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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:46 AM
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So is the Ohio governor ready for those floods
Bet he needs unionized workers now
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:52 AM
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1. No
Disaster is just another way for them to grab more. He can contract all the clean up to non union corporations. It's about giving the State $ to the rich.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:20 AM
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11. Groups need to conduct oversight on it and get the info out about the high costs.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:52 AM
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:18 AM
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3. and when the volunteers are drained who is there to persevere?
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 10:23 AM by blm
Guess we don't need firefighters or garbage collectors, either, because so many volunteers are there to do their best so the wealthiest can enjoy their swelling bank accounts unattached to the everyday needs of the rest of the stater esidents.




How the rich soaked the rest of us

The astonishing story of the last few decades is a massive redistribution of wealth, as the rich have shifted the tax burden

EXCERPT...

Instead, a rather vicious cycle has been at work for years. Reduced taxes on the rich leave them with more money to influence politicians and politics. Their influence wins them further tax reductions, which gives them still more money to put to political use. When the loss of tax revenue from the rich worsens already strained government budgets, the rich press politicians to cut public services and government jobs and not even debate a return to the higher taxes the rich used to pay. So it goes – from Washington, to Wisconsin, to New York City.

SNIP...

Several examples show this. First, a good part of the money the rich save from taxes is then lent by them to the government (in the form of buying US Treasury securities for their personal investment portfolios). It would obviously be better for the government to tax the rich to maintain its expenditures, and thereby avoid deficits and debts. Then the government would not need to tax the rest of us to pay interest on those debts to the rich.

Second, the richest Americans take the money they save from taxes and invest big parts of it in China, India and elsewhere. That often produces more jobs over there, fewer jobs here, and more imports of goods produced abroad. US dollars flow out to pay for those imports and so accumulate in the hands of foreign banks and foreign governments. They, in turn, lend from that wealth to the US government because it does not tax our rich, and so we get taxed to pay for the interest Washington has to give those foreign banks and governments. The largest single recipient of such interest payments today is the People's Republic of China.

Third, the richest Americans take the money they don't pay in taxes and invest it in hedge funds and with stockbrokers to make profitable investments. These days, that often means speculating in oil and food, which drives up their prices, undermines economic recovery for the mass of Americans, and produces acute suffering around the globe. Those hedge funds and brokers likewise use part of the money rich people save from taxes to speculate in the US stock markets. That has recently driven stock prices higher: hence, the stock market recovery. And that mostly helps – you guessed it – the richest Americans who own most of the stocks.

CONTINUED...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011...
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:47 AM
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4. Are you serious?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:49 AM
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5. you think all the firefighters and police work for free?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:50 AM
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6. You are wrong.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:56 AM
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:00 AM
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there you go again herman, 'most' and 'many' are not facts. provide some.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:00 AM
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8. People generally did their own cleanups of their own property
HOWEVER--Halliburton and other no-bid contracts made BILLIONS off of this disaster. Your ASSumption that the volunteers even altered the money that these contracts generated by one red cent is either naive or misled.

Did you also read about all of the volunteers that were NOT allowed to help??Why do you think THAT was?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:18 AM
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10. I bet all the little freepers helped too!!
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:15 AM
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9. it used to be the Natl. Guard that helped with disasters like floods
nt
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:57 AM
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12. exactly...
but, um, aren't all our Nat. guards over in Afganistan now?


(which is also interesting to keep in mind for when we have a general strike... no nat guard to keep the proles in line, and police & fire will most likely be on our side of the street... food for thought)
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