State says damage to marble at WI Capitol could hit $7.5 million

[The Northerner]

Madison - State officials said on Thursday that damage to the marble inside and out the State Capitol would cost an estimated $7.5 million.

Cari Anne Renlund, chief legal counsel for the state Department of Administration, said in Dane County court that estimates of damage to marble includes $6 million to repair damaged marble inside the Capitol, $1 million for damage outside and $500,000 for costs to supervise the damage.

Much of the damage apparently has come from tape used to put up signs and placards at the Capitol.

It was not immediately clear how the estimates were made, though the state is apparently relying on opinions by historical architects, one of whom works for the U.S. Park Service.

One concern is the residue from tape that the state says is causing damage to stone and other surfaces inside the Capitol.

Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/117340918.html

[louis-t]

1. Obviously republic fuzzy math.

[EFerrari]

19. Yes. Over the weekend I read a statement by the state conservator

that said the protesters were being very good about protecting their heritage buildings.

Surely he would know. :)

[damntexdem]

2. So Walker and his cronies are playing marbles while Wisconsin hurts.

Hundreds of millions of dollars of damage being done to current and future human lives in Wisconsin.

[Blue Owl]

3. I'd be surprised if the marble itself cost that much

n/t

[leftstreet]

4. Tape can damage marble?

Seriously?

[CTyankee]

33. Lots of marble in lots of buildings in the world have survived CENTURIES.

Haven't these folks ever been to Rome?

I dunno. Maybe they got low grade marble installed in the capitol...sheesh.

[Baclava]

5. Tape damage? Hire me today and I'll do the cleaning for $100,000

Yes - I take PayPal

[gatorboy]

6. Who knew that Windex was so expensive!

[Horse with no Name]

7. There is this stuff called adhesive remover

It really doesn't cost THAT much...but I guess there is a no-bid contractor that they want to shovel some bucks in his pocket.

[rfranklin]

9. Koch Brothers Kleaning Kompany...

removes tough unions and other socialist residue.

[Kurovski]

14. DUzy!

[myrna minx]

21. LOL.

[Happyhippychick]

31. AKA the KKK

[Raine]

13. Cooking oil too will remove tape residue

and wouldn't be expensive.

[FSogol]

8. That's what non-Union janitors will charge the State to wipe goop-off on some marble.

That's why the country cannot afford the GOP's privatization schemes.

[somone]

10. Estimate submitted by Koch Brothers tape removal service?

[david13]

11. I don't believe it. dc

[99th_Monkey]

12. No doubt the "bi-bid contract" for this work will go to none other than some Koch Bro. firm - n/t

[Taverner]

15. Two words: Goo Gone

Two more: Goof Off

[randr]

16. I'll do it for 6 mil and the state can pocket the savings

Where do I send my bid?

[drm604]

17. Tape damages marble?

I'll admit that I don't know anything about the chemistry of tape or marble but I'm skeptical.

[NeedleCast]

18. How about we stop using marble in public buildings because it costs so much

at taxpayer expense?

A few years ago I was out in Santa Ana, California to do some work at a state courthouse. One full side of the building was covered in expensive Italian marble (that all had to come from the same quarry in Italy), in addition to much of the flooring. The carpeting was also incredibly expensive in the courtrooms.

This is why California is broke.

[ejbrush]

29. Considering the building was completed in 1917,

I am pretty sure it hasn't contributed to the current fiscal situation.

[NeedleCast]

34. not the building I was in

The one I was in may not have been the county courthouse however it was a government building housing the courts for the Executive Office for Immigration review, among other courts. I don't remember if it was all DoJ branches, so it's possible it was federally funded.

[snacker]

20. Oh, puh---leese...

http://blog.preservationnation.org/2011/03/02/demonstrators-treating-historic-wisconsin-state-capitol-with-care-and-respect/

[Badfish]

22. If I am looking at the same building...

it only took 7 million to build the whole thing...and only 40,000 to clean the entire building in an acid wash.

1917
Construction of the third Madison Capitol is completed for a cost of $7.2 million. Dedication of the Capitol building is deferred due to World War I....1964
The Capitol is sandblasted and given an "acid bath" to clean the pollution stains from the granite exterior. However, the cleaning process damages some of the stone. The work is completed in 1965 for a cost of $41,000.


http://www.wisconsin.gov/state/capfacts/history.html

[Spike from MN]

23. Yeah, it's BS. The judge yesterday even stated that there was no damage.

Here's the text of the ruling yesterday (emphasis mine):

"Today, I have ruled in favor of the Plaintiffs concerning the issues before me on access to the State Capitol of Wisconsin. After three days of testimony, the record establishes that the recent protest was unprecedented of the history of the State of Wisconsin. Thousands of people peacefully protested for two weeks and no injuries or damage to personal or government property occurred.

I credit that to the restraint and discipline of the protesters. I further commend law enforcement supervisors and every individual policeman or policewoman for the discipline and restraint shown during these unusual times.

The Order that I will issue granting the Plaintiff's relief will contain what I consider to be a reasonable restraint on the time, place and manner of future demonstrations and protests. The restraint is as follows. Staying after the building is closed, is prohibited. Protests and demonstrations can be held at any time when the Capitol is open during normal business hours and, of course, if either house of the legislature is in session or any public hearing is being held.

I have attached a copy of a Notice requiring that you peaceably vacate the State Capitol after business hours today. My intent is to facilitate the reopening of the Capitol consistent with the free assembly and free speech provisions of the Wisconsin Constitution as well as the parallel provisions of the U.S. Constitution."

Link to a pic of the doc: http://yfrog.com/h4n2emtj


Aside from that, they used blue painter's tape to tape up the posters. There's no residue with that stuff.

[jefferson_dem]

26. That story is bullshit. See - "State officials back off Capitol damage claim"

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117409458.html

[snacker]

30. Thank you.

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
Isn't that how the rightwingers operate? Once they put out their talking points, they have their listeners convinced...sad, very sad.

[spanone]

24. must be some cheap ass marble if tape residue can destroy it

[AnneD]

25. Pulled from google...

How to Remove Adhesive Duct Tape From Marble
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Corey M. Mackenzie
Marble flooring, countertops, statues and other fixtures, although beautiful, do require special care when it comes to general cleaning or adhesive removal. Products that are safe for metal or wood are often unsuitable for marble and other natural stone fixtures. Acidic cleaners, even mild ones like white vinegar, can etch the stone. However, with a little patience and some other simple, common products, you can safely remove duct tape adhesive from marble -- no matter how tenaciously the tape clings.

Difficulty: Moderately Easy Instructions
things you'll need:
Protective Heavy Gloves

Razor Blade or Sharp Knife

Cotton Swabs

Rubbing Alcohol or Mineral Spirits


Get what you need for every
project at HomeDepot.com How to Remove Adhesive Duct Tape From Marble
1
Put on a pair of heavy leather work gloves to avoid cutting yourself and use a razor blade to lift up one corner of the duct tape.

2
Grasp the corner of the duct tape and pull it up and back to expose more of its adhesive surface.

3
Dip a cotton swab in mineral spirits or rubbing alcohol. Dab at the exposed edges of the duct tape. This will loosen the bond between the duct tape and the marble. Pull until you've removed all of the tape. You may need to swab more mineral spirits or alcohol on the sticky side of the tape as you do so.

4
Wipe a cloth dampened with rubbing alcohol or mineral spirits over the adhesive residue on the marble surface.

5
Remove remaining solvent by washing the area with a soapy sponge. Rinse off the marble with clean water and dry with a soft towel



Read more: How to Remove Adhesive Duct Tape From Marble | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5151369_remove-adhesive-duct-tape-marble.html#ixzz1FfCUaCCL


Democracy is not a beautiful building-but the sum of its people. Wisconsin's capitol has never looked more beautiful.

[sinkingfeeling]

27. Where do I send my bid to do the clean up? I bet I can do the whole thing, inside and out, for $1M.

[kentuck]

28. The truth is the first casualty of war.

We are at war.

[Contrary1]

32. Let me take a wild guess here:

Walker will have no trouble finding this $7.5 million bullshit estimate within Wisconsin's depleted budget to pay his buddies to do the work.

[Raksha]

35. That sounds inflated, but I think they should send the bill to the Koch brothers.

[Viking12]

36. State officials back off Capitol damage claim

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117409458.html?rememberMe=y

[Greybnk48]

37. Complete and utter bullshit.

This is starting to be entertaining. I can't wait to hear what they come up with next.

[catabryna]

38. When I was growing up, we had a marble dinner table...

and so did my grandparents. Those things survived everything from egg coloring to just about anything you could think of considering they went through lots of kids. What utter crap.

[AmandaMae]

39. I read somewhere they were using low adhesive painter's tape

I really doubt it would cost that much to clean up the bit of adhesive residue it would leave

[Motown_Johnny]

40. it sounds like the want to replace all that marble, instead of polishing it

I am no expert but I assume any damage caused by tape can be buffed out rather easily.

[DearAbby]

41. Hey Wisconsin GOOGLE HELOISE HOUSEHOLD HINTS

how to remove tape residue...Free
Supplies wont add up to 7.5 Million I can guarantee that

[Kurovski]

43. Housekeepers of America, rise up and speak the truth!

:D Heloise V. Repuke Goons.

[eilen]

42. What, do they want to replace the marble with Corian? nt