Walker. Goose. Cooked.

[cali]

Gov. Scott Walker Has Lost The War
Mar. 4 2011 - 2:46 pm | 192,031 views | 7 recommendations | 298 comments
By RICK UNGAR

In what may be the result of one of the great political miscalculations of our time, Scott Walker’s popularity in his home state is fast going down the tubes.

A Rasmussen poll out today reveals that almost 60% of likely Wisconsin voters now disapprove of their aggressive governor’s performance, with 48% strongly disapproving.

While these numbers are clearly indicators of a strategy gone horribly wrong, there are some additional findings in the poll that I suspect deserve even greater attention.

It turns out that the state’s public school teachers are very popular with their fellow Badgers. With 77% of those polled holding a high opinion of their educators, it is not particularly surprising that only 32% among households with children in the public school system approve of the governor’s performance. Sixty-seven percent (67%) disapprove, including 54% who strongly disapprove.

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http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/03/04/gov-scott-walker-has-lost-the-war/

[spanone]

1. k&r...

[Oceansaway]

2. K&R...n/t

[cali]

3. lol. freepers, including rimjob freaking out over this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2685651/posts?q=1&;page=51

[AC_Mem]

6. Hahahahaa!

That just made my day a little brighter :)

Annette

[Jokinomx]

8. wow.... it is an amazing site... the lunacy of the people there

is astounding. I read a few of their posts and most can't believe the poll is correct.

They are so out of touch with reality they can't see past the end of their noses.

This segment of our population would set us back to the middle ages if we allowed them to completely take over. Their collective IQ can't be over 100.

idiots... just plain and simple idiots.

[Fuzz]

16. I don't believe the poll because it doesn't correspond to how I 'feel'.

I agree, they are idiots.

[peace frog]

43. HA! *Feel* away, dumbfucks

How's that working out for you? :popcorn:

[barbtries]

51. for some reason i feel as if i should admit this:

i never did believe gw's 90% approval ratings. just thought it had to be bullshit. 90% of this country could not possibly be that stupid. i put a little poll up on my blog and almost all 30 respondents agreed that gw was an idiot who had no business running a country. i figured my little blog poll was at least as reliable as what the media was selling at the time. this must have been around the beginning of the iraq war, following 9-11 the patriot act etc.

[tavalon]

24. Hey, we have our lunatic moments here, too, albeit, with better spelling

and proper grammar.

[Enthusiast]

34. They are true believers

of everything Limbaugh tells them.

[mwb970]

35. They didn't believe the polls saying Obama would beat McGrumpy either.

I remember a huge Freep thread just before the 2008 election based on "Who will win?". At the time, all polls, even Rasmussen, showed Obama up 10-12% in the popular vote and with a strong electoral lead. Nonetheless, every single one of hundreds of comments on the thread said that the polls were wrong and the crazy old man would win. Some said it would be close, some said it would be a landslide, but they were totally united in their certainty that Obama was toast.

This serves to highlight the three prime characteristics of modern "conservatives", regardless of the topic:

1. Strong opinions
2. Absolute certainty
3. Total ignorance

Always the wrong answer. Always.

[Rozlee]

42. Yeah, in one of Palin's FB comments, one delusional bimbo even said

that the election had been rigged since McInsane had won the popular vote and started a whole chain of further comments from other posters about how the lamestream media didn't even bother looking into this or demanding a recount. *Faceplant on the console* Now they're spiking the Koolaide.

[thereismore]

44. Hahaha, I like your 1-2-3. It is very true! nt

[NICO9000]

59. Yup - always wrong, but never in doubt!

[bobbolink]

62. I propose letting them have 1 or 2 two states,

leaving the US and forming their own country, and watching them self-destruct.

It could be the biggest lesson this country has had... and a necessary one.

[disillusioned73]

19. lol.. this one was great...

"Rasmussen is usually on our side, though. Normally I would call BS too, but with this, I don’t know..."

[rpannier]

26. At least fixitguy is not as delusional as the rest of the crowd

He acknowledges reality in this instance
I do applaud him for that

[disillusioned73]

45. That is why I enjoyed it so much,, the sense of disappoinment..

he's normally on "our" side... boo f'ing hoo!!

I love it!

[yellowcanine]

66. A freep moving from the denial to the "Oh shit!" mode.

[Enthusiast]

33. Teh stupid, it hurts....nt

[dorkulon]

36. "Rasmussen is usually on our side, though."

Amazing their contempt for the truth.

[yellowcanine]

67. Yes that one is just effing hysterical.

:rofl:

Rasmussen "usually on our side." So it is dawning on them that the numbers may in fact be much worse.
Almost painful to watch the light bulbs going off in their tiny brains. Actually - not that painful.

[kenfrequed]

52. Where were they?

Where were the freepers during the 8 years of bush.

[treestar]

53. Even Faux is against them!

"The media, including Fox, which I've called them on, keep repeating that it's union busting and taking away all collective bargaining! Bullshit!!!!
The collective bargaining for benefits and pension is being taken away. They, the unions, can still collective bargain for their wages!

Why won't the media, including Faux News report it properly?!!!! "

[The Backlash Cometh]

55. We have lost the Republic!

One can only hope. What shocks me is that a lot of these people don't even live in Wisc. I'm guessing that they were using Wisc. as a test site.

[midnight]

69. You would be correct.... They tested welfare to work here compliments of

Tommy "chip me" Thompson....

[Monk06]

61. When I was growing up people I knew who visited the US always decribed Americans

the same way. They were a generous and friendly people.

Freepers are not Americans if that is the standard you go
by. They are mean, barely able to control their violent
fantasies of the destruction of America by leftist traitors.

They openly advocate a civil war which they see as imminent
and unavoidable. These are end time fanatics and nihilists
whose only wish is to settle their petty scores with those
of their among them who actually care about the poor, sick
and the elderly.

Right now they're just PC commandos but they are just iching
to go pick up their guns and go 'hot'

Hopefully Wisconsin is their Waterloo.

[Initech]

64. What planet do they live on??

[yellowcanine]

65. Some of the freeps are in serious denial.....

"this is just completely unbelievable. There is something wrong with those numbers."

[bluestateguy]

4. 43% approval in a Rasmussen poll

Imagine what the real polls say.

[workinclasszero]

47. LOL For real!!! nt

[Greg K]

5. Gee, what happened to the "Will of the People" we heard so much about last year? nt

[FiveGoodMen]

7. Well, since corporations are now "people"...

[louis-t]

9. Walker. Hand. Overplayed. This is fun.

All of these repug governors that Koch brothers bought are doing the same things. They are portraying themselves as heros for making "tough choices". Only the teabaggers are impressed.

[AlbertCat]

48. This is fun.

The very public fail of Walker, with other fails.... PLUS any successes of the GOP to get their disastrous policies thru... will be interesting come next election. There will be all the failures and unpopularity to remember and show layered with how crappy things will obviously be in the states the GOP got a strangle hold on. All you'll have to ask those states that passed all this crap is, "Is your budget fixed? Even a little?"

[Kingofalldems]

10. K and R

[Kennah]

11. He shall take full responsibility for apologizing to Lord Koch

[Blue Owl]

12. Goddamned right his goose is cooked

If Walker succeeded in his little stunt, America would be in DEEP, DEEP, DEEP shit.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

I LOVE WISCONSIN!

[foxfeet]

13. Well, he's certainly as full of shit as a Christmas goose.

[WinkyDink]

14. Believed when seen.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. "David, this is Scott - please give me a call"

"I'm in trouble, daddy".

[tallahasseedem]

17. I hope that this will...

spread fast and furious throughout the country. I hate to use a teabagger term, but "We Want Our Country BACK!"

[undeterred]

18. I heard he said that he didn't know who was in charge

of the 14 Democrats and that he insinuated that Obama was controlling things. I wouldn't be surprised if there's been a phone call but no way would I believe that the idea for the 14 Democratic senators to leave came from outside the group of Senators. And since Senator Miller, who is the minority leader, reached out to Walker and asked for a meeting, I think its pretty obvious who is in charge. Walkers response to him is an arrogant slap in the face.

Senator Mark Miller is a former Air National Guard pilot whose mother was in State Government. He is a committed environmentalist, very intelligent, and soft spoken. He's about as far from Walker as you can get in terms of personality, very humble.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/02/wisconsin-state-senator-mark-miller-calls-governor-scott-walkers-budget-tactics-insulting-asks-for-r.html

[Eko]

20. Rasmussen poll?

60% plus 48%= 108%. How is that possible?

[Exultant Democracy]

22. 60% disapprove 48% strongly disapprove. The 48 is part of the 60. n/t

[Eko]

23. Sorry

Duh, jumped the gun a bit didn't I. I seem to be having a Id 10 T problem.
Eko.

[live love laugh]

21. Wisconsin has some of the best public schools in the country. nt

[CLANG]

56. Fucker wants to cut 74 MILLION from Milwaukee Public Schools!

That comes out to a couple mill per school. The schools can't operate without that money!

[glinda]

25. Even if he looses this battle he will sneak around to get the Koch's what they want. He must go now.

[byronius]

27. May we all give thanks to Ian Murphy, American Hero.

Dude changed EVERYTHING. A modern Thomas Paine.

[deacon]

28. The entire GOP is bleeding voters at breakneck speed. n/t

[djean111]

29. How is his goose cooked?

There is no way to get him out of there until next year, and he is free to inflict his views - which, evidently, a lot of voters agreed with - until at least 2012, if there is a recall for him. By then, the public utilities may be sold off, public education eviscerated, environmental safeguards disappeared, the pension fund distributed to corporate interests, rape may actually not even be a crime - he is not taking the long view, he is inflicting the most shit in the shortest time possible. He is not trying to win a popularity contest at this point in time.

And look how many people hate the mandate and want single payer - and how irrelevant that is? Any more, polls just tell me that it doesn't matter what the polls say, they just underscore that the government and the people are on different planets.

I doubt he really cares about re-election at this point - either he has a set list to accomplish, or the Koch brothers have assured him that they will ensure the next election or else a soft landing if he gets recalled or whatever.
For starters, though - recalling senators - better try to arrange paper ballots, public counting, and a LOT of volunteers at the polls, to watch what happens. And three times more signatures than are required - you think there is not a group scheming how to invalidate signatures or results right now?

Can he ram through a dictate that he cannot be recalled? Because lately it seems that "Constitution" means the same thing as "morning constitutional". Or maybe something that is used to clean oneself off after the morning ritual.

Don't want to come off as uber-cynical and saying why bother, just pointing out that his recipe for cooked goose likely is quite different than ours.

Sadly, the tea party governors illustrate a pet theory of mine - like that whip-wielding guy who was threatening Indiana Jones, (reversing the good guy - bad guy thing here) all the elaborate whip cracking in the world is beat by a gun that you forgot about - in this case, he may just pass something that nullifies the dem senators, and proceed on his merry way.
Stupid people get a lot accomplished because the smart ones are theorizing and taking polls - like Bush just doing shit while everyone is saying oh no he wouldn't.

Fait accompli beats polls every time. Best be thinking about how to undo things; Walker's unpopularity in the polls in meaningless at this point. By the time the next election rolls around, Wisconsin may be a smoking ruin. And/or Walker may be running for president.

[tblue37]

37. The guy who beat Indiana Jones didn't have a whip. Indiana was the

guy with the whip in most cases, though he didn't have a whip in that scene. That time he was faced with a Ninja martial arts guy who was doing all the fancy aaaayyyyy-yaaaaah hand and foot movements threatening him when Indiana just pulled out his gun and shot him.

I read later that Harrison Ford was sick that day, and the gun thing was an adlib, just to get the scene over with because he felt so bad.

[thereismore]

46. He lost this fight. He is now negotiating. The recall signature campaign is on. That's how. nt

[99th_Monkey]

30. What a freaking trip

Where's that recall petition? Seriously.

[99th_Monkey]

31. This is WANTING to happen n/t

[Enthusiast]

32. Encouraging.

I would like to think Kasich enjoys similar popularity.

[Overseas]

38. Sure hope so. Glad the truth about his tax cutting and then crying about deficits is being exposed.

Loved Rachel Maddow's segment last night -- It's Not About The Budget!

It's about making the poor and middle class as uncomfortable as possible so they'll be too discouraged to vote in 2012.

Smash the Democrats by crushing the unions who support them -- that's the motivation.

So sad that corporate funding is so strong as to get the Democrats to roll over so much.

[Stuart G]

39. k & r

[DirkGently]

40. The unions shouldn't compromise with him. Make him back down & walk away flat. Smash him.

[Javaman]

41. Miscalculation or a distraction...

Michigan is now pushing bill to allow the governor to declare local municipalities economic emergencies which will then allow the governor to install his own little "fixers" to take over the running of that same local municipality.

Idaho just passed a bill that does away with collective bargaining.

Ohio just passed a bill that does away with collective bargaining.

While the good people of Wisconsin fight for their union rights, other states are destroying them lock stock and barrel.

As are 13 other states.

asshole walker is now open to "concessions", whatever. This whole bait and switch being done by the corporations in Wisconsin has been daftly orchestrated to distract us all.

while we may win this battle in Wisconsin, we are losing the over all war.

Where is Obama, "I will walk on the picket lines with you", in all of this?

We are dying as a nation and slipping further and further into a complete corporcracy or fascism (take your pick).

I predict within 10 years one of two things will happen.

1) we either stand up for our rights and push back. (riots, minor skirmishes)

2) roll over and take the full pummeling of corporations dissolving any worker rights and constitutional rights we have left.

The US will effectively be able to complete with third world counties at that point, because we will have become one ourselves.

In 50 years we will have something closely resembling a quasi-socialistic-democracy. Why? because between 10 years and 50 years from now, the people of this nation will have been beaten down so far, that they only way will be up and have nothing to lose by dying.

the corporations, our store bought supreme court, our GQ presidents and our hand wringing congress all were players, actors and willing puppets in this.

The Kenyans have a great saying, "when two elephants fight, only the grass suffers".

The elephants are fighting. Let me tell you something, we the people are not one of those elephants.

[AlbertCat]

49. The Kenyans have a great saying, "when two elephants fight, only the grass suffers".

Hey.... did ya get that from Obama.... something he learned as a child???


:sarcasm: (a joke!)


Maybe things will be so bad by 2012 the Teabaggers will be out of the picture.

But I thought the GOP would be a laughing stock after Bush/Cheney made things so bad that....

I was wrong then.

All I know is, because of Reagan & Bush.... things will suck for the rest of my life.

[Javaman]

50. ray-gun was a half wit...

yet the right praises him and his complete pancake of an economic policy as the best thing since sliced bread.

In 20 years, expect the same for the moron son* and crashcart.

[Corruption Winz]

54. So.. Walker's chances of reelection aren't high, huh?

Shocking. Ha. That being said, I'm surprised ANY percentage of parents would side with this guy.

Pathetic.

[Taverner]

57. At this point we should be talking RECALL

Let's RECALL the Gov and all of the Wisconsin Republicans!

Send 'em packing

[Corruption Winz]

58. You need a signature, you let me know..

You need someone to hold the sign, I have the hands for the job. Somehow, I think these douche bags find a way out of this. The slippery always seem to.

[chaska]

60. Great, but remember, Republicans always "fail up".

[fishwax]

63. great news, but, alas, a lot can change between now and a potential recall

Pressure On, Wisconsin!

:kick:

[sonias]

68. Great

Pass some of side dishes so we can all feast! :woohoo:

Yea for the popularity of teachers and to the greatest miscalculation ever!

:toast:

I love teachers and unions - the best America has to offer! :loveya: