Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 15 (or 17*), Part 5

[Catherina]

Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 15 (or 17*), Part 5

Today's threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

#Feb17 Youth organizers invite Gaddafi's collaborators to stand under his umbrella ella ella ella ella ella http://bit.ly/faa34E

"We have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya."
- Saif Islam Qaddafi during interview

*I called this Day 15 because the official start date was #Feb17 but the kickoff was 2 days early so in reality today is day 14.

Previous Day 14 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9

The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors in first place

Threads for Days 1-13 are in my journal

"I was born in Tunisia, I persevered in Egypt, I sacrificed myself in Libya, I have fought in Yemen&Bahrain. I am Freedom, I will not die."
- Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
Remains of Soldiers Burned to Death for Not Shooting Protesters in #Libya http://www.twitvid.com/YXKOT & http://tinyurl.com/4d6a57n

MAP of Protests across the Middle East


Click here for updated and interactive map
Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

[pinboy3niner]

1. K&R

[sasha031]

2. K&R

[Catherina]

3. For some of Tripoli's youth, this will be their last night. May God have mercy on all our martyrs

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
A thought: For some of Tripoli's youth, this will be their last night. May God have mercy on all our martyrs in #Libya #feb17
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

4. Mssg from a journalist in Tripoli, all our comm links are down, we foreign journos r headed there>>

HafedAlGhwell Hafed Al Ghwell
#libya #feb17 #gaddafi --This is a message from a journalist in Tripoli, please se... http://biggertwitter.com/s/j3v75d/
13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

#libya #feb17 #gaddafi --This is a message from a journalist in Tripoli, please send me any contacts which I will forward --- pleas spread the word : "I can't access facebook tonight. wanted to let you guys know that if there is a way to contact tajourans that we foreign journos are headed there en masse friday to cover their demonstration. human shields against bullets we hope. pls spread the word, if possible, as all our comm links are down...."

[Catherina]

5. Foreign journalists heading en masse to #Tajura Friday to act as human shields for demonstrations >>

ZahratTrablis Zahrat El
Foreign journalists heading en masse to #Tajura Friday to act as human shields for demonstrations via inside journalist contact #Libya
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Sorry but I'm really crying now. During the Egyptian revolution many foreign journalists, to include quite a few American ones, were incredibly brave. Many literally put their lives on the line at times to stand by the Egyptian people.

To those courageous journalists, not the jerks holed up in their hotels, I :patriot: you for your humanity.

[sasha031]

7. this will be an incredible day

:fistbump:

[Catherina]

11. I truly hope but I'm apprehensive.

I don't even know if I can sleep tonight because my stomach is in knots. If someone doesn't talk a little sense into that mad man and his brood they may go further than we've seen yet.

I AM going to pray tonight, pray for the Libyan people and pray that #G, his entire clan and his cronies die in their sleep. How, I really don't care.

[sasha031]

12. the media will be there, will he dare slaughter people in front of the world

I will be praying for them too,

:hug:

[bobbolink]

29. Why are you sorry for crying? It is callled for.

[defendandprotect]

34. LIBYA HURRA -- !!!

[Catherina]

6. The current time in Tripoli is 2:58 AM on Friday, 4 March 2011

TimeInLibya Time In Libya
#Libya The current time in Tripoli is 2:45 AM on Friday, 4 March 2011
12 minutes ago

[Kurovski]

8. K&R

[Catherina]

9. My People, song by Yusuf Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64YQqFdLHr4

An exclusive song by Yusuf initially written for the Egyptian people however can be applied to all despotic regimes.

TO DOWNLOAD YOUR FREE MP3 OF 'MY PEOPLE' VISIT YUSUFISLAM.COM FOR DETAILS http://www.yusufislam.com/

[rabs]

15. So glad you posted "My People" today.

Many more people will see and hear it.

Amazing how fast the Youtube version was uploaded, considering it was made available for free just yesterday.

Nice images, and the entire song.

K & R, as usual.

:hi:

[sasha031]

16. I haven't heard Cat Stevens in years Yusuf Islam

it's in my favorites:patriot:

[pinboy3niner]

10. "The voice of a new nation speaks"

On MSNBC, the top of Eliot Spitzer's show just now was a brief telephone interview with Abdel Hasib Ghoga, Vice President of the Libyan Provisional Council, the new revolutionary government in Free Libya.

The segment was headlined, "BREAKING NEWS: Never before heard from. The voice of a new nation speaks."

****Vice President Ghoga said the LPC is demanding world recognition as the legitimate government of Libya; enforcement of a no-fly zone, especially directed at preventing arrival of mercenaries from Niger, Chad and Mali; and international condemnation of those three nations for providing support to Gaddifi in his oppression and violence against the people of Libya.****

[joshcryer]

13. Interesting, they said they were not a provisional government. Power grab?

[Catherina]

14. My fears too n/t

[joshcryer]

17. Or bad reporting?

[pinboy3niner]

23. It's normally a temporary measure to fill the void and prepare for elections

Provisional government

A provisional government is an emergency or interim government set up when a political void has been created by the collapse of a very large government. The early provisional governments were created to prepare for the return of royal rule. Irregularly convened assemblies during the English Revolution, such as Confederate Ireland (1641-49), were described as "provisional." The practice of using "provisional government" as part of a formal name can be traced to Talleyrand's government in France in 1814. The numerous provisional governments during the Revolutions of 1848 gave the word its modern meaning: A liberal government established to prepare for elections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_government

[joshcryer]

25. "He said the council was not an intrim government":

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/02/2011227175955221853.html

I'm just trying to understand if this is a change from the original intentions of the National Libyan Council formation and if so, what. Are they doing making this claim to get UN representation to act?

[pinboy3niner]

30. It looks like their understandings and decisions about their role are evolving

They've also had contradictory positions on a no-fly zone (or perhaps it depended upon whom on the council journalists asked about it).

The council already is providing governmental services in the Eastern part of the country (Free Libya), and they logically will be the entity in the best position to fill the national void, temporarily, when Gaddafi is ousted.

I'm not sure about their specific intentions in seeking international recognition beyond the fact that it would further undermine and de-legitimize the current regime (which is no samll thing in itself).

[David__77]

20. If that is true, it is a tactical error.

Struggling over issues of diplomatic recognition are highly diversionary for any movement seeking to capture state power. Right now, there is a strategic equilibrium between the two forces. Military questions are of paramount concern to both parties at this moment, and that is not going to be affected by external forces in enough time to really make a difference.

[pinboy3niner]

18. Saif Gaddafi: "I know they want to split the country. They want to just destroy it."

AJE Live Blog - Libya March 4:

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's son, has been speaking to Al Jazeera's Anita McNaught in Tripoli. An excerpt from the interview:

"It's a joke, please. We are not kids, stop calling us ... we have no money outside. <...> Give me a single evidence that we- show me our bank accounts <you allege that we have abroad>. Show me. <...>

"The west, we know them very well. When you are strong, they run after you. They are like, you know, they are like cats. If you are weak, they want to be like tigers. We know this game... we know them for a long time. The West, the Americans, the NATO ... we don't pay attention to them.

"Please, come on. We know the organised media campaign against Libya. This country will survive. I know they want to split the country. They want to just destroy it. They want to control its assets, it's a very rich country. Small population. This will not happen. So we are telling those people: be happy. This will never happen. Because the Libyan people are so united. And please, wait for surprises."

Wondering what those surprises are? Tune in to Talk to Al Jazeera today at 1530GMT. <10:30 AM EST, 7:30 AM PST>

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

[joshcryer]

22. *sigh* @ March 4 Live Blog pic.

I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Dang untrained civilians. :(

[Catherina]

19. Wow. Don't know if I told you guys this but

in parallel conjunction to posting these tweet threads, I also Facebook and twitter. My tweets are replies, comments, but mostly retwittering the tweets I post here. It's quite the mechanical effort with repeated keyboard & mouse strokes and the reason I can get so easily thrown off tangent (and cranky) if I get distracted.

Look what just came across from someone with almost 5000 followers for people to follow on twitter tomorrow! Some of them are heavyweights too.

biladee P D
#Followfriday #Love @Satyagrahi_ji @Dputamadre @Catherina_Guate @PeruNews @Refugees @EANewsFeed
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

I was shocked to see that. Pleasantly though.

[pinboy3niner]

43. You deserve it for all the work you are doing

What it really means, though, is that your work--and the information you are disseminating--are valuable.

Most of us here picture you like some modern Hindu deity--with three heads, six arms and three keyboards, lol! We can't figure out how you manage to keep up. We know it takes an enormous amount of effort just to read and cull all the messages (plus watching the videos and listening to the audios). To tweet, retweet, post here, and facebook on top of that you have to have the fortitude of a superhero!

Keep up the great work, Catherina! We love you...

Peace,
inboy3niner

:yourock:

[Catherina]

21. Translated video: Libyan sister raises morale!

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
Translated video: Libyan sister raises morale! -... http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/translated-video-libyan-sister-raises-morale/
34 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Translated video: Libyan sister raises morale!
Posted on March 4, 2011 by Admin

VIDEO

Translation:

May peace be with you,
A call from a Libyan sister. A call to all those who are free. A call to the eagles of Libya. Today is your day, tomorrow is your day free people of Libya. I tell every mother and every sister: Get up, and encourage your father, encourage your brother and encourage your husband and tell him GO OUT and don’t be scared, behind you are men, behind you is the mother of the free, behind you is a sister. Tell him GO OUT with a zaghroota (a type of sound made moving the tongue left and right and breathing out), bring them out my countrymen, go out! Tripoli must be free tomorrow.

This corrupt tyrant must leave my country, must leave my country. Send them out with Zghareet (the tongue moving sound), tell them today is your day, this is your day you Libyan eagles. This is your day O free people! This is your day O martyrs! Avenge your martyrs, and tell this corrupt person: GO OUT! Tell this tyrant: ENOUGH! 42 years, every mother is crying over her child, and every sister is crying over her orphaned children. Tell them to go out, the day of Friday is the day of your gathering, the day of the free, we will write a banner on Libya: Oh my free country, oh my country that has been watered with the blood of Libyans. How beautiful is the scent of my country.

I am a Libyan and proud to be Libyan. I am a Libyan and my country is a free and Arab nation. Tomorrow is your day free sons of Libya. Go out! Encourage your husband, encourage your man and tell him: Enough, he tricked you with £500, he tricked you with $500, he tricked you with 500 dinars? Students, why? Why do you accept degradation? This is OUR MONEY, our sustenance, our blood, none of this goes in vain. I tell every Libyan: my sister, my mother, my daughter, send them out! Tell him to go out for his appointed day! This is the day of victory! And I tell you o corrupt one, o Mu’ammar. I won’t call you Gaddafi, I will call you Gardafi (Gard or Gird means monkey), I am a Libyan woman and I wish I could detonate myself in you, and I tell you today is your day, this is your day you coward. If you are a real man you’d go out to the central square, if you’re a man you and your children.

Long live Libya! Long live Libya! And long live its martyrs! Those who died their blood will not go in vain. Those who died, we will for them their day. Tomorrow is your gathering Libyans! Come out! Come out and encourage your countrymen! Don’t stay and run away in the woods. Go out and tell him GO OUT! I don’t want you if you are not ready to bring me my rights. He will start to bring in the Africans to your homes, and your decency will be assaulted! Libyan women, do you accept to see your daughter being indecently assaulted? This is not a Libyan man, I swear you are not Libyan. If you are Libyan, you would never do this to your countryman. You would never kill them, you would never detonate them. Wrong of you, wrong of you. Leave our country. Our country has worshippers. God is Greater! God is greater than the tyrants. A day will come for you who oppress me. I bear witness that there is no god except God and that Muhammed is the messenger of God!

Welcome to heaven, it has come near! Welcome to heaven, it has come near! Zaghrtee (make the tongue sound) O Libyan woman. This is your day, and this is your morning. Our day and we will take it, with revenge! It won’t be taken easily, we will take it with blood! The blood that has watered my country in every alley. I tell you, its eagles will come for you, they will pluck you out, and take you from street to street, and alley to alley (zenga zenga!) and hole to hole. Real men have come for you. Today I am not afraid for myself, I say I have eagles that will take for me my rights. And I say this, and I say it with a loud voice: Welcome to heaven, it has come near! Welcome to heaven, it has come near! May peace be with you.

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/translated-video-libyan-sister-raises-morale/

[Catherina]

24. There are almost no tweets now... Goodnight for a few hours

I think everyone is resting a little before tomorrow so I'm going to sleep too now.

Goodnight dear friends

[joshcryer]

26. 'night, rest up.

[Poboy]

27. You're a MACHINE. please get REST!

[pinboy3niner]

28. Goodnight, Catherina

Rest well--it looks like you're going to have a very busy day. :hug:

[pinboy3niner]

31. S&P Chief Economist: How Libya crisis affects global oil price spikes

From AJE Live Blog - Libya March 4:

David Wyss, the chief economist at the Standard & Poor's ratings agency, tells Al Jazeera that the reason for the spike in global oil prices is not so much the loss in actual supply from Libya (it has currently cut production by about 1million barrels, which is being made up by Saudi Arabia), but because of the wider implications if the unrest in the country spreads.

He says that if unrest were to spread to the Persian Gulf, oil prices could "quite easily be back to the <2008> $148/barrel" level, the highest level oil prices have ever climbed to.

At the moment, he says with oil priced at about $101/barrel, the markets can cope, but it would be a problem if they approached those 2008 levels.

As for Libya, a supply disruption for a couple of months will not impact too badly either domestically or internationally, but anything longer than that would have more serious implications both for international oil prices but also for Libya's income.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

[pinboy3niner]

32. ROFL! Gaddafi suddenly reveals huge drug bust in Libya. ZOMG!1!! Al Qaeda!1!! Oh noes!1!!

Courtesy of AJE's Live Blog:

After Muammar Gaddafi's consistent claims that those rebelling against his rule are drug-addled youths being manipulated by al-Qaeda, the Libyan anti-narcotics force now says it has intercepted 37 million units of Tramadol, a painkiller, that had been allegedly bought by a Libyan drug dealer "with links to al-Qaeda".

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

Anderson Cooper also reported on this at the top of his AC360 show on CNN tonight. After showing the huge cache of drugs that the regime staged for the press, he described Gaddafi's claims about AQ putting hallucinogenics in Libyans' Nescafe. Finally, he ended with the punchline: the drugs that were intercepted were not hallucinogenics--they were a common painkiller! :rofl:

Well done, Anderson!

[pinboy3niner]

41. Libya narc on drug bust: The (painkiller) drugs "would have caused social and economic disorder"

From AJE blogs:

More on Libya's interception of what it said was 37 million units of a painkiller aimed at altering the minds of young people to revolt. (See our earlier post.)

The Reuters news agency cites Mahmoud Ali, who said he was the head of Libya's anti-narcotics department, as saying authorities intercepted shipments of Tramadol which had originated in Dubai and were purchased by a Libyan drug dealer with ties to al-Qaeda.

"The target was the distribution of the drugs among young people through drug traffickers," Abdel Haqim Giniwa, another anti-narcotics official, told a news conference.

"Thanks to all the hard work of the security forces, this quantity of the drug was intercepted. It would have caused social and economic disorder."

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

Yeah (I can't resist commenting). It would have caused the Libyan people to start tripping, and maybe even to become a tiny bit pissed about their government murdering them and their children. C'mon people. Everything is fine and you're HAPPY! Why can't you just be reasonable and smile for the media?

[pinboy3niner]

33. AJE: Twitter "abuzz" with unverified reports of air strikes in Misurata in last hour

...Twitter is abuzz with reports of "air strikes" being carried out in the western city of Misurata within the last hour. These reports remain unverified, but we will keep you updated on the situation as it develops.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

[defendandprotect]

35. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[Desertrose]

36. Fresh reports of bomb attacks on eastern Libya town of Brega

CurlingRiver RT @BreakingNews Fresh reports of bomb attacks on eastern Libya town of Brega - SkyNews (Shades of Bosnia and even Rwanda? Can't we help?) about 1 minute ago · reply

[Alamuti Lotus]

37. Blood and mercy in revolution

Blood and mercy in revolution

The last thing I should care about--and anybody in the Arab world should care about--are the Western standards and criteria and conditions regarding upheavals in the Arab world. One day they urge restraint and non-violence against their favorite tyrants (Bin Ali and Mubarak), and another day they endorse the armed, violent revolt against a tyrant (Qadhdhafi) who is not as seasoned in loyalty to the US, although since 2003, he has prostrated as far as his forehead can touch the shoes of US officials who visited him. But my point is this: all those liberal, non-violent standards should be discarded at a time of revolution against bloody tyrants, like Qadhdhafi and all the rest. Mubarak should be dragged from Sharm Ash-Shaykh and should be subjected to the same speedy, Mahdawi-style, military trials that he imposed on innocent Egyptians. Let the Western governments shed their tears over that. Revolutions are bloody and Western standards are at least hypocritical. The rightist fans of Edmond Burks have convinced generations of Westerners that the French Revolution was a bloody affair when a couple of thousands of French people were killed: hell, the US has killed more than that in one day in its lousy war in Iraq. They can't preach anything especially that their preachings at this time are intended only to prolong the lives of dictatorships albeit in different names and guises. There should be no mercy shown to the criminals of the Qadhdhafi family or the Mubarak family. Their rule has been soaked in blood since day one. Arab revolutionaries should press ahead with little attention--if any--to what the White Man in Western capitals is saying. I really think that mercy at this time in Egypt or Tunisia or Libya may be the factor that could undermine the goals of revolution. Don't give me the bogus Christian notions of "turn-the-other cheek" (when Jesus also said: "I came here with a sword") when Christianity has caused more deaths and destruction than any other world religion. Enough already.

Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil at 8:30 AM
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/03/blood-and-mercy-in-revolution.html

[joshcryer]

38. +1 all the way.

[pinboy3niner]

40. Well, I have to appreciate and respect his perspective...

...even though it may not be the same as my Western, white man's perspective.

The frustration and anger he's feeling drips from every letter he typed. I can't say as I blame him. And no one can deny his feelings. In a way, this is what we have wrought...

[steve2470]

39. +1 nt

[pinboy3niner]

42. Venezuelan protesters condemn Chavez, support Libyan people (photo)

Courtesy of AJE:

Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez continues to push his mediation plan despite the idea being rejected by Libyan opposition groups and Western governments.

Protesters in Venezuela have added their voices to the uprising, chanting slogans in support of the Libyan people and condemning Chavez's proposal to work with Gaddafi, whom they labelled a murderer.

This photo, provided by the Reuters news agency, shows a protest in support of the Libyan people in the Venezuelan capital, Caracas:




http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

[defendandprotect]

49. KR

[pinboy3niner]

44. Thousands of migrant workers jobless and unable to leave Libya

AJE video report here, time-stamped 8:09pm:

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

[pinboy3niner]

45. CNN's AC/360 had some excellent reports on Libya Thursday

It's probably too soon to find a video of the entire program, but Thursday's program was exceptionally informative and well worth watching. You can find some of the best segments by scrolling down to "Best of TV" on the right side and looking for Libya segments here:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/

[pinboy3niner]

46. Reuters: New air attack against Ajdabiyah (no independent confiration yet)

From AJE:


The Reuters news agency is now reporting a new air attack in eastern Libya, citing witnesses who say a Libyan warplane dropped a bomb near a rebel-held base in the eastern town of Ajdabiyah.

We are working to confirm that report.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

[joshcryer]

47. AJE Live Blog: Ahmed Radwan is an Egyptian vascular surgeon (more dead than alive):

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbBJOYxpxc

Heartbreaking. LIBYA WILL NOT QUIT UNTIL THE TYRANT IS GONE.

[Catherina]

48. Day 16, Part 1 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x554701