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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:55 AM
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Men Without Women (Ominous)
Niall Ferguson – Sun Mar 6, 10:43 pm ET
NEW YORK – According to the United Nations there are far more men on the planet than women. The gender gap is especially pronounced in Asia. In this week’s Newsweek Niall Ferguson looks at the ominous rise of a bachelor generation.
In 1927, Ernest Hemingway published a collection of short stories titled Men Without Women. Today, less than a century later, it sums up the predicament of a rising proportion of mankind.
According to the United Nations, there are far more men than women on the planet. The gender gap is especially pronounced in Asia, where there are 100 million more guys than girls. This may come as a surprise to people in the Western world, where women outnumber men because—other things being equal—the mortality rate for women is lower than for men in all age groups. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen calls it the mystery of Asia’s “missing women.”

In China today, according to American Enterprise Institute demographer Nicholas Eberstadt, there are about 123 male children for every 100 females up to the age of 4, a far higher imbalance than 50 years ago, when the figure was 106. In Jiangxi, Guangdong, Hainan, and Anhui provinces, baby boys outnumber baby girls by 30 percent or more. This means that by the time today’s Chinese newborns reach adulthood, there will be a chronic shortage of potential spouses. According to the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, one in five young men will be brideless. Within the age group 20 to 39, there will be 22 million more men than women. Imagine 10 cities the size of Houston populated exclusively by young males.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/12761_worldwidegendergapmeansmorebachelorsinasia


The question left open by economists is what the consequences will be of such a large surplus of young men. History offers a disquieting answer. According to the German scholar Gunnar Heinsohn, European imperial expansion after 1500 was the result of a male “youth bulge.” Japan’s imperial expansion after 1914 was the result of a similar youth bulge, Heinsohn argues. During the Cold War, it was youth-bulge countries—Algeria, El Salvador, and Lebanon—that saw the worst civil wars and revolutions. Heinsohn has also linked the recent rise of Islamist extremism in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan to an Islamic youth bulge. Political scientists Valerie Hudson and Andrea den Boer warn that China and India could be the next countries to overdose on testosterone.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:59 AM
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1. Mystery?! It's hardly a mystery.
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 09:00 AM by reformist2
I thought that everybody knew that infanticide of baby girls was a huge problem in China.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:59 AM
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2. And here I thought this was going to be about the Spike and the Eagle. Nt
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:18 AM
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15. It's raining men. nt
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:00 AM
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3. Not to worry, there will be plenty of wars to even things out. n/t
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:10 AM
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4. That's the point
And wars involving the 2 largest countries on earth (even if not against each other) are unlikely to leave us unaffected.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:12 AM
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5. If anyone thinks a Chinese mother is going to send her only son off to war
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 09:12 AM by AngryAmish
then you have not met a lot of Chinese mothers.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:13 AM
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6. She will when "national pride" is at stake
And I haven't met too many Chinese men in their 20's who still live with their mommas....
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:43 AM
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8. How are they different than any other mothers?
Young men go to war all the time and some of them have no siblings. Anyway, what control does she have over it? If the state says "go," they're going.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:14 AM
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12. I don't imagine most mothers are happy with the thought of sending
any of their children off to possibly die or be maimed.

That's why mass mobilization usually goes hand in hand with mass conscription.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:23 AM
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17. I'm sure they can withstand the tyrants.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:27 AM
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18. The entire modern history of mankind says otherwise.
Chinese folks are no more noble or rational than the rest of us.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:22 AM
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7. lookie what happens killing off female fetus and babies. didnt really think it thru. nt
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:15 AM
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13. Perhaps it was tolerated at the top levels
to achieve exactly this result.

/bordering on conspiracy theory I know, but it would make sense if the long term goal was militarist expansion to promote male over female offspring for a generation.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:59 AM
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9. My daughter is from China - there are nights
when I can't sleep and I start worrying that because of the male/female imbalance in China that we will suddenly get a notice that the Chinese have retroactively revoked our adoption and want her back and the US says sure, not a problem, you can have her.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:07 AM
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10. 22 million+ for a war with india over natural resourses
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:15 AM
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14. And to patrol the border with North Korea
when that nightmare finally collapses.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:13 AM
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11. Wasn't there an article recently about China boosting it's military budget
by some large percentage (I forget the exact details but it was substantial)?

Seems their leaders paid attention in history class as well.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:22 AM
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16. They'd then better speed up that whole "men giving birth" thing. "100 million more guys than girls"
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 10:25 AM by WinkyDink
is such childish, unprofessional language.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:46 AM
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19. More Viagra, anyone?
:eyes:
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