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Cowpunk Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:42 PM
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NE Speaker On Horrific Forced Birth: The Law Operated As Intended
Mike Flood, speaker of Nebraska's unicameral legislature, came on Omaha right-wing radio station KFAB to defend Nebraska's new abortion law after a story in the Omaha World-Herald highlighted tragic consequences of the new law for one Grand Island family:

Deaver had four months to go in her pregnancy when she lost most of the amniotic fluid that cushions the fetus and helps its development, she said in an interview Sunday.
Doctors told the Deavers the loss of fluid stopped the baby’s lung development and would lead to deformities of the head and limbs. Their baby was given less than a 10 percent chance of surviving delivery; less than a 2 percent chance of ever managing basic functions, like eating.
“The odds were awful,” Danielle Deaver said. “It just wasn’t there.”
But devastating as that blow had been, what followed turned out to be at least as excruciating.
The Deavers thought over the possibilities and made a decision. They didn’t want to continue putting their unborn baby through what they feared was agony, so they asked the doctors to induce labor early.
“We were seeking to have the inevitable happen,” Danielle Deaver said. “We in no way, shape or fashion were seeking an abortion.”
But they were soon told the Nebraska abortion law stood in their way.

(...)

Specialists at the University of Nebraska Medical Center and the couple’s primary care doctor in Hastings, Neb., agreed that they could risk their medical licenses and prison time if they did the procedure, so the Deavers were sent home to wait.

Danielle Deaver was told to watch for signs of infection, a potential complication of losing amniotic fluid. And she agonized every time she felt the baby move, knowing that the child no longer had any protection from the uterine muscles.
“I told Robb I don’t know what to pray for,” she recalled. “Do I pray for a miracle or do I pray that I get sick enough that we can end this?”
Deaver finally went into labor on her own on Dec. 7. The baby, named Elizabeth, was born the next day at 3 p.m., weighing 1 pound, 10 ounces.
The Deavers took turns holding her while she gasped for air. But her undeveloped lungs could not inflate and no ventilator could have made a difference.

Elizabeth was pronounced dead at 3:15 p.m. The Deavers cremated her and had a family service.

Recently they decided to speak out about their experience in the hope of making a difference for other families in similar situations. They have not decided whether to mount a legal challenge to the Nebraska law.
“We should have been able to make this decision,” Danielle Deaver said. “This was not about abortion or politics or anything. This was about two parents being able to make an excruciating decision."


You can listen to the interview http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/30300/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/30300/611/richmedia/Sen_Mike_Flood_03-08-11.mp3?CCOMRRMID=20930542&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=OMAHA-NE&NG_FORMAT=&NG_ID=&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=611&SERVER_NAME=www.kfab.com&SITE_ID=611&STATION_ID=KFAB-AM&TRACK=">here.

I'm sorry I don't have time to provide a transcript at this time. The bottom line is that Flood sees no reason to amend or make exceptions to the law based on reports of the Deaver family's ordeal.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:49 PM
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1. Can we pass a law that this baby's picture be placed on every hate filled piece if legislation
Edited on Tue Mar-08-11 01:49 PM by Vincardog
these scum try to pass?
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:57 PM
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2. So the fact is that this mother...
who was not only in emotional pain, was also put at risk of her own life because of this crap piece of legislation.

We must have protection from (primarily male) legislators who make rules like this. Talk about a death panel.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:00 PM
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3. Rethugs in MN. have just proposed this Law in our once fine state.
Edited on Tue Mar-08-11 02:01 PM by glinda
They make no exception for emotional duress at all nor rape or incest. I think MN. needs a recall.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:38 PM
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6. Luckily we've got Dayton to veto it if it ever gets that far
I'm a big Mark Dayton fan
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:36 PM
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10. If all that stands between us and such a law is one man, then it's only a matter of time.
If Minnesotans aren't ready to fight this shit, then we will lose.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:06 PM
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4. RIP Elizabeth
My heart aches for what her parents were forced to endure. Heartless motherfuckers in these states.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:31 PM
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5. Never accept the argument that these monsters are pro-life.
They are simply anti-choice, and that includes being anti-child as well as anti-woman.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:10 PM
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7. Don't call it "anti-choice," please
"Anti-abortion" is the correct term.

Oh, they're COMPLETELY pro-choice--just so long as your choice includes carrying it to term, even if it might kill you or it's going to die two hours after it's born.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:14 PM
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12. That IS anti-choice.

Logic dictates. If one is anti- ONE choice in favor of the ONLY other choice, then one is therefore anti-choice.

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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 10:40 AM
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15. Anti-abortion is a sympathetic term to the abortion opponents.
Yes, the choice of terms is politicized, but the RW politicized it.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:14 PM
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16. No anti-abortion is not the correct term.
The position is one in which the decision to make a private medical decision is removed from the individual. They are legislating the removal of an option from which a patient may choose. That is anti-choice.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 04:20 PM
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18. Then how about "anti-humanity"?
Or better, anti-life? There is nothing "pro-life" about a group of people who support the Iraq War, want to cut off every sort of assistance to pregnant women, mothers or children, and love the death penalty.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 05:15 PM
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20. Preaching to the choir
I will never refer to the anti-choice position as pro-life.

But I'm also not going to call them anti-abortion because it posits the opposite as being pro-abortion when it's about privacy rights and freedom to choose.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:29 PM
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9. exactly precisely
anti-choice, anti-child, anti-woman.

NOT pro-LIFE. They wanna eat up the poor and the planet until we're all living in a cesspool. They think they'll be called away to Heaven before the poor kids born today have to live with what they've done to the world. Pro-life my ass. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 05:14 PM
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8. K&R
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:11 PM
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11. Rage. Absolute, Unmitigated FUCKING RAGE.

That's all I feel towards the evil, ignorant bastards that force people to endure these nightmares out of nothing more than blind, vapid, selfish and utterly corrupt 'moralism'.


I hope that some of you anti-choice assholes are reading this so I can tell you in no uncertain terms that I hope you are faced with such horror one day, and then have to deal with the fruits of your fanaticism.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:32 PM
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13. Kick. (nt)
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Cowpunk Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 10:40 PM
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14. Notice The Complete Ignorance of the Radio Hosts
This is what we have to deal with here in Nebraska. Most people have no idea that when we talk about late term abortions, situations like the Deavers' are the norm, not the exception. They think the fetal pain law, like all abortion laws, is aimed at slutty young girls, not good Christian mommies like Mrs. Deaver. Speaker Flood seems to understand the reality, though. The nasty prick just doesn't give a shit.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:15 PM
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17. I really hope they decide to challenge the law.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 04:24 PM
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19. If men got pregnant, there would be abortions available at every convenience store.
Edited on Wed Mar-09-11 04:24 PM by hobbit709
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