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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:34 AM
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120 Years ago real close by, the poor set the tortured convicts free
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 12:45 AM by Tsiyu

You won't read about Coal Creek or Oliver Springs much or about the 2,000 scrappy men who took up arms against a brutal employer in the 1890's. But the offspring of those scrappy men are the reason I can suffer this little haven in the South. These people don't take any shit.

300 of the poorest of the poor, hungry and suffering themselves, took up arms and freed the forced convict laborers at the Briceville stockade of the Tennessee Coal Mining Company, and put them on a train to Knoxville. They would do this repeatedly, eventually even clothing them and feeding them before wishing them a safe journey and just letting them run, no train journey at all. There was a bounty on each convict of $85, so most were eventually caught, but none of those armed local men or their families would breath a word to give the freed convicts away.

Those armed locals could tell you about hearing the convicts' bloodcurdling screams as they were whipped for not doing their tasks correctly in the mines and at the coke ovens, and about seeing the leg bones of the ones who died from overwork, illness and abuse sticking out of shallow graves.

They could also tell you how, when the convicts were first brought in by train (eery, i know), the convicts' first task was to burn down the homes of the same local men who now freed them. The same local men whose jobs they were brought to replace.

The armed local men freed the convicts and burned the stockades that held them because the local men were hungry, and angry, and outraged, out of self interest but also out of pity for the convict labor that came and replaced their jobs.

They got mad. And they did it repeatedly until they got the attention of the Governor, though they were outmanned eventually.

But the progressive voters were on their side, and the next chance they got, outraged by the conditions these convicts and workers endured, the voters replaced the governor and the General Assembly revoked the convict labor leases.

But it took the threat of large scale violence before there was change.

Is this what we are waiting for now? Or can we do something besides wait for desperate people to do desperate things?



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So recently a poll indicated that 81% of Americans favored eliminating the profane tax cuts for the wealthiest, yet the House, through HR1, has absolutely ignored the will of the People.


81% of us want the wealthy to help this economy.


Why? Their tax increases will be a mere drip from a bottomless bucket for the affluent, a small sum which will in no way cause them to be without shelter, heat, food or access to education.

In fact, they will continue to be economically free to carry on their most nefarious endeavors, tax cut or not, but at least poor women can also continue to receive prenatal care and regular health screens. (And please don't whine about that one lost job floating around out there that a tax increase on the wealthy will destroy. That job is as imaginary as Gumby, unfortunately. That claim has always been.... well....bullshit. No offense to Gumby. )

In fact, at the rate the top % of hoarders are amassing $$$$ , they will never be without - even if we raised their taxes exorbitantly. But we don't even have to do that to make up this $61 billion the Republicans are bragging about.

And yet the people sit meekly in their homes even though the very weakest among us - the ones who WILL be denied heat and education and community health centers and senior services and the very essentials of life - are the ones being asked to give because the House is heartless, Dickensian, sadistic.

The "least of these" cannot give anymore. If we are truly compassionate people, we speak up for them, imagining our own mothers, our own children, our own kids trying to get through college or get some job training. They cannot give any more. Let me repeat: They cannot give any more.

We can all succeed and make our communities better when we have enough to eat and when kids have warm, safe places to sleep and seniors have decent health care. Communities flourish when people have education and jobs.

It's a trickle up world.

And it's time for the House to do the will of the American people rather than spending their time trying to derail Obama. Their games are going to cost people their lives.

Our House is playing games with people's lives, when the American people have clearly indicated this is not what they want.

The House is ignoring the will of 81% of the American people.

What are you going to do about it?


Do we wait til the poorest get so desperate they arm themselves and go against the corporations, or do we remind the House just whom the hell they were constitutionally elected to serve?












(CCRFN!!!!!!!!) ;)
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:51 AM
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1. Wow thats an amazing story. Thank you for the post!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:01 AM
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2. You're welcome n/t
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:13 AM
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3. Had to rush off for a minute


But wanted to add: call or write your congressperson, write a letter to the editor, stand up for the poor.

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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:47 PM
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12. Oh Yeah
That doesn't help anymore at least where I am. I think it will have to get really ugly b4 things turn around~
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:32 AM
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4. Recommended.
:kick:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:38 AM
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5. The Heidi Seal of Approval
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 01:39 AM by Tsiyu


is a fine thing indeed. :thumbsup:

Feel free to pass it anywhere and everywhere you think someone might be inspired to let Congress and Obama know where we stand.

And have a great weekend!

:fistbump:



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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:03 PM
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6. "But it took the threat of large scale violence before there was change."
And that is exactly what is building now.

By "progressives" and Dems ignoring poor people, and seeting up cuts to make their already painful lives impossible, they are raising the rage level, and it WILL explode.

What are you suggesting as a remedy? Organized protests? Teachins? Letter writing campaigns?

Your story is powerful, and we need to get this moving... NOW!

Thanks! :hug:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:02 PM
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14. Sorry so late responding


Farm chores and a job interview have kept me offline til now.

I think a concentrated letter-writing, phone-calling, get the word out blitz is called for.

I think people need to get mad or at least passionate enough about the cuts we are making to already strained programs, when it will not in any way strain our economy or the wealthy to roll back their Bush era tax cuts. And we need to examine the miltary budget. We cannot afford to be paying NASCAR when we have millions living on the streets.

It's what we want that matters, but we have to communicate it.

I think each person needs to write a letter, call, and if everyone does something, they can't say they only heard from Teabaggers and the Kochroach brothers on these issues.

They work for us and I am hoping more of us hold them accountable - and that would go for all three branches of government.


We don't need to go backwards


:fistbump:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:43 PM
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7. 81%, and yet somehow our voices are not heard.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:56 PM
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8. Its hard to hear people who are whispering.....
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:35 PM
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9. WE must not let these cuts destroy human lives, even if Obama likes them
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 02:38 PM by Dragonfli
There are many things that if cut would not harm life, There are also many methods of generating funds that are fair and sensible and yet our representatives choose death instead, why is that?
Why are there so few that vocally oppose taking out the ills of the country on the poor and elderly?
Why has our "progressive" president chosen to offer cuts of his own that are just as deadly as anything the GOP comes up with?

I am invisible because I have no money for food let alone campaign contributions, but even if I could contribute millions it has become evident that money from "regular" people never gets the ear of lawmakers, they choose instead to listen to the money of the corporations that have been given gifts rather than asked to contribute.

We are told that the only thing that is important is cutting the budget yet we spend record amounts on the military and TAX REFUNDS to the most lucrative of businesses.

We need to put aside puppy dog crushes on politicians that meet with multinationals behind closed doors while ignoring the large majority of citizens that realize that this fully engineered and planned "fiscal crisis" has as it's purpose the third worldification of this country.

My voice is weak from illness but many of you still could if you chose to fight as if lives depended on these cuts not being implemented, lives do depend on it and hero worship should not require you to pray before the sacrifice of blood placed on an alter in a ritual intended to cull the herd and enrich the insanely rich off the blood of it's victims.

You have a choice to make, choose life or corporate giveaways.
You should stand for nothing less than DEMANDING the rich pay their fair share before taking life to save what would amount to nearly nothing in this orgy for the rich budget deficit we are facing.

You are either human or you are not.
If you are human reawaken empathy and fight to save the lives of the innocent.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:07 PM
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10. "If you are human reawaken empathy and fight to save the lives of the innocent."
That says it all, doesn't it?

You have said it plainly... human lives just aren't a priority, and they will celebrate when we are gone, yet we are the supposed to work for issues of the environment, the right to have a union, and all the other stuff, and somehow forget that we are ignored and dying.

Something is VERY wrong.

Thank you for your eloquence. :hug:
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:53 PM
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17. +9,001
Speak it!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:12 PM
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30. I have been looking for this post


and did not realize I'd seen it on my own thread.




You are either human or you are not."



Dragonfli, I don't know what we call those morphed out of their humanness.

I wish they'd morph back.


And i hope you're feeling better
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:38 PM
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11. Everybody ask themselves: Which side are you on??
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 05:39 PM by maryf
TODAY?? Too much is happening that parallels the history here. The people need to join together...we need to remember an injury to one is an injury to all including the poor and the incarcerated. The poor are being far too injured by the egregious cuts...K&R
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:58 PM
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13. I KNOW which side I am on, and I will work at writing letters, and letters
all day tomorrow. I will not rest until we are all able to have a place at the table. I have now been officially pushed over the edge. I will not sit idly by and think it's "not too bad" any more.

NO MORE LIES!! We are not a broke country. When we stop sending pallets of money to war profiteers, then MAYBE we will start to get our priorities straight.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:10 PM
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15. Desperate people thank you


I think i look at this like a pre-emptive strike. Either we stop chiseling away at what few safety nets we provide here in this Land of Mediocrity, or we are going to face the same thing every nation faces with this much income/resource disparity.

I don't want to see people taking up arms out of hunger and frustration and the overwhelming sense of injustice that slave labor and prison labor engender. But if these cuts are passed, we will see this. Of that I have no doubt.

History is a great teacher.


Thank you so much, and I hope more and more people decide they've seen enough crap flying out of Congress' assorted pieholes.

Enough is enough.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:04 PM
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20. No... most people are fixated on what the middleclass is saying.
We poor folk are IGNORED.

As I keep saying, that is the REAL class war now.. the middleclass ignoring poor people.

And THAt is what is going to explode!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:50 PM
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18. You are wonderful! Thank you so much!
If everyone would get that passionate about this, we would be heard!

:hug:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:42 PM
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21. Great, and if you can get out your marching boots...
I'll see you in the streets too!! Any which way we can be heard!!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:11 PM
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16. Happy to rec.

Who represents THIS American majority?



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:54 PM
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24. Thank you


We must be the voice for the least of these.

The rich have the Teabaggers and Republicans, the unions and middle class have (some) of the Democrats, but the very poorest have few who will fight on their behalf.

And they can least afford this fight.

Thanks again
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:54 PM
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19. I had never heard about that (not surprising)
thanks for the post
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:57 PM
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25. I don't think "they" want you to know ; )


these stories get buried and forgotten, but they are very illustrative of how desperate people will become when hungry, and how change happens when groups work together for common ends.


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:41 AM
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27. Blair Mountain
BBC's Happiness Machine
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:46 PM
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22. !
:patriot:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:49 PM
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23. It would be nice if the unions decided to support POOR PEOPLE.
Is that possible?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:00 AM
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26. Thanks for the kick


Please encourage others to call, write and speak out about the cuts to the safety nets for the poorest of the poor.

Thanks again.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:10 AM
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28. The House is ignoring the will of 81% of the American people
And it feels like 80% of our own party is ignoring us too.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:38 PM
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29. call every dem leader you can


And tell them that!

We have to stand up and say it loud and clear.

They are turning their backs on the truth and we can't let them do that...

thanks for the kick
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:13 PM
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31. I have, for decades actually
I must need to follow up with $70,000 checks, it seems, cuz it hasn't workd out to well so far.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:24 PM
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34. CAll the "progressive" media.. they are the ones ignoring poor people.
It needs to start there.. wake up the media that is supposed to be a voice for US, and then it will be taken more seriously.

And thanks for writing our useless congresscritters! If we can wake up the media, then we can get MORE doing what you are doing, THEN it will have an effect!

:yourock: :pals:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:30 PM
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35. like sands in an hour glass



lol


drip drip drip

keep up the good work

NGU


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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:21 PM
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32. Sorry I missed this. kicking, wish I could have recommended. n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:24 PM
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33. I can proudly say that these brave folks were my relatives. Unfortunately,
so were many who died in the 'Briceville Mine Disaster' about a decade later, in Coal Creek (now Lake City). That's on my Dad's side... my Mom's side of the family hails from Harlan, Kentucky where they took on the Mining interests in the 1970's.

Solidarity!!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:44 PM
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36. Wow, that is a background to be proud of!
Sad, but brave people!

:patriot:

I have been to the Ludlow Memorial here in Colorado, and it is very, very stirring.....the pictures of Mother Jones, and the stories I have heard of her.... what a woman! :patriot: for her, too!
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