I'm Frightened - Truly Frightened - I Just Listened To RW Hate Radio For 22 Minutes....

[global1]

I was just driving home from my girlfriends house and it's a 22 minute drive door to door from her house to mine. I was scanning the radio channels and came across this right wing hate radio program and thought I'd be open minded and listen to what the other side was saying. What I heard in that 22 minutes was truly frightening.

The program was that of a guy called Billy Cunningham. He calls himself 'a great american'. His guest was a guy called (I think) Wayne Allen Root or Wade Allen Root - I didn't quite get the name.

For the 22 minutes - sans a commercial or two - these two guys railed against the Unions, Dems, Liberals, Barack Hussein Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Their voices were at a frenetic level and at a machine gun pace.

They ranted on the Unions and that Union Pension is a 'ponzi scheme' (ala Bernie Madoff).

That Obama after being elected told the SEIU that they were the reason he got elected.

That Barack Hussein Obama worships the devil (that is lucifer himself).

That the recession would have been over in a year (run its course) except for the policies of Obama, Pelosi and Reid that kept it going.

That these left wing radical liberals want to destroy America and Obama is deliberately destroying America.

That the rising oil prices are Obama's fault because he's ignoring the problems in the MidEast and won't allow oil companies to drill.

That radical Muslims will take over those countries in the MidEast and we'll be really screwed.

That for sure that the left wing radical liberals want to lay the blame on BushCo and the oil companies but we (Cunningham & Root) won't let them get away with that - we know who the real enemy is.

They even put in a good word for Huckabee's mis-speaking that Obama was raised in Kenya and chastised the leftist press for keeping this a news story for the last week. (Tweety was on the Huckster all week - I'm sure that's who they were referring to.)

Interesting that Cunningham said that Obama will be re-elected in 2012.

His analysis went something like this: because he will get 95% of the black vote which would account for about 10 or 11% of total vote; 85% of the hispanic vote which would account for another 10% or 11% of the total vote; near 100% of the union vote and loyal liberal dems which would account for another 22% of the total vote which added up would be around 44% of the total vote and all he would need to get is another 6% of all the rest of the voters which he would do handily.

He went on to say that when Obama wins a second term and not be subject to another term or vote and that he would then unleash his fury and go on to finish destroying America.

I was thinking when I heard this that the RW is already making excuses for not winning in 2012.

Cunningham closed the segment saying "For warned is for armed".

The callers that called in spoke of themselves as being patriots. They said that they have to protect America and take it back.

This is truly scary stuff. I can imagine that the 'sheeple' that listen to these things go into a total frightened shock. I would have loved to have someone challenge these guys - but that never happens and the 'sheeple' always only hear one side of the story.

How do you counteract this crap? And all of this only transpired in 22 minutes of time. These 'sheeple' listen to the likes of this crap all day with Fox, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Bachmann, Palin, Gingrich, and on and on and on.

I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight as I am truly scared - BUT - not the same scared that the 'sheeple' that believe this crap are. I am freaked out because there are people on the radio that spew this hate and 'people/sheeple' all over this country that believe that this is the gospel truth. Heaven help us.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Ah you got a dose

Trust me Savage is worst...Levine is a tad less obvious and papa bear almost sounds rational. Why I have said before...we are on our way to a hot civil war. It can still be avoided, but there are days I wonder if it is too late.

[Hannah Bell]

5. you predicted that in egypt too. your prediction record isn't good. please stop

predicting & stick to color commentary.

[Common Sense Party]

8. You just can't see the trends.

You can't connect the dots if you're not on Twitter.













Or something like that.

[cali]

13. +1

[demmiblue]

24. +1

[pecwae]

25. Good post.

Perhaps your good advice will be heeded.

[global1]

9. One Of The Things I Left Out Of This 22 Minute Hate Spew Was Their Reference To Saul Alinsky......

and his book "Rules for Radicals". Root went on about how this is Obama's favorite book and that Alinsky dedicated this book to Lucifer. This was when Cunningham made reference to Obama being the devil.

I've since did a quick internet search for Alinsky and his book and quite frankly I'm not sure how to interpret it. I don't know who is writing the analysis of Alinsky's book and I can't be sure were the bias lies.

My initial gut reaction is that many of the critique's of this book are written by RW damning Alinsky's writings and saying that Obama worships Alinsky and is practicing Alinsky's rules and tactics. I'm believing that they are vilifying Alinsky and Obama yet they are themselves embracing the same rules and tactics to turn it around on Alinsky and Obama and the have-nots.

I would appreciate anyone here commenting on Alinsky and whether he is a good guy or a bad guy. Help un-confuse me.

[jtuck004]

12. Alinsky was an "effective" organizer.

Whether he was good or bad depended on which side of his organizing you were on.

If you remember the novel "The Jungle" about the conditions in the meatpacking area of Chicago and the desperate
plight of the people who lived there, think about organizing those people (a few years later) into a group
which could seize power from the rich and wealthy people who controlled their lives.

Alinsky did that organizing. He was very good at it, and injected a sense of humor into many of his actions. His organizations are still around today, though what they have grown into I do not know.

He also pointed out that once people seize power it is likely they will become just like the people they replaced. When someone suggested that it would not make things better, Alinsky said he saw it as an opportunity for continued work.

Personally I think a lot of progressives\liberals\socialists and others would do well to learn from Mr. Alinsky (and others)if
they want to win against their opponents. Because, as you noted, their opponents are reading and studying this to their own advantage.

[surrealAmerican]

23. It kind of makes you want to read the book...

... doesn't it?

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. Alinsky was effective at what he did

that scares rightties.

[cordelia]

42. Levin is a raging loon.

Freak sounds like he's been sucking on helium, and is every bit as hateful and despicable as Savage. Voice gets more and more shrill the more agitated he becomes.

I fear he's going to have a stroke on air one day.

[Kablooie]

48. We've got a ton of Marats, but they support the aristocracy.

And each has a louder megaphone than Marat ever did.

Oh where is Charlotte Corday when you need her?

[struggle4progress]

2. Wayne Allyn Root

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Allyn_Root

[LAGC]

14. How telling that the Libertarian Party of Florida repudiated him.

Whats with all these conservatives pretending to be Libertarians?

[TheWraith]

3. Certain elements on the right wing are looking for a pogrom.

I'm not sure you could call it a civil war, exactly, but a lot of them would like nothing better than to start widespread violence: against liberals, against Muslims, against hispanics, blacks, and others. They think their white "Christian" nation as being under threat from all these "others," and they have to fight for it.

How to counteract it? First part of that is Obama's job, by making sure that their nonsense doesn't find traction outside of their fringe base. It's true that ~20-30% of the country is fucking crazy enough to believe this shit, but there's another ~20-30% who's dumb enough to believe whatever they're told if Obama slips up and gives the right traction to push their crap.

The second part is simply staring them down. Don't let them get away with things. Counter them in the public square, debunk their propaganda, and push back on their lies. That helps stop it from spreading, but it doesn't fix that core group who's fucking nuts.

Can we get rid of them? I don't know. They've been here a long time, all the way back really, whether they called themselves the Tea Party, or the militia movement, or the John Birch Society. And yes, they're dangerous, more so lately than ever before. There's been at least a dozen incidences of right wing political violence I can think of in the last few years. I for one practice wary self defense, and watch them. Unless I'm willing to start shooting first, which I'm not, it's all I can do.

[Zoeisright]

4. I don't know why they're allowed to say those things on the radio.

That is sedition and inciting violence.

[handmade34]

7. Ronald Reagan ended the

Fairness Doctrine in the 80's

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0212-03.htm

[AndyTiedye]

11. It is Their Intention to Incite Violence

Of course, they deny all responsibility when the violence they are inciting actually happens.

[Enthusiast]

32. They would welcome the violence.

This is a near replay of early 1930s Germany.

[reggie the dog]

53. But with radio reaching more people, more often

and with propaganda techniques which are more refined...

[Enthusiast]

68. Yes.

Corporations and their government 'employees' are waging the greatest propaganda effort in history. How effective is it? It is so effective that its victims believe they are being subjected to a 'liberal media'.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. But they do

fairness doctrine died a long time ago. They do regularly and why do you think we all realize where this is going?

[reggie the dog]

55. why do you think I am living in the European Union

I will come back to the usa on vacation, but always have my french passport with if i need to flee to canada and get a flight back to france due to the usa degenerating into civil war. the response to the flood after hurricane katrina was an example of mostly white republicans in dc choosing not to do anything to help a majority democratic and black city and then watch other republicans rebuild in a way which shifts the city to be republican voting and more white than before due to a shift in demographics one has to wonder if the hot conflict has not already started and is on simmer mode.

[handmade34]

6. even more troubling...

I travel the US for my job... these right wing hate stations are on everywhere! (but only rarely a reasonable liberal station can be found) I do not listen to the car radio as a rule but traveling from state to state I check it out( no XM or Sirius)... wherever I go (and I have worked in all 48 states sans AK and HI) I invariably come across numerous Christian talk stations and numerous right wing (always very unpleasant) stations. It is very, very troubling...

[necso]

10. This stuff has been going on for decades,

poisoning people's minds the whole time. The wrong-wing media is a powerful means of governance (influence, control) that has been used ruthlessly and without a thought for the harm done.

Plus, there's a ocean of this crap, with astonishingly-high top-salaries for those sleaze-merchants who can crank up the hatred and fear really high, so they try really hard.

And, judging by the tv, some of the "Christian" broadcasting isn't any better.

Despicable. Treasonous.

[meegbear]

15. I googled Wayne Allen Root ...

http://www.rootforamerica.com/

Libertarian VP candidate in 2008 and fucktard extraordinarie.

[The Straight Story]

16. Bill hails from 700 wlw in Cincy -here is his pic and video ranting about unions:

He's a little nutty :)

http://www.700wlw.com/pages/onair_willie.html

Here's his pic:

[mod mom]

30. McCain had to apologize after a Cunningham introduction in '08:

but note neither McCain or now Senator Rob Portman, did at the time:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/mccain-repudiates-hussein-obama-remarks/

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

54. What an ugly asshole

Looks like the typical right-wing dipshit who probably has some creepy hidden fetish.

[Tsiyu]

56. Now THERE'S a face for radio

no doubt. :puke:

hate-filled pus-bag is what you call these cretins.

They abuse the public trust whenever we allow them to use our airwaves.

How is Cunningham's spewed bile "in the public interest?" How is his hate-filled screed helping the citizens in Cinncinati or wherever he broadcasts?

The FCC is useless, when it allows this drivel to be broadcast 24/7, no debate, no alternate info, just hate and more hate and a little more hate spewed at and about citizens who own these airwaves!

Cunningham doesn't own shit. He's using YOUR and MY airwaves to spread hate and disinformation and our laws allow this... when do we call on the FCC to do their job?

[RagAss]

62. That face will scare a bulldog off the back of fucking meat truck !

[OneGrassRoot]

17. Now, imagine this same daily spew from Limbaugh, fed to the troops...

I believe it's very dangerous.

Many don't like petitions, feeling they encroach on First Amendment rights, but I believe Limbaugh and the others distort, flat out lie, and are treasonous as it pertains to President Obama.

I don't believe this type of hate speech should be on military airwaves, regardless of whether it's coming from the left or right, whether the president is a Democrat or Republican.

If you agree, please sign this petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/remove-rush-limbaugh-from-armed-forces-radio#?opt_new=t&opt_fb=t


Thank you. :)

[get the red out]

27. Especially since large militia organizations recruit them

There was an expose a while back about a large, rather quiet militia organization that recruits not only ex-military but current, active duty military people in order to prepare to fight against our government. I believe it was some former aid to Ron Paul who was heading this up. Rush on military radio can only aid this treasonous cause.

[OneGrassRoot]

29. Word. n/t

[StarsInHerHair]

64. I think of Gaddafi hiring mercenary thugs whenever this is brought up,

since the Libyans rose up to overthrow their dictator. I've been loosely following what's happening there, & the army said Gaddafi has been defunding the offical Libyan armed forrces since he used them to grab power. The army says it has tanks that barely work, guns that are at least a decade old........compare & contrast that with Blackwater-pardon me, their Chinese name Xe, versus OUR military.......& by Chinese I mean the Chinese Government NOT the people, who obviously WANT liberty.

[Enthusiast]

33. Oops, I already signed.

:hi:

[reformist2]

18. All you can do is ask people to listen to other points of view also, like a jury member might.

Of course, most won't do it. But at least you can remind them that they might want to hear the other side out once in a while. Appeal to their sense of fairness, if they have any left.

[Lastactiongyro]

19. Rwanda had the same thing happen.

They ended up with genocide.

[reggie the dog]

57. the radio of a thousand hills?

radio mille collines..

where the charasmatic leader went on the radio and talked about all the fun it was to get high with people on their local weed and man checkpoints and "get rid of cocaroaches". fucking sickening. we are too damn close in the usa. i never understood why some people are so hell bent on killing others.

[boppers]

20. Simple question:

"Do you believe in god."

Those who hesitate know about grey areas, and complexity.

[sendero]

21. This shit has been going on for decades..

... and you folks wonder why we lost the war.

Americans believe this crap because they NEVER EVEN HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY.

And why is that? Well, the experts will tell you that progressive talk radio does not get and retain an audience. That would imply that everyone thinks like these dicks but I don't believe that for a second.

One does wonder about this one thing though - just how bad does it have to get before the average slug American wakes up and realizes that "tax cuts for the rich" DO NOT create a vibrant economy and that Republican economic policies, not unions who have been on their knees for 20 years now, are the cause of our current malaise.

[Enthusiast]

34. That was the goal when they

got rid of the Fairness Doctrine.

"Americans believe this crap because they NEVER EVEN HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY."

[CrispyQ]

49. A damned good question here:

"just how bad does it have to get before the average slug American wakes up and realizes that "tax cuts for the rich" DO NOT create a vibrant economy and that Republican economic policies, not unions who have been on their knees for 20 years now, are the cause of our current malaise."

[StarsInHerHair]

65. WE need Liberals with money willing to fund a Liberal/Liberty network

even if it's not breaking even, much less making money. UNTIL THAT TIME THE TRUTH IS GAGGED & BOUND. Either our side learns the importance of pooling resources or we fade out.

[piniella]

22. THIS WILL MAKE IT WORSE

On Sunday, Feb. 13th, Cunningham had on as guests Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell, Speaker of the House Boehner and Rep. Mike Pence (R-IND. Normal people think Cunningham is a freak show but leading GOP politicians don't.

[stuntcat]

40. damn

..

[kentuck]

26. They have to be called out.

Their followers have to hear the truth.

[SmileyRose]

28. Heh Bill Cunningham (aka Willie)

I remember back before he was on the radio he sued himself for the tax writeoffs.

[Enthusiast]

31. K&R! This is typical of

Reich Wing commentary. These people are absolutely horrible.

[MrMickeysMom]

35. The Sheeple listening have an attention span of about 20 min's...

... before it time for reality tv or finding the next person to blame for their ignorance.

This message is one I've been dipping into (much like red neck snuf) over the course of years. Every time I listen (and it doesn't even take 20 minutes) I get the next version of excuses as to why these people are so isolated in their own stupidity.

But, they buy Gold Bond Powder for their stinky ass feet, so the bills for their slop are paid.

Buy a sticker for DU for your car, and if you're really that curious to "counteract", then call the sponsor and tell them you are boycotting their product.

You can sleep better knowing that ignorance is alive and well in the 21st century, and stupid is forever.

[spanone]

36. that kind of bullshit is going on 24/7 in the good ol usa

[Marr]

37. They're cowards at heart, and the vast majority won't ever

take it beyond psychotic ranting, so long as they're convinced that they would suffer consequences of some sort. If they think they're the majority, or that their authority figures will back them up, they'll certainly get violent-- probably against someone who is completely helpless (handicapped, a child, someone very old or small, etc.).


Bob Altemeyer's book The Authoritarians describes the mindset very well using sociological research, and it isn't a flattering picture at all.

[bluestate10]

44. They are cowards, but don't take their threats lightly.

They will try to take over the country if allowed to. What they don't realize is that the majority of americans are not with them and if pushed, will fight and kill them. I see hate bumper stickers on cars, most big trucks also, but I see more liberal oriented bumper stickers being driven around, I also see that the overwhelming number of drivers chose not to have bumper stickers at all. So let the haters hate, but if that hate turn to wide spread attacks on society, they will be vanquished very fast.

[KurtNYC]

38. this is why iPods were invented -- RADIO SUCKS n/t

[RandomThoughts]

39. They need to learn about label trap.

Many people charge a label with the opposite of what it means, or use a label to paint some organization opposite of what it is.

Until people learn how Orwellian concepts in marketing, like loading macros, and using labels against people, they are susceptible to that label trap.


For instance they invoke bad names, because people have attached thoughts about those bad names. They do not actually explain what is bad about some group, and what is good, they instead try to slap a loaded label on it.

Within most teachings, both good and bad can appear as beautiful light, one is real, one is not. Although you should not follow that which is not of better spirits, you should try to be kind to people under that type of oppression, while trying to explain your point of view.

So a person has to think and feel based on the concepts a group supports, and to some effect how they have effects on things. Although intent is actually more of a determiner then effect (women that gave 2cents gave more then all the others)

So when they say some group is evil, they have to explain why they think that, what they are doing that they claim is more evil then what they do. Then "plank in own eye" comes into effect.

Then people can think on how many things can be better, by also knowing how they can help improve things.

Honestly if people learn how they are charging, and using charged words to manipulate people, they will see them as casters, and how they are getting people to not know what is going on by using Orwellian tactics.

Explain to people how label trap is used against them.

[stuntcat]

41. yah

not too random that!

[global1]

45. No Disrespect - But I Don't Understand What You're Trying To Get Across Here........nt

[zinnisking]

66. Good God Man, Don't Anger It.

Do what I do in situations like this;

Nod your head in agreement, and slowly back out of the room.

Above all else, do not make eye contact!

[bluestate10]

43. Get angry instead of scared. Your reaction is the very one that too

many progressives take. Face unhinged hate and you become afraid for the future instead of becoming resoundingly pissed off. The teabagger morons want to take back the country from evils imagined in their heads and which don't exist. We must get just as made and even more focused and fight them every step of the way through the 2012 election. We have both right and true patriotism on our side, let's fight like we know that.

[bullwinkle428]

46. Thom Hartmann has debates with W.A. Root on his show regularly -

Thom always cuts him to ribbons, and leaves thrashing around in his own pathos, but for some reason, the guy keeps returning!

[Historic NY]

47. See they all fired up & ready to go......vote.

[jimlup]

52. These people are seriously F'd up

But then we already knew that.

[Tsiyu]

58. Everyone in Cincinnati (sp?)

who is in the audience of this turd should contact the FCC. If this station is like so many, it runs Rush and Beck and Hannity etc ALL DAY LONG. This is not in the public interest.

You have the right to hear what's going on in your community on YOUR AIRWAVES and not just accept being force fed right wing hate speech.

Lodge complaints, (and people should do this in every city where right wing crap has taken over the AM virtually everywhere.) They are not living up to their licensing agreements. Call them on it.

Make the FCC earn its keep, or else we can cut it completely out of the budget as it is a useless commission.

[readmoreoften]

59. Par for the course.

[Liberal_in_LA]

60. I use to listen to RW radio periodically. It's so out of control that i no longer listen.

[felix_numinous]

61. The more demonstrations there are

the more frantic RW radio will get to try to drown it out. They will just get crazier. I have to hand it to you, I cannot listen to them at all.

I wanted to add: Fear is what they want, so we should not give it to them. I agree with the above poster that anger is better. It is better for standing our ground which is what we need to do now.

[chill_wind]

63. RW hate radio has been like this for years and years. Really it has.

I often wondered in the Clinton years if he would make it all the way thru his last term.
They hated both of the Clintons on a visceral level that's impossible to forget. When they weren't screaming on the radio, they were deep in the woods holing up and drilling, to fight all the Clinton minions that were coming for them in black helicopters to put them in all the hidden concentration camps when TEOTWAWKI and New World Order arrived and civilization promptly collapsed. These breeds never get any new material. They just adapt it to fit a running narrative, dictated by a whole lot of hopelessly loose wires in their heads.

Obama will finish his term (or two). Then they'll get their next great neofascist hope installed, whom they'll be bitterly disappointed in, then we'll install our next lessor evil and they'll still be ranting all this same crap. For ANOTHER 50 years.

[upi402]

67. They ARE radicalized now

They succeeded, but the victory will be pyhrric.

[old mark]

69. K&R- OP, you should read some of the shit they post online...

Over last year's election, there were many people saying they made notes of homes that displayed Democratic campaign signs...so that they could come back later when the RW revolution started and kill everyone in those homes..."while they were standing around wringing their hands..."

You have to understand there are a lot of people who take this shit very seriously and some really are making preperations for an armed conflict to kill the "liberals"...along with anyone else they don't like.

They were really outraged when a black man won the presidential election, and have no intention of getting over it.

You can not really argue with them or counter them, as they have no basis in reality at all...it is all delusional thinking.


(I can only look at that stuff about the "radical Leftist Democrats" and the "Leftist press" and wish it were true...)

mark