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Badfish (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:23 PM Original message |
Supreme Court ruling on indefinite detention. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. anyone with sufficient power can do it-- we call that tyranny.... |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Pedophiles cannot be cured. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Overall, about 6.5% of sex offenders reoffend within 5 years. |
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Badfish (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Where does that leave you ? |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Of Pedophiles? I'm for it. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Here's a habitual offender - arrested 20 times and convicted 14 times |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I'm thinking sex offenders, you're on a different page. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. No, we're on the same page. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Well, hopefully not idiots, and someone who knows the difference between violent crime... |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Sure, hopefully. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. We have this cool thing to draw the line called "law". |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The question, is as a society, how do we make the sentences |
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Badfish (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Ya , a weird question. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Agree. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I understand the slippery slope thing... |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I agree that the offenders you are referring to may not be rehabiliatable. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 02:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. If objective reality concorded with your claims then perhaps. |
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classof56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Good point. |
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AKDavy (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I'm always amazed at how people can make excuses for denying |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I was thinking more along the lines of statistically, but whatever. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Permament incarceration would elimate all data on recidivism |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Good point... |
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AKDavy (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Maybe another category of "Too dangerous to release" with... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. +1 |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. The ones with good intentions can do far more damage |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Nor can homosexuality. So your point is? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. This case isn't about all sex offenders. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I am not arguing "This case". I am questioning specific wrongly held... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Ah. The OP was not about those unlikely to re-offend. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. So, because I don't agree with you I'm a freeper? |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. No because of the WAY you don't agree with me. |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. OK...I'm going to do exactly what you want me to. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. Good to see that the Constitution only applies to those you deem it should. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. I support the right of detainees to challenge their detention |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
18. The difference is those people got a trial... |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'm not against indefinite detention in all cases. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
31. "Discuss:" |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
32. The state cannot do it unless there has been a trial... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
35. Because it usurps the rule of law and due process our Constitution was based upon. |
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VoteProgressive (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
36. It seems unfair that after serving your sentence you can still be locked up! |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. The decision is a distortion. You are in effect moving the goalposts after the game. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. It can't be cruel and unusual punishment, since the punishment of life in detention is valid. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. It would certainly be cruel and unusual for jay walking. |
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