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Sat Mar-05-11 03:26 PM
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God damn it, just cut the fucking wars and cut the bloated, graft ridden |
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defense budget...
Your dick will still be there in the end and the world will be a better place...
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:28 PM
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1. I think it's so sad that when we watch the talking heads on CNN, et. al., they |
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are constantly talking about how we have to balance the deficit but there is NEVER any mention or consideration of those two things you mention. They act as if it's not even there, it doesn't exist so it's not the problem.
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:29 PM
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3. There is so much graft and skimming going on that they would have |
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to build new federal prisons to handle the new inmates if they ever decided to crack down...
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:58 PM
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10. You got that right. I saw some piece of crap called the Kudlow Report |
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yesterday and the theme was that unions can bankrupt the country. Really? Seriously? Do they mean that spending five billion a week in Afghanistan and whatever billions per week in Iraq, plus keeping 1000 military bases going around the world, and shoveling mega billions down the Pentagon craphole won't bankrupt the country? Bull. Shit.
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:28 PM
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2. Never happen, too many war profiteers in business and gov. It would be a dream |
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come true, but this country is infested with the MIC, and we spread it around the world making profits. Too much profit comes from their fucking wars.
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:32 PM
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4. Shhhhhhht. Das Ist Verboten! |
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Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 03:33 PM by somone
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:34 PM
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5. Note how the powers that be shifted the main topic for JOBS to THE DEFICIT |
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and yet somehow they've managed to steer clear of allowing it to be called "the Bush Deficit" or even talk about ending the wars or tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations? This, right after eight years where Cheney said "deficits don't matter?"
The Democrats could EASILY grind the GOP into dust with all of this ammo, but they choose not to. Why? All it would take is a few choice words from the POTUS.
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:37 PM
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6. That boggles my mind... |
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They are, quite simply, more concerned about currying favor with the money people than actually governing...
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Sun Mar-06-11 09:27 AM
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"The Democrats could EASILY grind the GOP into dust with all of this ammo, but they choose not to. Why? All it would take is a few choice words from the POTUS."
He could but it's far more important to meet with Jeb Bush. You know, bipartisanship, cooperation and stuff.
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Sun Mar-06-11 11:57 AM
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34. Bipartisanship is important when you're ramming through Wall Street's agenda |
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but helping the American people or the rest of the planet? Not so much.
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:40 PM
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7. are you filling in for the Rude Pundit? |
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:47 PM
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8. Naw, just pissed off and getting more and more angry and starting |
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to believe that talk is cheap while campaigning but actions are what we should always be looking at.
I spent a long time in the trenches, the best earning years of my life wasted trying to get these ass hats elected and this is what my generation produces...
We had the greatest generation, the lost generation and now the what's in it for me generation.
It's sad and that's why I am so pissed.
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:02 PM
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13. Talk always has been cheap - almost worthless. That's why a picture |
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is worth a thousand words and actions speak louder than words.
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:38 PM
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19. except there has been a big draw-down in Iraq |
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Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 04:38 PM by hfojvt
and the shift to Afghanistan was promised.
For myself, I do not see how the war in Afghanistan can be quickly ended. Except just by giving up, and I do not want to do that.
I appreciate your effort. I think we would be better off if more Democrats had won in 2010, even if Raj and Stephene had won, and I was/am not that fond of Raj.
I was an Edwards supporter and thought Obama was marginally better than Hillary. Now it sure seems that margin was very, very thin, and it also seems that there is not a damn thing we can do about it. Other than this :banghead:
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:42 PM
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21. Well, but we are still there... |
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I'm really more concerned about the 11 carrier groups we have floating around protecting the sea lanes for the International trade while we foot the bill...
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:47 PM
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22. The Afghanistan war, being unwinnable, is a dream come true |
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for the military industrial complex. Their blood-soaked profits stretch into infinity. And you see, that's why it's so important to shift as many US jobs as possible overseas, and to keep those remaining here at minimum wage with no health insurance. Also to outlaw abortion and close down any outfit which might promote birth control. That way we proles keep reproducing another generation of Americans who are driven to "volunteer" for military service for lack of any better opportunities at home.
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Sat Mar-05-11 07:23 PM
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25. Troops have been replaced by mercenaries in Iraq and Afpakistan is an unwinnable moneypit |
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Evasions, misdirection, and pure on nonsense.
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Sat Mar-05-11 03:52 PM
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9. Why should they?..... when they can cut education? |
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I tell you right now, with me, that Jeb Bush bullshit took me over the edge.
I don't care how one tries to spin it
They can't.
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:00 PM
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11. that's what got me today.... |
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He was never my first choice, I never believed he was seasoned enough to deal with the veterans of hardball politics that dominate DC...
Being state senator puts you in a special place that doesn't prepare you for the job of POTUS.
And let's be frank, he was running for president since he gave the speech at the 04 convention. He didn't pay enough attention to how things work in DC while he was off campaigning.
I have respect for him for what he accomplished in his political career but his governing leaves me wondering what all the buzz was.
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:15 PM
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14. Yes, I wanted Dennis and then even Sen. Gravel |
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because he knew what bullshit it was.
I went to Edwards.... but always thought he was a poz and opportunist..... Clinton? no way
Obama..... Ok.... here is my money and time for change, I can believe in.
I didn't even get much change out of my money. Maybe 30cents on the dollar.
I think someone could take that line and expound on it.
Being a teacher, a union organizer, a community organizer I thought he was the same.
Sorry tonight DU... I've stayed out the attacks
Republicans..... yes I hate them, but I hate those that think they have something to offer and then give them what they want.
I need my billion dollar tax break so I can get some change.
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Sun Mar-06-11 09:30 AM
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to spin it. Right here on the DU there are so many excuses for meeting with Jeb Bush, not to mention meeting with the other right wing pigs.
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:01 PM
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12. Sorry. Viable solutions are off the table. n/t |
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:19 PM
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16. No we would rather piss on each other over a thousand or two a year, |
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let billionaires hoard as much money as possible, and continue to kill brown people overseas. It's the "american way".
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:28 PM
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17. Plainly said, and how much I agree. |
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I've thought this so many times, and it's so damn frustrating that they don't or won't hear us.
Thank you!
Recommended.
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:35 PM
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18. George Carlin once referred to our wars as "The Bigger Dick Foreign Policy" |
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What? The have bigger dicks? Bomb them!!!
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Sat Mar-05-11 04:38 PM
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20. That dick might go missing once the defense dept. gets through with ya. |
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It's not just the corporations that control our gov't, let's not forget the other half of the military industrial complex.
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Sat Mar-05-11 05:16 PM
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23. our military spending equals the rest of the world combined! |
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Sat Mar-05-11 07:10 PM
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24. all we are really doing is subsidizing the rest of the world to make |
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it safe for international commerce.
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Sat Mar-05-11 07:27 PM
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26. Yep, but this never even enters the debate. We have to Big War Inc Parties. |
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Shame on the Dems, shame on the repukes, shame on Obama.
End the wars.
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Sat Mar-05-11 07:54 PM
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27. What a simple and effective plan. |
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Sun Mar-06-11 12:21 AM
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29. And quit sending PALLETS of unaccounted money to war |
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profiteers all over the globe. Heard the woman who wrote "One Nation, Under Contract" (Stanger?) and it put me over the edge. She was on the Daily Show. Even Stewart was non-plused. WTF have we come to? (Don't answer, I know, a country with the most screwed up priorities )
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Sun Mar-06-11 09:32 AM
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The things that our politicians don't want to be saddled with is the human carnage they have caused by these wars.
Notably, there is probably a significant majority of National Guard who have been deployed that have lost their jobs stateside. When they return, THEY will be added to the unemployment rolls as well as possibly other social services.
The soldiers, airmen, marines that have been stop-lossed into the military will also fall into the unemployment figures and most will require some type of social services as well. Never mind the healthcare needs of these people. You will also face another BRAC realignment--ammunitions factories will shut down, etc.
This war is propping up their numbers for election. Never mind the human cost of them--they could care less. There is an election coming up!:puke:
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Sun Mar-06-11 09:41 AM
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33. Actually, are dicks that big really all that useful? |
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Sun Mar-06-11 12:07 PM
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35. The rich are using the wars to make more money. |
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