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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:04 PM
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Why didn't Thurgood Marsahll step down when Carter was POTUS?
And is Ginsburg making the same mistake?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:10 PM
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1. Can you provide a little more information?
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:12 PM
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3. Jimmy Carter was POTUS. Thurgood Marshall waited too long to step down. End of story.nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:21 PM
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6. Unfortunately, that's a very simplistic view of things. Hindsight from 30+ years
is a perfect 20/20. And would a replacement of Thurgood Marshall have been better? We could have ended up with someone much worse.

Think about Bush the first who appointed one of the most liberal judge and then appointed the replacement for Marshall. It was a completely different situation 20-40 years ago.

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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:25 PM
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7. He didn't pick a liberal. He just picked someone who understood law and didn't try to change it from
Edited on Wed Mar-02-11 10:34 PM by LeftyAndProud60
the bench. Unlike the activist conservatives now. Thomas included. Carter wouldn't have appointed anyone worse than Thomas.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:29 PM
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8. Obviously, Thomas is NOT a liberal. What would you classify David
Souter as? Not an activist jurist or conservative jurist by any means.

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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:34 PM
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9. That's what I meant. Souter would probably still describe himself as conservative. That was luck for
us how that turned out. Didn't BUsh consider that a mistake? Souter followed and interpreted the law the way it should be. He didn't try to make new laws based on his political views was my point. Thank god for that man. I still believe he waited Bush out just because he didn't want to see him appoint another nut like the others. Roberts included.


Souter is a national hero. Ruth needs to follow his lead and stop being selfish.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:11 PM
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2. Yes, she is.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:18 PM
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4. Mistake??
Crimey. The woman is 77 years old. Last June, she lost her husband to cancer three days after their 56th wedding anniversary. She has battled colon cancer and is currently fighting pancreatic cancer.

If she is choosing to step down, so be it. It may not be a politically perfect moment - but it's HER life.

Mistake. geeze.
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:20 PM
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5. I hope you're happy when Robert Bork IV replaces her. NT
Edited on Wed Mar-02-11 10:20 PM by LeftyAndProud60
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:50 PM
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10. I think the OP is saying the mistake is that she's NOT stepping down now,
under Obama. As you mention, she's certainly faced a lot of trauma in the last few years, and we could understand her toughing it out if we had a Republican president, to ensure she wouldn't be replaced by another Roberts or Alito. But now? It just leaves some folks scratching their heads in confusion.
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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:55 PM
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11. She has already said she will retire
in 5 years, right in the middle of the next presidents term. She mentioned an age; I dont remember what it was though.
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:59 PM
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12. exactly. It's kinda selfish IMO. NT
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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:00 PM
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13. Yes
She should retire this year.

You wont make people here understand that though, Ive already tried.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:04 PM
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14. Why should he have?
He stayed on the bench another 10 years after President Carter left office.

And as for Ginsburg it's not for us to decide, it's her choice. Call it one of the perks.

P.S. We could also probably have a Democratic President until January 2017.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:07 PM
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15. It's too big of a risk imo and there is more at stake than a career choice for one person
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:09 AM
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16. Ginsburg will retire during Pres Obama's 2nd term. Don't worry be happy! :) n/t
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