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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:32 AM
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Huckabee: "Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can't get a job..."
Huckabee Rips Natalie Portman Over Pregnancy

3/4/2011 7:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff

Fox News host Mike Huckabee claims Oscar winner Natalie Portman is a bad role model for America -- all because she got knocked up before marriage.



http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/04/natalie-portman-mike-huckabee-pregnant-unmarried-critical-criticism-oscar-academy-award-winner-black-swan/

Huckabee went on a radio show Monday and said, "One of the most troubling things is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet that boasts of, hey look, we're having children, we're not married, but we're having children and they're doing just fine."

Huckabee -- a Republican who could make a run for the White House -- added, "There aren't really a lot of single moms out there that are making millions of dollars each year by being in a movie"

"I think it gives a distorted image that not everybody hires nannies and caretakers and nurses. Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can't get a job, and if it weren't for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and would not get healthcare."
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:34 AM
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1. "if it weren't for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death
and would not get healthcare"

Yes, Mike, that's true. And isn't it such a good thing you and the rest of the Repugs are so anti-government and deem any government social programs as "socialist"?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:44 AM
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12. He will do his best to fix that situation by eliminating any Government help.
:shrug:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:34 AM
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2. Is that man really THAT stupid!?
Did he just call some of his potential voters poor, uneducated and can't get a job (lazy)? WOW. That one brain cell must be getting lonely...and wanting to go extinct like his brothers and sisters. :eyes:
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:23 PM
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22. Yes, he is that stupid. (nt)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:35 AM
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3. He needs to pay more attenition to his own family
Didn't one of the sons already get into trouble with the law?

And btw, he needs to shut the f up, in general.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:38 AM
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6. Yes indeed.
Huckabee and the Boy Scouts
His Son Was Fired As a Scout Counselor for Torturing a Dog to Death
Jon Ponder | Mar. 4, 2011



David Huckabee in mug shot from an April 2007 arrest on weapons charges

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2011/03/04/huckabee-and-the-boy-scouts-his-son-was-fired-as-a-scout-counselor-for-torturing-a-dog-to-death/

Leaving aside the fact that both the Scouts and Rotary are international organizations, and that both have longstanding branches in Indonesia (and that there at least three Islamic centers in Little Rock, Ark., where Huckabee lived when he was governor), Huckabee opened a can of worms when he brought the Scouts into his attempts to smear Pres. Obama.

As Trish reported here in December 2007, during the 2008 presidential primaries, it came out that, at age 18, Huckabee’s son David had been fired by the Scouts as a camp counselor after he and another counselor captured a stray dog, hanged him by the neck, slit his throat and stoned him to death.

The elder Huckabee, who was governor of Arkansas at the time, later fired a local prosecutor who had investigated the matter with the aim of filing animal cruelty charges against David Huckabee and the other boy. In the end, other than being fired by the Boy Scouts, the boys were never held accountable for killing the helpless dog.

Since Mike Huckabee has chosen to spend the week smearing the president’s family by criticizing his upbringing and the way it purportedly shaped his worldview, someone should ask him who warped his own son into the kind of person who would commit such a heinous and gruesome act — was it David Huckabee’s bigoted Southern Baptist preacher father, the Boy Scouts of America — or both?
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:47 AM
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14. that is some sick sh*t
Who does that kind of thing, other than a psychopath? Seriously. That guy needs professional help. I know kids can be cruel and I can maybe imagine an 8-year-old killing bugs for fun and not growing up to be dangerous, but an 18-year-old torturing a dog is hella scary.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:19 PM
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21. Nascent serial killer
Somebody should check out that guy's crawlspace.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:22 AM
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51. He learned from his father's example.
The holier than thou preacher wanted to strap the family dog on the roof of the car when they went on vacation. He said the dog would enjoyed the wind at 70 miles an hour.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:05 AM
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53. That was actually Mitt Romney, not Huckabee
Romney's Cruel Canine Vacation

By ANA MARIE COX Wednesday, Jun. 27, 2007



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

The reporter intended the anecdote that opened part four of the Boston Globe's profile of Mitt Romney to illustrate, as the story said, "emotion-free crisis management": Father deals with minor — but gross — incident during a 1983 family vacation, and saves the day. But the details of the event are more than unseemly — they may, in fact, be illegal.

The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus's rather visceral protest.

Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out." The officer, Nadia Branca, declined to give a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law but did note that it's against state law to have a dog in an open bed of a pick-up truck, and "if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it, that would be illegal." And while it appears that the statute of limitations has probably passed, Stacey Wolf, attorney and legislative director for the ASPCA, said "even if it turns out to not be against the law at the time, in the district, we'd hope that people would use common sense...Any manner of transporting a dog that places the animal in serious danger is something that we'd think is inappropriate...I can't speak to the accuracy of the case, but it raises concerns about the judgment used in this particular situation."

Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, was less circumspect. PETA does not have a position on Romney's candidacy per se, but Newkirk called the incident "a lesson in cruelty that was ... wrong for to witness...Thinking of the wind, the weather, the speed, the vulnerability, the isolation on the roof, it is commonsense that any dog who's under extreme stress might show that stress by losing control of his bowels: that alone should have been sufficient indication that the dog was, basically, being tortured." Romney, of course, has expressed support for the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques when it comes to terrorists; his campaign refused to comment about the treatment of his dog.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:13 PM
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20. a strong 2nd for that
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:37 AM
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4. OK, it's tiem fro all of us --
who were raised by single Moms write this fucker and give him an education. :mad:
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:37 AM
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5. ...and that is why we are trying to eliminate government assistance."
Shame on those MOTHERS for getting pregnant. BTW, Huckabee, why don't you criticize the one who got her pregnant for not supporting his kid?

I get so sick and tired of hearing the mothers criticized and not ONE MENTION of the men who contributed to the problem, but were not the solution.

I was never in that situation, but I see the desperation of mothers around town who scrape together what little money they can to feed their kids...clothe them and keep a roof over their heads.

She didn't get in that situation by herself. Let's talk about HIM for a change. Grrrr!
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:37 PM
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29. You said exactly what I was thinking. nt
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:39 AM
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7. shameless courting of the Stupids
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:39 AM
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8. This sort of shit is why Huckabee is dangerous. He SEEMS like a nice guy at first.
Which covers up the fact that he is, in actuality, a Class-A fuckstick with a minor in asshattery.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:12 PM
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19. Weird...I never got a nice guy vibe from him, but I am allergic to preacher types.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:39 PM
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31. I second that. n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:40 AM
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9. If at first you don't succeed, blame it on the welfare queen.
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 11:51 AM by Dappleganger
This was a funny tweet today: "Mike Huckabee slams Natalie Portman for 'out of wedlock' baby ADDING, BRISTOL PALIN WAS TOTALLY "IMMACULATE CONCEPTION."
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:40 AM
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10. Oh no he didn't! This single mom begs to differ ...
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 11:41 AM by Myrina
... I have a master's degree (that I put myself through college - while working - to get), I'm a homeowner, taxpayer, do volunteer work and have a brilliant BI-RACIAL (zomg!) daughter who's a sophomore in college majoring in music and getting ready to spend a semester abroad.

Go fuck yourself, Huckster!!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:42 AM
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11. I agree with Huckabee on this, basically. IME, most single mothers are poor.
I don't agree that most are uneducated and can't find a job. Most of them I know/have known have jobs.

However I do think that movies and TV influence people a lot, especially those young people who aren't getting much guidance in RL. While I didn't see this movie, I think that movies/TV that portray being a single mother as a great thing are misguided.

In RL, if you're a single mother, you're quite likely to be poor. Once you've had that child, you're in for a struggle from here on out. Unless you are fortunate and have a family that is very supportive.

I know I'm going to be in the minority here, but that's how I feel about it.










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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:45 AM
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13. (Former) single mom checking in
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 12:05 PM by lapislzi
I'm the one with the Master's Degree making six figures as a department manager in a successful company. The one who owns a house and a car. Who contributes to her 401(k). And insures her child. Who cooks healthy, nourishing meals whenever time permits. Who goes to school things. Who shovels her own snow and takes out her own damn garbage. I'm the one who pays her bills.

I'm the one setting the example of what a strong, independent woman looks like.

You're welcome, Mr. Huckabee. Now go fuck yourself.

Edited to add: I was not born rich. My (2-parent) family was on public assistance and food stamps. My mother died alone and unattended in the corridor of a public hospital, waiting for treatment. I worked my way through college and paid back every dime of my student loans.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:51 PM
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37. You go girl, from another (former) single mom! n/t
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:08 PM
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42. Back atcha, gf! n/t
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:59 AM
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15. Some, but not most. And those who are USED TO be able to have a
shot at surviving minimally due to federal programs that provided monthly assistance, funds for daycare, funds for job-training, funds for Food Stamps, funds for prenatal medical services and pediatrics, etc.

The republican party took that away. THAT'S why some single mothers are "very poor, uneducated, and can't get a job".
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Staph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:01 PM
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16. Huckabee needs to have a chat with Dan Quayle
for a reminder on how well that kind of rant worked for Quayle in the 1992 campaign when he took on Murphy Brown.


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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:08 PM
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17. Another Murphy Brown moment
:eyes:

My single, middle-class, college-educated mom, who worked in an office and eventually as a paralegal, never took any government assistance, fed me perhaps too well :-) , and would doubtless think of Schmuckabee as something she'd scrape off the bottom of her shoe.
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Jankyn Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:50 PM
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36. Amen to that!
Didn't work for Quayle, won't work for Huckabee. Every American knows at least one single parent, and we know that Huckabee's stereotype is simply untrue.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:14 PM
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44. Look, Anne Sexton!
:thumbsup:
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:10 PM
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18. what is his problem
the babies weren't aborted.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:27 PM
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23. Yeah so make their lives harder!
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 12:31 PM by Tsiyu

Take away their birth control and eliminate their ability to get an abortion!

That'll show those poor single mothers!

That'll help 'em!!!!

Damned if you do, damned if you don't with these guys...

On edit: and why didn't he pick on Palin's daughter????
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:27 PM
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24. How very Murphy Brownesque of him. nt
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 12:27 PM by valerief
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:29 PM
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25. Uh-huh...so explain why I made more as a single mom
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 12:30 PM by rainbow4321
then when I was married, guy. And still have managed to put one child thru a four year college (on my own as her father refused to help) and am now putting another thru school (again, on my own).

I can explain for you, Fuckabee: I get to keep track of every penny I make and not have to worry about where my then husband has blown money this time. I still remember his pouting words to me a week after we split up, it was on his first payday post-split up "I just looked in my bank account..I guess I didn't realize who was putting most of the money in our account". YES, that was ME putting "most of" the money in "our" account...you know that little thing called a four year nursing degree that I struggled to get as I was being your wife, mother to our baby while still working part time to help pay the bills you racked up, THAT little degree and ME are gone from your life now. As is my paycheck.

I look at the paperwork that social security mails out that lists how much one earns since the day you started work..comparing my married days to post-divorce days I've earned between $20,000-$30,000 more a year in my single mom years than my married days. And ya know, unlike when I was married, I began saving/budgeting money to take the kids on annual vacations to places like NYC (twice), Washington DC, Las Vegas, and Galveston.

Unlike my married days, I knew/know where every penny was spent and was able to budget on my own to do stuff like that.
Which is something I never really knew when I was married unless you count opening our credit card bill and seeing that my then husband was treating his friends to lunch ALOT and not asking to be paid back or bouncing a utility bill and finding out from him that instead of depositing my paycheck in the bank, he withdrew it and most of my hard earned money was IN his wallet and NOT in the bank.


So Fuckabee needs to shut his mouth and stop with the generalized "most" crap....



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Bardley Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:32 PM
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26. .......
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 01:06 PM by Bardley
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:35 PM
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27. I really hope this insane Talibangelical goes away after 2012.
And he can take Palin with him. :puke:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:36 PM
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28. Psst! He's saying "they're black welfare queens".
In dog whistle. It's the same reason they attack Planned Parenthood.
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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:39 PM
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30. I know that on the surface it sounds like what he said is ignorant, but I think he has a point
They're all connected. You can't get an education when you've got a kid to support, and without an education you're not going to end up with a high paying job. If you can't afford daycare, and you have nobody to watch your kid, there's no way you can go to work, so you end up on government assistance (of course this is a total generalization, and all of the single moms I know have a job. But it's hard being a single mom, and many of them are dirt poor simply because they can't go back to school or get a higher paying job that has better hours, because they've got a kid to take care of). I know it's a pipe dream, but a universal daycare service would solve many of these problems. They've been trying to get a universal daycare program in Canada for years, but with no luck so far.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:39 PM
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32. I do hope Natalie Portman responds.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:41 PM
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33. Why Is He Picking on Natalie Portman and Not Bristol Palin?
go fuck yourself, mr huckabee
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Lynx Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:43 PM
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34. I don't recall
I don't recall hearing Natalie Portman asking for this asshole's opinion. Was it during her Oscar acceptance speech? By the way that boy of his is one sick fuck. No one who harms an animal has the right to call himself human.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:47 PM
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35. Do NOT let this man get near the levers of power
He WILL drag America back to the dark ages if given the chance.
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:51 PM
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38. Most TEENAGE moms are probably very poor, uneducated and can't get a job.
So of course the natural response is to declare that life begins at conception and ban ALL form of birth control. If that doesn't work, then you defund REAL sex education in favor of "Abstinence Only" education which does nothing more than increase the likelihood that a young girl/woman will end up pregnant before she's ready.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 12:56 PM
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39. He exaggerates but is probably basically right.
While I don't know for sure (does anyone have any data?), I'd be frankly amazed if, on average, single mothers were not poorer and less well educated than the population as a whole.

I don't know what employment among single mothers is like, though - it's entirely possible it's higher than mothers as a whole, given that single mothers are more likely to need to work.

I doubt many of them would get as far as "their children starving to death" without government assistance, but a lot of them would probably be fairly badly off.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:04 PM
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40. I just sent this dingleberry an email on his official site.
Told him he owes women an apology for the disrespect he is showing us. I think we should inundate him feedback.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:08 PM
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41. OMG! Lots of married couples with children poor, uneducated, can't find a job... asshole.
Stupid fucking asshole.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:11 PM
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43. The wonderful version of the current day...
get back to the kitchen and rely on your GOOD HUSBANDS, or bad or whatever...

This guy is a fascist.
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 01:35 PM
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45. So when can we expect a tweet from and Indignant Palin?
Let's see who can screw themselves over with the value voters first, lol.

What a moron for Huckabee to pick a fight like this so early on.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:02 AM
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46. This is an important topic, because Hollywood stars influence all our life choices.
If we can't analyze America's probelms by starting with Hollywood/Fantasyland, what hope is there? :sarcasm:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:09 AM
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47. 'Scuse me, Chucklenuts, but Ms. Portman's announcement of her engagement to the father
of the baby would indicate that it is not her plan to raise the child as a single mother. Would you have preferred that she use her money and connections to get a discrete abortion somewhere?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:12 AM
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48. And most of Huck's kids are dog hanging, gutting freaks.
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:13 AM
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49. Racist code words. The same tactic employed by Raygun.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:14 AM
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50. As I stated in another post on this subject, why isn't he talking about the guys that knocked these
women up? It's not like they get pregnant on their own and more than likely, it's not that they want to be single moms. Generally, it takes a "dad" leaving to make them single moms. Isn't that the real problem? That neither party was very responsible when it came time to have sex and yet it's almost always the mother that then has to take the responsibility on of raising this child? You gotta wonder if these Theofascists weren't so enamored with teaching abstinence only and instead supported teaching sex education, we'd have less single moms who are undereducated and poor ('cause they'd be able to finish high school and beyond). It's just another way to show that conservatives hate women.

BTW, another point I'd like to address as a single, undereducated woman (I only have a high school degree), is that I bet I make more money than a lot of people with college degrees, so please don't take the stance that being "undereducated" often means a person is poor.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:26 AM
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52. .
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