So---what will it take?

[Atticus]

What will be our collective breaking point; the last straw which, when added to the heap of compromises and lies and betrayals, finally gets a few million of us off our asses and into the streets?

Stolen elections?

War crimes committed in our names?

Torture?

Warrantless searches?

Wholesale disregard of our Constitutional rights?

WAR, WAR, WAR?

The shameless transfer of wealth from the poor to the obscenely wealthy?

Equating corporations with people?

Putting Tommy Chong and Martha Stewart in prison, but not Scooter, not W, not Cheney and not one CEO from Big Banking, Big Insurance or Big Energy?

Really---what in hell will it take for us to admit that the jig is up---that we no longer live in a democracy, the "rule of law" is a sad joke and the only way to change things lies outside the current system?

Corporations, as surrogates for the plutocrats that own and control them, own and control most of the media. And, because they also own and control most of "our" government, there are virtually no regulations to seriously impede their dissemination of whatever lie best serves their current purpose.

Corporations---by definition---exist solely to make a profit. Period. They do not have a conscience or a soul or a sense of patriotism, compassion or shame. They worship no god other than the bottom line.

Anc, corporations, ladies and gentlemen, own your ass and mine, just as surely as if we had been puchased at auction. To the extent that we are treated humanely, it is because that is "good business". After all, one doesn't want to damage one's property. Should our deaths or our suffering become more profitable, our "human rights" will evaporate like rain drops on a July afternoon.

And, so---in this season of "Joy to the World", I have only somber and somewhat desperate questions---

Who will stop them?

What will it take?

[Taverner]

1. It's become an Imperial Oligarchy

Not too different than the Soviet Union

Of course, the amazing thing is how long it had gone on before people realized it

So many think it couldn't happen in 'Murica

It took a while for Rome's conversion into a dictatorship was observed by all...I'm sure Caesar's followers were the Teabaggers of their time.

[Creative]

2. It will take people who stop complaining and start acting.

[Atticus]

3. Duplicate---computer problems. Please delete. see other completed post.

What will be our collective breaking point; the last straw which, when added to the heap of compromises and lies and betrayals, finally gets a few million of us off our asses and into the streers?

Stolen elections?

War crimes committed in our name?

Torture?

Warrantless searches?

Wholesale disregard of our Constitutional rights?

WAR, WAR, WAR?

The shameless transfer of wealth from the poor to the obsenely wealthy?

Equating corporations with people?

Putting Tommy Chong and Martha Stewart in prison, but not Scooter, or W, or Cheney or even one CEO from Big Banking, Big Insurance or Big Energy?l

What in hell will it take for us to admit that the jig is up---we don't live in a Democracy any longer, the "rule of law" is a sad joke and the only way to change things lies outside the current system?

Corporations, as surrogates for the plutocrats that own and control them, own and control most of the media. And, because they also own and control most of "our" government, there are virtually no regulations to seriously impede their dissemination of whatever propaganda they deem most expedient and profitable.

Corporations---by definition---exist solely to make a profit. Period. They do not have a conscience or a soul or a sense of patriotism, compassion or shame. They worship no god other than the bottom line.

And,corporations, ladies and gentlemen, own your ass and mine, as surely as though we had been purchased at auction. To the extent that we are treated humanely, it is only because that is "good business". After all, one doesn't damage one's property. If our death or our misery becomes more profitable, our "human rights" will evaporate like rain drops on a July afternoon.

As long as fools and whores are permitted to shout down our thinkers, our statesmen and our prophets, we have literally no chance of saving what was once the greatest and most just nation this small planet has ever known.

In this season of "Joy to the World", I ahe

[Lorien]

4. Turning off the television. nt

[Egnever]

7. Thats a great first step.

:applause:

[notesdev]

5. I've already come to terms with it

Godwin's law or not, this is already Nazi America. We can probably officially date it to the creation of DHS.

[ThomCat]

8. Yes. When we officially are a "homeland" then

shit ain't right anymore. :(

When a Democratic president increases how invasive "Homeland Security" can be, and has his DoJ holding peace activists in jail indefinitely without charges, and has a US citizen and whistle-blower being tortured in a military brig without being charged with any crime, and is adopting republican proposals left and right and blatantly giving our national wealth to the wealthy, then you know our nation is heading towards collapse.

History is going to see the end of the US empire, and Obama is not going to look nice place in his place in history. He will be one of the US presidents who not only let the empire fall apart but blindly helped the corporations loot the empire.

[Taverner]

6. It's become an Imperial Oligarchy

Not too different than the Soviet Union

Of course, the amazing thing is how long it had gone on before people realized it

So many think it couldn't happen in 'Murica

It took a while for Rome's conversion into a dictatorship was observed by all...I'm sure Caesar's followers were the Teabaggers of their time.

[jotsy]

9. Responded to David Swanson's post today with a lengthy answer.

It's taken too much already.

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