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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:43 AM
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Its hard to wrap your head around it. You have to roll it around in your brain.
The Democrats are in power as the nation contemplates reductions in Social Security, worker's rights, and the American standard of living. The Democrats are in league with the Republicans in this rush to the bottom.

I do not see this ending well for the average person.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:46 AM
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1. Given the performance of the Democrats since Clinton I find this totally unsurprising..
Clinton signed NAFTA and welfare "reform" both of which have turned out to be disasters for the most vulnerable Americans.

Why should we expect any different from Obama?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:53 AM
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4. I seem to recall Obama R2007 running as far away from "the Clintons" as possible.
I recall his ardent supporters assuring us he was *no* Clinton.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:07 PM
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9. Chomsky says Obama was long been friendly to the financial institutions
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 12:07 PM by HereSince1628
and that nothing this administration is doing should be seen as a change in Obama's positions.

We, just got all Hopey, and forgot the basics of understanding politicians and celebrities...

Their public persona is a marketing program. When they choose an adjective they can in fact mean it's near opposite. They often bring these descriptors up because they need to distract from their histories.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:49 AM
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2. You guys don't get it. This is n-dimensional chess:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:07 PM
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N as in eNd game?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:52 AM
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3. A=B n/t
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:00 AM
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5. They're working for who got them into office.
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 11:00 AM by theaocp
They appreciated the grassroots support, but we don't support their campaigns. Corporations do. Obama wants to get reelected and so will work for those who contribute to him. We don't count.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:10 AM
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6. What does that say about those ordinary people who so ardently support him?
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:37 AM
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7. They are
1. filled with hope
2. ignorant
3. closeted conservatives
4. all the above
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:38 AM
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8. There will be no Democratic party after this is done.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:16 PM
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12. That was the DLC's objective all along. Destroy liberalism-the foundation of
the Democratic party- by pushing the party further and further to the Right using GOP trolls and financial backers (like the Koch Brothers). I never would have guessed how quickly they would succeed.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:17 PM
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13. +10000
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:07 PM
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10. And, the majority of Americans disagree with them
Just like on Tax cuts for the rich. Our country is ruled by the 1%'ers. So long as they can convince enough people to vote against their interests, and/or also give people no real choices in elections, this will continue. Look at next year, we get a choice between Obama (who seems intent on being Reagan II) and some t-bag approved nutjob. Some choice.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:08 PM
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11. I think a re-evaluation of the concept of 'power', what comprises power, and who currently holds it
might be in order.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:18 PM
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14. Only Nixon could go to China.
Only the "Democrats" can destroy Social Security & Medicare,
and good little party apparatchiks will cheer as they do so.



Who represents THIS American majority?

"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."


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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:18 PM
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15. The corporatists are in league together...
and many of them are from the democratic party.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:22 PM
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16. in spite of the the kabuki of the clintion and obama admins, the republicans have been in power
1980. the avg american has brought on himself by voting for republicans pretty consistently since then.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:47 PM
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20. No, the average American VOTED FOR CHANGE, and we DESERVE CHANGE
We gave the Dems a very clear mandate, and they pissed it away with spinelessness and collusion with the GOP. The American people voted in good faith, and were completely betrayed.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:49 PM
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17. .
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:50 PM
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18. It means we are going to lose in 2012.
And the moderates will blame us then too, just like last year when they lost us the House with their childish behavior RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION. I would call them stupid, but hey people make mistakes all the time.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:45 PM
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19. No mistake about it. They didn't want to keep the majority; it gave them no alibi
If even one branch of government is under GOP control it gives the Dems permission to play the victim, while doing back door deals with the same fat cats who power the GOP.
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