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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:21 PM
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OK, so what did Schumer do to Coburn et al. to get them to do a 180
on the 9/11 responders bill?

I know there was a compromise on the money and length of time the bill would cover, but I'm assuming Schumer knew all along what his bottom line was gonna be and started out high.

And no, I don't think public opinion mattered one damn bit to Coburn...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:24 PM
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1. I hope he had photos of live boys or dead girls and that they somehow -- oops --
just manage to slip out by accident anyway. That's how much I hate those vermin.

But you make a good point - that he probably started out high. Knowing how to play the game.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:28 PM
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4. Could be it was the last card he had to play to get it done.
He said he was told by Steny Hoyer to get that bill done in the Senate because the House is gonna be gone by the end of tomorrow...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:27 PM
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2. Whatever he did ......said.... it worked.....but...I bet pragmatism was in play....
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:27 PM
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3. I think that FOX hitting congress over the weekend actually had a huge impact
Shep Smith was furious last week after watching Jon Stewarts show with the 911 responders and was going off on congress while talking with Chris Wallace. Fox's newstaff picked up the ball and hit a lot of Rep's hard over the weekend and fanned the flames. I think that they realized that they had to find a compromise or face the public backlash.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:30 PM
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5. Probably told him the GOP would no longer own 9/11
Nor would they ever be able to use it again.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:38 PM
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6. Yep. And I think now that Jon Stewart had a bigger impact than I did when I first saw it.
Those responders were so down to earth. They are the real deal and lots of younger voters watch the show.

I hope the pukes saw their dominion over all things 9/11 just slip away...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 04:46 PM
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7. Yes,
That episode was probably one of Jon Stewart's best as far as impact it had.

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:13 PM
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8. Interesting...shows the way, don't you think?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:31 PM
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9. They stripped out provisions to pay for the bill which involved closing tax loopholes
Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 07:33 PM by librechik
for foreign corporations.

Don't know if they put in some other means to pay for it.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:40 PM
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10. Can you document this, please? I'd love to see this....and how do you know this?
I'd love to have a link...thanks...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:53 PM
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11. Thom Hartmann mentioned it on his radio show, but I haven't had time
to source it. maybe later. gotta make fedex now.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-10 07:54 PM
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12. Coburn made a fool of himself by saying that
there was no hearings. The public humiliation must have got to him.
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