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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:53 PM
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What Walker is doing is not extortion, it's Coercion and is
against the law.

Coercion is the practice of forcing another party to behave in an involuntary manner (whether through action or inaction) by use of threats, rewards, or intimidation or some other form of pressure or force. Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in the desired way. Coercion may involve the actual infliction of physical pain/injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat. The threat of further harm may lead to the cooperation or obedience of the person being coerced. Torture is one of the most extreme examples of coercion i.e. severe pain is inflicted until the victim provides the desired information
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:54 PM
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1. This deserves reccing!
nt
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:55 PM
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2. Is there a legal distinction?
Does extortion have to involve the exchange of money?
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:14 PM
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3. Whatever - Call It What You Like - Coercion, Extortion, Blackmail......
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 04:15 PM by global1
whatever you call it - it smacks that it's against the law. So if it is against the law - what's the next move? Who does this get turned into? the Wisconsin State's Attorney? the Dept of Justice? Who?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:35 PM
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8. Wisconsin's attorney general is another party-above-duty Republican.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:16 PM
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4. Which law?
The Patriot Act makes it illegal for anyone to use coercion against any government official.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:22 PM
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6. Google is your friend..coercion and law
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 04:23 PM by shraby
<http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/coercion>

The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. The crime of intentionally and unlawfully restraining another's freedom by threatening to commit a crime, accusing the victim of a crime, disclosing any secret that would seriously impair the victim's reputation in the community, or by performing or refusing to perform an official action lawfully requested by the victim, or by causing an official to do so.

A defense asserted in a criminal prosecution that a person who committed a crime did not do so of his or her own free will, but only because the individual was compelled by another through the use of physical force or threat of immediate serious bodily injury or death.

In the laws governing wills, coercion is present when a testator is forced by another to make provisions in his or her will that he or she otherwise would not make if permitted to act according to free choice. It is an element of both duress and Undue Influence, two ways in which a testator is deprived of his or her free choice in making the will. If coercion is established in a proceeding to admit a will to probate, the document will be denied probate, thereby becoming void; and the property of the decedent will be distributed pursuant to the laws of Descent and Distribution.

Coercion, as an element of duress, is grounds for seeking the Rescission or cancellation of a contract or deed. When one party to an instrument is forced against his or her will to agree to its terms the document can be declared void by a court. A marriage may be annulled or a separation or Divorce granted on the grounds of coercion.

The coercion of small businesses by a cartel to fix prices of particular items supplied to them is a violation of antitrust laws, which are intended to prevent the restraint of competition in commerce. Laws regulating labor-management relations are violated by coercion when the employer coerces employees not to join a Labor Union or when a union representative pressures, uses physical force, or threatens an employee into joining the union.

Coercion is recognized as a defense in prosecutions for crimes other than murder. If an accused can establish that he or she committed a crime as a result of the coercion imposed by another the defendant will be acquitted on the charge as a Matter of Law. He or she will not be excused for the crime if there was only fear of minor physical injury, damage to reputation, or property loss. The person who coerces another to commit a crime is guilty of the crime committed. The coercer can also be prosecuted for the separate crime of coercion.

Coercion by law is the rendition of a judgment or a decree by a court, tax assessment board, or other Quasi-Judicial body for an amount of money presently due that mandates the sale of property owned by the defendant to pay the judgment.

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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:19 PM
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5. Against the Law
is fast becoming trite. If it is against the law take to court..can it be done or not?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:33 PM
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7. I'm wondering about the Republicans' withholding the Democrats' paychecks.
A group of senators who take it upon themselves to withhold paychecks from their colleagues due to disagreement, deviating from the usual procedure of direct deposit, should be an offense. If direct deposit is the rule, how can one set of senators legally put their hands on another set of senators' paychecks, preventing the lawmakers from being paid?

Is this a violation of labor laws? A type of negligence?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:40 PM
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9. I wouldn't think that could be done either..they are paid by the
taxpayer, not the Senate members. I would think the Treasurer would be the office responsible to see that the legislators are paid and how and when.
No members should have that ability. It's another form of coercion being perpetrated by one bunch of people against another.
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