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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:23 PM
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The Hillary Doctrine
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 03:25 PM by Beacool


In a time of momentous change in the world, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton sets out on her most heartfelt mission: to put women and girls at the forefront of the new world order.

by Gayle Tzemach Lemmon
March 06, 2011

Hillary Clinton seemed to be in a rare moment of repose while the Middle East erupted. She’d just returned from a surprise trip to Yemen and now sat for 30 minutes against a blue backdrop in the State Department’s Washington broadcast studio as reports streamed in of Libya’s violent crackdown on its own people.

But Clinton was far from a passive observer. She was in energetic discussion on the Egyptian news site Masrawy.com, where her presence excited a stream of questions—more than 6,500 in three days—from young people across Egypt. “We hope,” she said, “that as Egypt looks at its own future, it takes advantage of all of the people’s talents”—Clinton shorthand for including women. She had an immediate answer when a number of questioners suggested that her persistent references to women’s rights constituted American meddling in Egyptian affairs: “If a country doesn’t recognize minority rights and human rights, including women’s rights, you will not have the kind of stability and prosperity that is possible.”

The Web chat was only one of dozens of personal exchanges Clinton has committed to during the three months since Tunisia’s unrest set off a political explosion whose end is not yet in sight. At every step, she has worked to connect the Middle East’s hunger for a new way forward with her categorical imperative: the empowerment of women. Her campaign has begun to resonate in unlikely places. In the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh, where women cannot travel without male permission or drive a car, a grandson of the Kingdom’s founding monarch (Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz al-Saud) last month denounced the way women are “economically and socially marginalized” in Arab countries.

“I believe that the rights of women and girls is the unfinished business of the 21st century,” Clinton recently told NEWSWEEK during another rare moment relaxing on a couch in the comfortable sitting room of her offices on the State Department’s seventh floor, her legs propped up in front of her. “We see women and girls across the world who are oppressed and violated and demeaned and degraded and denied so much of what they are entitled to as our fellow human beings.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/03/06/the-hillary-doctrine.html


The shelter Clinton referred to is run by the Cambodian activist Somaly Mam, who herself was forced into a brothel as a little girl. Mam credits Clinton’s visit with making her work rescuing young victims respectable in the eyes of her government. “She protects our lives,” Mam says simply, noting that during her visit Clinton took the time to talk with the girls and that many of the shelter’s children now keep photos of her on their walls. “Our people never paid attention. Hillary has opened their eyes, so now they have no choice; by her work she has saved many lives in Cambodia—our government is changing.”

This brought tears to my eyes. If in many parts of the world things are bad for everybody, they are far worse for girls and women.

Thank you, Hillary. Thank you for forging ahead and thank you for caring.

:-)
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:30 PM
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1. Hasn't she always cared?
She has been so good for this country and particularly for the feminist causes. I am so proud to have supported her candidacy in 2008, and I am proud of her work as Secretary of State. She is such an asset!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:40 PM
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2. Yes, she has cared since she was a teenager in Park Ridge, IL
Much credit can be given to her youth minister, Don Jones. He made a point of taking the children of her upper middle class neighborhood to Chicago to show them how other children lived. He even took them to hear MLK speak. It had a major impact on Hillary and it changed her. She could have had a very comfortable life as a Republican hausfrau, instead she became a Democrat and a child of the 60s.

Hillary didn't change, the public's perception of her has softened in the last few years.

;)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:44 PM
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4. Does your pride in Clinton's stewardship of State include:
WikiLeaks Reveals State Department Pushed Diplomats to Spy

http://www.thenation.com/article/156716/wikileaks-reveals-state-department-pushed-diplomats-spy

I find it appalling.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:28 PM
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8. Raw meat for those who have no idea how State works.
The intelligence agencies always send their wish lists, most diplomats just ignore them. The fact that many of these cables have her name on them doesn't mean much either. It is customary for cables to have the SOS' name as a signature when the SOS is in DC. The SOS sees very few of these cables (that goes for any SOS).

Also, the revelations of Wikileaks regarding the State Dept. show that diplomats give unvarnished advice. So what? It is the same for most countries and it does not necessarily set policy.

;-)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:52 PM
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10. Nice apology.

Long live Empire.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:06 PM
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13. It is not an apology.
It is an explanation.

;-)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:08 PM
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14. More like an excuse.

It's tough idolizing people.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:14 PM
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17. on the other hand, i have yet to see a prominent democrat you don't loathe.
:shrug:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:17 PM
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19. Prominent.
Got it.

Quite the metric.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:54 PM
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11. Diplomats have been spies for as long as diplomacy has existed.
That's simple reality. Every other country operates the same way.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:52 PM
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23. Oh, well, then that's okay then.
We should never stop doing stupidass shit since we have been doing stupidass shit for so fucking long!!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:35 PM
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28. You're right. We should unilaterally become a pacifist commune living in wigwams.
Or, just maybe, we could actually deal with the world as it is, rather than expect to instantly transform it into a paradise where people ride unicorns and shit gold.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:31 PM
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29. Well, I never said I wanted to shit gold.
But, I do want one of those unicorns that does!!


We aren't supposed to be transforming the world into anything . . at all.
We don't own the fucking world.

Show me in the Constitution where it says we are the ones responsible for setting up dictators and creating banana republics.
You can't, because it ain't there!

This is American exceptionalism at it's worst!!
Manifest Destiny on steroids!

Go read Graham Greene's "Quiet American" and see how far before the Vietnam War started that he predicted that war. 1955!!

Christ, we will never learn.
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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:05 PM
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24. Grasping at straws
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:43 PM
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3. That was wonderful. Thanks for sharing the link.


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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:11 PM
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15. You're welcome!!
:hi:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:45 PM
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5. She's doing a great job. I never doubted she would raise the
standards no matter where she ended up.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:50 PM
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6. That's my Hill! She is such a hero in my eyes.
Did ya'll see that horrible meeting before a congressional committee, I don't know which one, where the female congresscritter wouldn't let Hillary answer a question? Honestly, she should never go to one of those again; but, I suppose she would be highly criticized if she didn't. Hillary laughed at her mostly, as she was interrupted time and time again and not allowed to answer questions put to her. Hillary's charm and grace under fire is a sight to see. You go girl! That congress critter should be impeached or something for being extremely rude to the Secretary of State. Who the hell does she think she is? If any of you saw this, please give me the critter's name so I can look her up.
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:23 PM
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7. I saw a few minutes of that...
I don't know who was presiding, but she was very brusque and rude to the Sec. of State. I don't remember Dem. chairs presiding behaving like that. It was a woman, but can't name her.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:01 PM
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12. It probably was this woman.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (R) poses with House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen,R-FL, before testifying to the committee on assessing US foreign policy priorities and needs March 1, 2011 in the Rayburn House Office building on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC.

She's the chairman of the committee. Hillary had no choice but to go. She was there to convince these retrogrades not to cut the State Department's budget. Hillary has a lot of experience being under attack, a Congress critter from FL is not going to rattle her cage.

:D
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:27 PM
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30. It was the House Foreign Relations committee - led by a reactionary Fl Congresswomen
She was Ilena Ros-Lehtinen and here is her web site, http://ros-lehtinen.house.gov/ I don't think that rudeness to a SoS is an impeachable offense and it shouldn't be. (Would you have wanted the right charging Barbara Boxer for what they could term rudeness to Condi Rice?

As this committee - and the its Senate counterpart - have oversight responsibility, she will appear before them again.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:32 PM
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9. I can't help but smile
:D

Keep doing this job in these strange times, Sec. Clinton.


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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:14 PM
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21. Hi, PBS!!
What's cooking?

:hi:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:30 AM
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31. you know that incorrigible cad?
;)
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:12 AM
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32. LOL
Sadly (for her) yes.

:P
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 02:18 PM
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33. Yep, I know more than one "cad"...........
:evilgrin:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:13 PM
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16. Hillary's looking well. hey Bea, i got something for ya...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:11 PM
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20. Banky!!!
:woohoo:


Thank you!!

:pals:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:17 PM
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18. Hillary Rodham Clinton is my hero!
She may not be perfect but she is a hell of a lot better than most. I like her much more than I like Bill. Hill is no Bill and never has been!

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:28 PM
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26. I like the Big Dawg, even though sometimes I felt like wringing his neck.
But Hillary is something special.

Remember when Obama said that he and Bill had something in common, that their wives were far more impressive than they were? Well, I agree with him.

:D
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:35 PM
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27. I'm not blind to her "warts" and
still adore her.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:49 PM
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22. Thank you.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:25 PM
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25. Hi, Emily.
You're most welcome.

:hi:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 02:29 PM
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34. I actually agree that womens rights is an issue that needs work.
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 02:31 PM by RandomThoughts
There is an inequality there in the system that does not make sense. It is understandable, but only from the perspective of wanting an inequity around that issue by some that have issues.

I actually have postulated that some of the advantages women have with skills in many areas, and the simple fact that men like women, explain some of the inequality.

Sorta a fear from some men that if they give women equal power, they wont be able to control them, and some need control since nobody would like them other wise :rofl:

I find that really funny, and in some way, another great reason to get women equal economic and political say in things, if not for justice, then for the sheer humor of it, when women don't think some 'status' or 'pay' is a quality to be admired and instead they themselves have equal opportunity for those situations.

There are many economic and social factors that disenfranchise women.

And I am still due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:31 PM
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35. You are giving the perspective of a western man.
Hillary is going to countries where girls and women are denied an education. Where girls are married off at such an early age that they haven't even gotten their first period. Where women can be stoned to death for being raped. Where poor families sell their children into prostitution. Where rape is used as a weapon of war. The list goes on and on.

Get the picture?

:(
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