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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:19 PM Original message |
What the hell is wrong with making deals? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. "You get seven wishes", he said. |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. You know |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. You might be surprised to learn that Rush and I use thousands of the same words |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. No |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. said it before and will say again, every compromise was surrender and invited new demands. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. deal making |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #65 |
77. Heh. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Tell that to the republicans when they're in power. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Blah blah blah... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. I think you misunderstand. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So we can be as ruthless and ugly and WRONG as they are? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. No, were supposed to make deals with the ruthless, ugly, wrong people. |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. What? |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #62 |
81. Two more years of what caused the whole mess in the first place |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. Seems to be effective. |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
76. Exactly. |
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Lisa D (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Republican politicians have the mentality of children |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Well said... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Wrong. They compromise too. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. Republicans from 2000-2006 compromised, significantly? Show me. |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Crickets... n/t |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Many on DU don't understand that when you demand all or nothing deals |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yep... unless you are a despot... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. There's deals and there's deals! |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's an after effect of BushCo, IMO. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Exactly right... |
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Crystal Clarity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. Exactly JuniperLea. Good point. |
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Lisa D (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Kick Ass Post |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. The rule in deal making is to NOT tell the other side everything you're willing to give up |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Ummm... that actually IS deal making... |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. You've never haggled at a market in the Middle East have you? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. What's that got to do with the price of turnips in January? |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. The one side tells you the asking price |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. The part before the big "but" is pretty much what happened here... |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. not quite |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. exactly |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. Bingo. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. and you are privy to this information in what way? |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. And you are assuming ... |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Well maybe they are mad at a system that allows one person |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. What deal did B*sh make to go to war in Iraq? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. That's nonsense... |
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Lisa D (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Why does the OP have to go away? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. The surrounding circumstances have plenty to do with it |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. If you recall |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Public Option was just too important. Obama should have gave them |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. And you know this, because ... |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. What do you think it would have taken? |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. There was absolutely nothing ... |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. I've remained fairly optimistic towards negotiating deals... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. You're right... |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. But we don't know what the "deal" was |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. I love a deal |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
19. There Is Nothing.... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
20. There is no pat answer, making a deal can be good, bad or neutral. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. I agree |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. An observation on the republikan game plan |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. Thanks for the post randr |
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Kweli4Real (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
67. Very well stated ... n/t |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. Indeed, governing is deal-making |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Nice goal post moving you got going there... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. So what have you seen exchanged for stuff that should have/could have been pro forma? |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. You mention shelves, stick pens, clown noses, and plucking pigeons in your post... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
32. Highly recommended. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
36. In the words of Robert F. Kennedy: |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Good stuff |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. +1. n/t |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Obama is a cold-hearted intellectual, as opposed to the empathic kind as RFK. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 01:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
75. That quote is one reason why Bobby Kennedy is one of my favorite politicians |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
79. Excellent post. n/t |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
46. Making a deal under adverse conditions is one thing, |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. It accomplishes something! Most it seems are happier with nothing as long as one shouts angrily |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
52. It all depends on the quality of the deal. It is a means to an end, not an end. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. Its phony outrage meant to to be a diversion from any success Obama and Dems achieve. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Giving billions to billionaires is a fundamental betrayal of Democratic principles. |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
82. "Phony" outrage? Please define the difference between phony outrage and real |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. Nothing. But caving in on basic principles is what is wrong. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
66. As if Lee had a choice. |
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Elmore Furth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
68. I agree with the necessity of 'making deals' |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
69. Giving away your daughter for only one goat -- deal making. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's fine, when your side actually comes out of it with something. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-10 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
80. Nothing |
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