?

I submit that they should take each and everyone absolutely seriously. The flip side is stretching out law enforcement and protection past its abilities. If you're a cop who's seen too many bullshit calls, you get a little numb to them.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the selfish idiots that create these problems first. I'm not talking about real victims, but people who want to *play* victim because they think it will get them somewhere. If ever there was an example of how 'Crying Wolf' can hurt people, this story is it.

[boston bean]

14. 3 women a day die at the hands of a husband, boyfriend, ex boyfirend, ex husband. nt

that's over 1000 a year.

[cali]

16. I don't think that's fair. It's taken very seriously many places. And it was

clearly taken seriously here. They fucked up, but that doesn't indicate that they didn't take it seriously. There wouldn't have been two LEOs there if they weren't taking it seriously.

[flvegan]

7. Whoa, whoa, whoa. They "figured" he might show and didn't check the apt BEFORE

she went up?

Idiots.

[jtuck004]

9. They didn't figure he would be sneaky, too. eom

[Beacool]

11. Poor woman!!

I've never been in that kind of situation, but if I really thought that a guy was set to hurt me, I would learn how to use a gun. How many women have died with an order of protection in their purse? Screw that!!! Learn how to shoot and the minute the SOB comes after you blow him away.

Last year there was a news item about a guy who had broken into a woman's home through her basement and raped her. He wasn't caught and months later came back for more. This time the woman was prepared. She heard noises coming from her basement and when the man came though the door she shot him dead. Good for her!!!

:(