Coffee is a drug with bad side effects

[conspirator]

And this is the only drug allowed legal status by your corporate overloads.
The reason being is that it makes workers more efficient robots at the expense of their own health.
The effects of coffee in your nervous system are slow to kick in.
I am not gonna tell you what the effects are. Do your own research.
Of course nobody lives forever, it's your choice.

[kenny blankenship]

1. Could you give us a hint?

[nebenaube]

72. teenage abuse shrinks the hypothalamus...

or so wikipedia says...

[tekisui]

2. What about alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceuticals?

[Dorian Gray]

60. Hush!

You don't want to hurt his brain!

[xchrom]

3. huh? nt

[Solomon]

4. Please tell us. I drink coffee everyday and I'd like to know.

No joke.

[KittyWampus]

12. Depletes adrenals, dehydrates body, kills intestinal flora. Any antioxidants found in coffee

can be gotten via fruit and veggies that also contain vitamins, minerals and fiber.

[cali]

31. coffee is no where near as bad as much of the other crap in the

average american diet- soft drinks, sugary and fatty foods, chemical additives, etc.

[KittyWampus]

33. So ingesting something that is overall bad for you is negated by the existence of other crap?

The Standard American Diet sucks.

And coffee is part of that.

[cali]

37. uh no. I didn't say that. I'm suggesting that coffee in moderation

(a cup or 2 a day) is not a problem, particularly if the rest of your diet is reasonably healthy. duh.

[Dorian Gray]

61. There are pros and cons

to coffee. Anything in moderation is fine. I drink a cup a day, and I've had no ill health effects. You can make up for the dehydrating effect by drinking more water!

[nebenaube]

73. absolutely... rather have some high chromium h20?

Face it, there is more in the environment that will kill you other than pot, cigarettes, cigars, coffee, booze, coke, etc... If you run in or near traffic, live near industrial activity or almost anywhere else something will get to you; be it elevated background radiation from fallout, contaminated food/water from antibiotics, pesticides born in the cells of the plants we consume; the pesticides we spray on them, radon gas in our showers, fracking waste, bp spill, corexit, stress, fear, financial woes, yada, yada....

[joeunderdog]

75. Actually, far from BAD for you. According to WebMD...

Coffee drinking decreases chances of getting Diabetes, Parkinson's, Dementia, certain Cancers, strokes and "much more good news than bad" for coffee drinkers.

Make it an Uber-grande.

[TransitJohn]

5. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking coffee.

[Dorian Gray]

63. LOL

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!


(I just referenced that quote this morning to a friend, so this is a perfect thread!)

[lib2DaBone]

6. Let's arrest all coffee drinkers.. load up the jails and court system...

:silly:

[HappyMe]

70. Yes, immediately!

But what about the childrens? :silly:

[virtualobserver]

7. my favorite side effect of coffee....

is the lower incidence of colon cancer for its drinkers.

[Sal Minella]

53. Some studies have shown lower incidence of breast cancer in

coffee drinkers, and comparatively less onset of Alzheimer's, so I'll need more than somebody's grumbling to be convinced, here.

[xmas74]

76. What a great side effect.

I kinda like that too, considering my grandmother passed on from colon cancer at far too young an age.

[Webster Green]

8. It has good side effects. It's good for the heart.

It's not the only legal drug either. Booze is legal. :wtf:

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[myrna minx]

10. "Hello Marge, how are you? - I don't want to talk about it."

:shrug:

[Callalily]

11. Here's an interesting article!

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/health/5-health-reasons-to-not-quit-coffee-2460820/

[Karia]

13. Some GOOD side effects

Coffee consumption cuts your risk of dying from breast cancer or colon cancer.
Coffee cuts your risk of getting Type 2 diabetes.
Coffee cuts your risk of having a stroke.

Interestingly, the initial studies were done under the assumption that coffee was bad. Researchers expected to find evidence that coffee consumption was bad for us and were shocked to get results showing the opposite.

[FLPanhandle]

14. Corporate overloads are drugging us with coffee to make us more efficient workers?

Now I've heard it all. :eyes:

Maybe you want to research the long history of caffeine drink throughout human history. (a little hint: it predates corporations by a lot).

[KittyWampus]

16. It's only relatively recently that it's available so cheaply and easily and globally.

[FLPanhandle]

18. So has rice and meat and wheat and....

All agricultural products have due to mechanization, fertilizers, better transportation. So what?

The silliness is the whole "corporations are drugging us to work harder" idea.

[KittyWampus]

20. grains and meat of one kind or other have been globally available throughout our evolution.

And coffee, like alcohol, are indeed made cheaply available to keep the drones going and/or medicated.

Civilization has seen those in authority doling out one kind of drug or diversion throughout history to keep the masses under control. It's not a novel concept or even a strange fact.

[FLPanhandle]

23. LOL

Maybe out there in conspiracy land this makes sense. :rofl:

Human beings like the effects of caffeine and alcohol period. In fact, governments that have tried to restrict access to either have met with solid opposition.

You don't understand human nature. However, thanks for the morning chuckle.

[KittyWampus]

24. Alcohol was widely available in the old world. Coffee was not. And nothing you said negates

anything I said.

Coffee requires subsidization to be available globally so cheaply. It only grows in certain areas.

[cali]

28. that's because coffee wasn't even introduced into the old world until

relatively recently.

[KittyWampus]

30. no kidding. That's what I wrote.

[eilen]

41. As does tea

which enjoyed global popularity for centuries. (and also contains caffiene).

[FLPanhandle]

50. Neither was corn, chocolate, tomatoes, potatoes, or any other new world agriculture

Where's your conspiracy theory around those? :rofl:

A little clue for you, all agricultural products are grown in certain areas. All agricultural products are now more available to everyone globally easier and cheaper than ever. That isn't a conspiracy, it's modern agriculture and transportation.

[sarge43]

69. Coffee was readily available in the Middle East for at least 1500 years.

The Qur'an specifically prohibits coffee, along with alcohol. It was written in the early 7th century CE.

Coffee was introduced into Europe early 17th century. Coffee houses sprung up almost immediately.

[verges]

48. Including the USA... nt

[Buzz Clik]

32. I am a robot working for an overload.

[madmax]

15. It is ...

until it isn't.

All this bullpucky about what is good or not drives me nuts.

This month is will be one thing a few months later another 'study' says opposite. It's about getting money to study bullshit.

Listen to my Mom who died at 92 and lived by this.

'Everything in moderation, get 8 hours of rest, even if you don't sleep the entire 8 hours, fresh food when possible, stay away from doctors - they always find 'something' and then they try to kill you.'

Miss you Mom. Everything, I mean everything you taught me has come to pass - you were so smart and I was too stubborn.

[sarge43]

17. "....the only drug allowed legal status ..."

You been out of circulation for awhile?

[GKirk]

19. Feeling too silly

to come back and respond to comments?

[Rebubula]

21. LOL...

....sounds like someone needs to switch to Decaf.


Is that you, Charlie Sheen???

[Botany]

22. Thanx for reminding me .... I gotta go and grind some beans

[cali]

25. hit and run op. say something provocative and split.

[Buzz Clik]

26. Whoa. That is so ominous. And it is the only drug allowed legal status by our corporate overloads.

Can I grow up to be a corporate overload?

[Dappleganger]

27. Well by your definition so is sex...

and I need both to live. ;)

[LaurenG]

29. There was a study out just last week about the healthful antioxidants in

coffee, there are some great protective health benefits in it too.

I've done my research and I'm with the person up-thread - everything in moderation.


Here are two recent articles for your enjoyment:


http://gothamist.com/2011/03/03/news_you_can_use_drinking_coffee_is.php#

Edited for missing article: A search will help you find The Kentucky Post - Mar 03 03:56am article.

[BanzaiBonnie]

35. A little bit of coffee on occasion...

helps me breathe easier ~ asthma relief.

[Arkansas Granny]

34. There are some interesting good side effects, also. It kind of balances things out.

Newer studies have also shown that coffee may have benefits, such as protecting against Parkinson's disease, type 2 diabetes and liver cancer. And it has a high content of antioxidants. But this doesn't mean you should disregard the old maxim "Everything in moderation." Although coffee may not be very harmful, other beverages such as milk and juice contain nutrients that coffee does not. Also, keep in mind that coffee accompaniments such as cream and sugar add fat and calories to your diet. Finally, heavy caffeine use — on the order of four to seven cups of coffee a day — can cause problems such as restlessness, anxiety, irritability and sleeplessness, particularly in susceptible individuals.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/coffee-and-health/AN01354

A growing body of research shows that coffee drinkers, compared to nondrinkers, are:

less likely to have type 2 diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and dementia
have fewer cases of certain cancers, heart rhythm problems, and strokes
“There is certainly much more good news than bad news, in terms of coffee and health,” says Frank Hu, MD, MPH, PhD, nutrition and epidemiology professor at the Harvard School of Public Health.

But (you knew there would be a “but,” didn’t you?) coffee isn't proven to prevent those conditions.

Researchers don't ask people to drink or skip coffee for science's sake. Instead, they ask them about their coffee habits. Those studies can't show cause and effect. It's possible that coffee drinkers have other advantages, such as better diets, more exercise, or protective genes.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/coffee-new-health-food

[Shagbark Hickory]

36. + freakin 1. Bunch of addicts lined up there at starbucks paying $2+ for a cup of liquid crack. nt

[Romulox]

38. Ummm, cigarettes? Booze?

" this is the only drug allowed legal status by your corporate overloads."

Fact check!

[Amaril]

39. Disgruntled ex-barista? n/t

[Enthusiast]

40. OMG!

I'm fucked! I just had five mugs of black fresh roasted.

[The Straight Story]

42. Ban it in bars, save the world

:rofl:

[NillaWafers]

43. I gave up coffee 6 months ago. Don't miss it a bit. n/t

[Oilwellian]

44. Hmmm

[dionysus]

45. woo woo.

[seabeyond]

46. ha hahaha. k. conspirator. nt

[Yo_Mama]

47. Haw, haw, haw!

My doctor PRESCRIBED coffee.

Studies on coffee have shown that consumption correlates negatively with Type II and various forms of cancer. Plus, I love it.

Is it good for you if you eat a bad quality diet? I don't know - a lot of Americans eat a diet high in processed foods, and thus high in sugars and fats. But if you eat a healthy diet, I think for most people coffee is healthy. It is high in anti-oxidants, and the apparent protective factor against cancers is probably due to that. Both tea and coffee have some good effects.

I am also at a high risk for stroke because of an infection I have of the brain, and coffee seems to have anti-inflammatory effects inside the blood vessels.

[rucky]

49. Sometimes threads like this deserve a rec

just for shits and giggles.

[malaise]

51. Thank you corporate overlords

Just had my second cup of blue mountain. :evilgrin:

[sinkingfeeling]

52. Thanks. Now sit and have a cup of coffee with me.

[Sal Minella]

55. Thanks. I'll go get some cookies, and BRB. n/t

[SOS]

54. Relax

Coffee and Life Expectancy

"A study was conducted of over 84,000 U.S. women and over 41,000 U.S. men from the early 1980s to 2004. The study recorded people’s coffee drinking habits and their long-term health and life expectancy. They found that drinking coffee (up to six cups a day) did not impact the life expectancy of the over 125,000 people in the study."

Some of us crazy addicts drink coffee simply because we like it.

And if corporate overlords were in charge of drug policy, wouldn't alcohol be illegal and cocaine legal?

[zinnisking]

56. Corporate Overloads = Toilet Paper Industry?

I have long suspected that coffee and toilet paper manufacturers were in cahoots.

[H2O Man]

57. Floride.

[LaurenG]

67. immuniza...nevermind.

:)

[H2O Man]

71. The Watusi.

Onion Soup.


(#9)

[madokie]

58. According to my research I found that if one is a drinker of alcohol

then coffee is good to flush the alcohol out of their system. I drank for 40 years and I drank coffee for that same amount of time and I have no liver problems and I believe that is the reason.

[Dorian Gray]

59. LOL

This OP and the following thread were good for a morning laugh for so many reasons.

a) The only legal drug? LOL

b) It'll kill you? LOL

c) The earnestness of delivery! LOL

d) Do your own research! LOL

[cbdo2007]

62. It's all about moderation. Just like water, pop, tea, juice, grains, sugar, meat.....

[Chris_Texas]

64. Coffee is our friend.

[pink-o]

65. Like I said in the other thread, you're gonna have to pry my latte cup from my cold, dead hand

I am an ovo-lacto vegetarian, 56 years old, no chronic health problems, run an 8 minute mile and pride myself on healthy eating.

I love coffee. I've been drinking it since I was 9 before parents figured out that giving caffeine to an already hyper-active little girl might not have been a great idea. But after all these years, the only bad effect is when I give it up and go through withdrawal. So I've solved that problem by never giving it up. :evilgrin:

But seriously, my only problem with coffee is the same problem I have with all cash crops grown in developing nations: it takes land and resources away from indigenous people who could be sustaining their own population, not working for paper money that barely gets them by. So I try to only buy Hawaiian coffee (been to Kona, they're not doing too badly there!) and only consume 2 or 3 cups a day.

Yeah, it makes you think better, it allows you to skimp on sleep, but I don't think most of us are serving up those mental resources to our corporate overlords! Lots of us write, play music, take beautiful photographs, invent new gadgets, et al. I don't think you can actually measure how much brain power goes to each task you perform on a daily basis.

[Edweird]

66. I'm not much for coffee but I'm a caffeine junkie. It alleviates migraines

and helps me be just a tad less antisocial.

[NeedleCast]

68. And this is the only drug allowed legal status by your corporate overloads.

I don't think it's possible for you to be more wrong about that.

Alcohol is legal.
Tobacco (along with all the byproducts put in it) is legal (sort of).
Over-the-Counter drugs are sold in hundreds of thousands of stores.

Don't let that stop your hyperbolic rant though. I'm sure that coffee (which humans have been consuming for many thousand years) is all just a plan by Evil Corporate Overlords(tm).

[nadinbrzezinski]

74. The ONLY legal drug?

You forgot tobacco and alcohol...